Nancy: I don't like it when they make nice, brave superheroes dark and mean! The world has ENOUGH dark and mean! I go to comic books for "NICE" and BRAVE"!
Not all parts of the Bible are nice. Cities destroyed with God based conquerors killing people,venegful God,hidieous looking angels. Read it carefully.
Been reading comics for 50 years. Sometime in the past 15 to 20 years, the shift has been to make superheroes more flawed and less noble. Thus the trend toward mean and dark. I do know that some people like to take those they think are better than they are down a notch or two. It’s easier than trying to make yourself better and more moral.
I’m with the majority on this. The comics I was reading when I was a kid knew that Batman and Superman were close friends. I didn’t go to the last Superman movie because I heard how a city was destroyed and people died during his fight. Superman did not do that. It’s also why I will not subsidize the Batman vs Superman movie.
I think Superman reached its peak during “Lois and Clark.” Everything since has been downhill.
The trend toward darkness in the heroes was a ploy to keep the comics selling. Folks (the publishers thought) were tired of the “big blue boy scout”. They may have been right about adolescent boys (at whom the comics were aimed), but we adults got more and more disgusted with the trend. I have an extensive comic book collection, but stopped collecting around the year 2000 due to this trend. Funny thing was that I was spending upwards of $40 per week on comics, and prices have only gone up since then. What adolescent boy can match that?Gil has it right. I choose my entertainment carefully, and “nice” and “brave” are what I look for, not “dark” and “real”.
They’re not really comic books any more, more like graphic novels. As for Star Trek, it was, from Day One, a metaphor of the current situation with cheesy special effects. Remember “Let that be your last battlefield” with Frank Gorshin. As it spun off more series, it actually became better and better.
Argythree over 8 years ago
I’m with you, Nancy!
atomicdog over 8 years ago
I guess Nancy doesn’t read Batman.Or Wolverine.
blunebottle over 8 years ago
She’s reading Superman. He’s not what I’d call dark. At least in the early years.
E. Cobb over 8 years ago
This may also be a reference to the “Superman vs Batman” movie. And I’m in 100% agreement with Nancy, too.
Alexander Batey over 8 years ago
Not all parts of the Bible are nice. Cities destroyed with God based conquerors killing people,venegful God,hidieous looking angels. Read it carefully.
carlosrivers over 8 years ago
…then don’t read it…
546mailbox over 8 years ago
Been reading comics for 50 years. Sometime in the past 15 to 20 years, the shift has been to make superheroes more flawed and less noble. Thus the trend toward mean and dark. I do know that some people like to take those they think are better than they are down a notch or two. It’s easier than trying to make yourself better and more moral.
Max Starman Jones over 8 years ago
I’m with the majority on this. The comics I was reading when I was a kid knew that Batman and Superman were close friends. I didn’t go to the last Superman movie because I heard how a city was destroyed and people died during his fight. Superman did not do that. It’s also why I will not subsidize the Batman vs Superman movie.
I think Superman reached its peak during “Lois and Clark.” Everything since has been downhill.
Thomas Scott Roberts creator over 8 years ago
Sorry Nancy. The fanboys have taken comics away from kids, and kept them for themselves. They’re not sorry. either. Guess you lose.
jrankin1959 over 8 years ago
Preach it, sister! I went through the same thing with the later incarnations of Star Trek. (Who wants a future that looks like today?)
atomicdog over 8 years ago
I like flawed characters who do the right thing in spite of their flaws.
atomicdog over 8 years ago
No matter how dark Superman gets, there is always someone darker:
https://youtu.be/iTECNKpZAM4
Donnie Pitchford Premium Member over 8 years ago
I agree with Nancy!
JanLC over 8 years ago
The trend toward darkness in the heroes was a ploy to keep the comics selling. Folks (the publishers thought) were tired of the “big blue boy scout”. They may have been right about adolescent boys (at whom the comics were aimed), but we adults got more and more disgusted with the trend. I have an extensive comic book collection, but stopped collecting around the year 2000 due to this trend. Funny thing was that I was spending upwards of $40 per week on comics, and prices have only gone up since then. What adolescent boy can match that?Gil has it right. I choose my entertainment carefully, and “nice” and “brave” are what I look for, not “dark” and “real”.
kaffekup over 8 years ago
They’re not really comic books any more, more like graphic novels. As for Star Trek, it was, from Day One, a metaphor of the current situation with cheesy special effects. Remember “Let that be your last battlefield” with Frank Gorshin. As it spun off more series, it actually became better and better.
artheaded1 over 8 years ago
I’m with you, Nancy!
chilljw1 over 8 years ago
agreed
Uncle Bob over 8 years ago
I mean they even killed off Archie Andrews, for heaven’s sake!
nailer Premium Member over 8 years ago
You want dark and mean? Give it a look at the original fairy tales by the Brothers Grimm, Perrault or Andersen. Very gory stuff.