Kinda fun to notice how much C&H artwork evolved over the years…
Hobbes originally had black pads on his front feet/hands. Bill decided he didn’t like them and soon dropped them. Hobbes also grew alot taller in a short time…
Calvin, you should have said MAY I. Hobbes would know better. Isn’t that right, Hobbes? I’ll bet you even have a clever rejoinder. I’m counting on it.
BTW, I know an English teacher who is a stickler for may I instead of can I when someone wants to go to the bathroom.
Hi Hobbes,
“Having confidence in your obedience I wrote unto you, knowing that you will also do more than I say.” Philemon 21 (but not more than I wanted) :o)
Speaking of may, I searched for “You May Think” by the Cars this morning and of course it was “You Might Think”, which is wryly amusing because I am often annoyed that may is almost always used instead of might these days. Generally, I think might is better in this context and may is better in the can vs. may context.
It does seem that English, or “American”, has devolved to the point that clarity of meaning is no longer necessary when communicating; instead of making a clear statement we have to continually explain ourselves to those who don’t “get it”. Oh well, the more I rant and rail against poor grammar the more isolated I become.
wizodd: I believe another version of this philosophy is, ” it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.”
When my students ask “Can I go to the bathroom?” I reply with, “I’m not medically qualified to make that determination.”
It doesn’t take most very long to learn… :>)
Hobbes, even more persnickety was the rule for using “will” and “shall”–as I learned it, “The rule is… to express a future event without emotional overtones, one should say I shall, we shall, but you/he/she/they will; conversely, for emphasis, willfulness, or insistence, one should say I/we will, but you/he/she/they shall.” (John Wallis, 1653)
I doubt very many people bother to make that distinction.
“Yet I have left me 7,000 in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which has not kissed him.” I Kings 19:18 (and I’m one of them)
BTW, apparently you don’t object to split infinitives. :o)
JAMEJO, add to that the fact that no one is listening to what the other person is saying because they are too busy getting ready to say what they are going to say next.
I’ve also noticed that the English that is used behind the fast-food counters has been devolving in recent years, from
“Can I help the next person in line?”
to
“Next person in line?” or “Can I help you?”
to
“Can I help whoever is next?”
to
“Can I help who’s next?”
to
“Can I help you next?”
to
“C’nelp younext?”
Many English teachers used to stand at the front of the line and refuse to order their food until the person behind the counter properly said, “May I please help the next person who is waiting in the line?”
But, from what I understand, there are now very few of those teachers left, since most have died of starvation. You know, natural selection and all that.
On Saturday we reached the final strip before Bill Watterson went on his 9-month sabbatical in 1991. At that point the syndicate began early reruns from 1985, so now we are back at the beginning of Calvin and Hobbes.
HALP! I’ve been collecting paper copies of C&H and, recently, decided to tape them into a notbook. One of them, a Sunday edition dated Nov. 19, had the punchline panel, along with the preceding panel torn out and I’d like to know the punch line. I’ve been looking at the backdated Sunday editions of C&H in GoComics and I’ve gotten as far back as 2007 (they begin in the 1980s) and I can’t find this particular one, although a few are repeated.
Let me describe it to see if an “expert” can tell me where in GoComics it may be found: It has many panels, with no dialague: Calvin’s mom is letting him out the door while anxiously looking at her watch; Calvin’s running at top speed. When he see Susie he suddenly realizes something; meanwhile, back home, Calvin’s mom sees that he forgot his paperbag lunch. Calvin is shocked to realize that he’s forgotten his lunch; Susie looks at C; Calvin runs home; his mom runs with the lunch; C takes a shortcut over a picket fence thus missing his mom running to the busstop, C at home sees his lunch isn’t where he left it. C’s mom, at the busstop is told by Susie that C ran home. C’s mom meets C and hands him his lunch only to see that the schoolbus has departed; she yells at C and puts C in her car to drive him to school. At school C runs to the locker where Susie is. C’s mom closes her front door and the next 2 panels are missing. The final 2 panels must be great - please somebody help me!
comicgos over 13 years ago
You’re quick Calvin - she’s just quicker!
Vista Bill Raley and Comet™ over 13 years ago
Day Two! I’m enjoying these oldies!
rentier over 13 years ago
Cookie…..mh, mh……!
margueritem over 13 years ago
She’s too quick for you, Clavin!
pouncingtiger over 13 years ago
Mom probably tried that trick, or something like it, when she was Calvin’s age.
MontanaLady over 13 years ago
No, Calvin
PetrusS over 13 years ago
It was worth a shot! Maybe next time shout some less extraordinary suggestions before you ask for cookies…
GrimmaTheNome over 13 years ago
Its when she says, ‘go ahead, ride on the roof’ that he should worry.
COWBOY7 over 13 years ago
Too predictable with certain things, Calvin.
G’Morning, Mike, Grog & Marg!
Yukoner over 13 years ago
Hey, it was a try. After all, no harm, no foul.
lazygrazer over 13 years ago
Kinda fun to notice how much C&H artwork evolved over the years…
Hobbes originally had black pads on his front feet/hands. Bill decided he didn’t like them and soon dropped them. Hobbes also grew alot taller in a short time…
yuvrajhanspal over 13 years ago
COME TO THE DARK SIDE!! We have COOKIES!!!
Elaine Rosco Premium Member over 13 years ago
Mom knows you all to well Calvin…next time try puppy dog eyes, that might work…lol
GROG Premium Member over 13 years ago
With Calvin, I doubt there’s a question he can pose that Mom can reasonably say “yes” to.
Good Morning, Marg, Mike & ♠Lonewolf♠
zero over 13 years ago
@grazer - But I think Mom was much cuter in that(^ today’s ) era…
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
Here is a “Pearls Before Swine” parallel for today’s strip:
PearlsBeforeSwine_April2011
Rat was more successful than Calvin.
(Mr. Ed: Thanks for the HTML formatting tip for Web links.)
Puddleglum2 over 13 years ago
Calvin, you should have said MAY I. Hobbes would know better. Isn’t that right, Hobbes? I’ll bet you even have a clever rejoinder. I’m counting on it. BTW, I know an English teacher who is a stickler for may I instead of can I when someone wants to go to the bathroom.
lewisbower over 13 years ago
“Sure Calvin, and while you’re up there, clean the gutters.”
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
Hi Puddleglum2
What does the teacher require them to say? I’m guessing it’s “May I go to the can?”
May I give my linguistic opinion, if I can?
“May I” is an example of trying to decide where to compromise between being an English purist and giving in to the evolution of the language.
Over the years, I’ve observed that when people place their orders at fast food restaurants, the language has evolved from
“May I please have….” to “I would like….” to “Can I have……” to “Kin I git…..” or simply, “Gimme a…..”
In that context, giving in on the “may vs. can” debate doesn’t seem all that bad.
– Hobbes
Wiseguy411 over 13 years ago
Not so much that she’s on to you Calvin, more likely she’s been there - done that.
It was amusing to watch my children go through the process. They did not quite figure out that we had so many (time shifted) shared experiences.
Puddleglum2 over 13 years ago
Hi Hobbes, “Having confidence in your obedience I wrote unto you, knowing that you will also do more than I say.” Philemon 21 (but not more than I wanted) :o)
Speaking of may, I searched for “You May Think” by the Cars this morning and of course it was “You Might Think”, which is wryly amusing because I am often annoyed that may is almost always used instead of might these days. Generally, I think might is better in this context and may is better in the can vs. may context.
twj0729 over 13 years ago
Love Mom’s look, third panel!
Wiseguy411 over 13 years ago
Puddlegum.
are you saying that might is right ???
(LOL)
jonathan.james over 13 years ago
It does seem that English, or “American”, has devolved to the point that clarity of meaning is no longer necessary when communicating; instead of making a clear statement we have to continually explain ourselves to those who don’t “get it”. Oh well, the more I rant and rail against poor grammar the more isolated I become.
rajdking over 13 years ago
Hey Calvin! Its very hot today. Leav the cookies to mom. Lets go out n have some chilled beer :).
Call Hobbs too.
Fogger_man over 13 years ago
wizodd: I believe another version of this philosophy is, ” it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.”
When my students ask “Can I go to the bathroom?” I reply with, “I’m not medically qualified to make that determination.” It doesn’t take most very long to learn… :>)
cleokaya over 13 years ago
Time to learn the fine art of baking your own cookies.
kab2rb over 13 years ago
Nice try Calvin get the worst over the to the source.
runninanreadin over 13 years ago
I found that if you DON’T ask, the answer is AUTOMATICALLY ‘no’…soooooo, you might as well ask, huh? lol
bmonk over 13 years ago
Hobbes, even more persnickety was the rule for using “will” and “shall”–as I learned it, “The rule is… to express a future event without emotional overtones, one should say I shall, we shall, but you/he/she/they will; conversely, for emphasis, willfulness, or insistence, one should say I/we will, but you/he/she/they shall.” (John Wallis, 1653)
I doubt very many people bother to make that distinction.
ratlum over 13 years ago
As long as there is cookies there is a challenge and Calvin will win some how.
Puddleglum2 over 13 years ago
Wiseguy411, I might, if I may, but if I may not, I will/shall need might to overcome the lack of permission.
Puddleglum2 over 13 years ago
Fogger_man, That English teacher I mentioned earlier used to say “I don’t know whether you can or not, but I’m not going to help you”.
Puddleglum2 over 13 years ago
JAMEJO said, …the more isolated I become.
“Yet I have left me 7,000 in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which has not kissed him.” I Kings 19:18 (and I’m one of them) BTW, apparently you don’t object to split infinitives. :o)
gofinsc over 13 years ago
JAMEJO, add to that the fact that no one is listening to what the other person is saying because they are too busy getting ready to say what they are going to say next.
dvoyack over 13 years ago
Nice try but next time ask if you can have a beer instead, it might work.
pejackso over 13 years ago
Anybody know what happened to Watterson? Calvin doesn’t look like Calvin anymore and none of the strips are funny.
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
Hi JAMEJO
I’ve also noticed that the English that is used behind the fast-food counters has been devolving in recent years, from
“Can I help the next person in line?” to “Next person in line?” or “Can I help you?” to “Can I help whoever is next?” to “Can I help who’s next?” to “Can I help you next?” to “C’nelp younext?”
Many English teachers used to stand at the front of the line and refuse to order their food until the person behind the counter properly said, “May I please help the next person who is waiting in the line?”
But, from what I understand, there are now very few of those teachers left, since most have died of starvation. You know, natural selection and all that.
–Hobbes
Scrubb over 13 years ago
x
LeStats over 13 years ago
I hope Calvin remembers her on mothers day, she deserves it!
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
SUSAN NEWMAN:
On Saturday we reached the final strip before Bill Watterson went on his 9-month sabbatical in 1991. At that point the syndicate began early reruns from 1985, so now we are back at the beginning of Calvin and Hobbes.
khpage over 13 years ago
Calvin should have a training session with his lawyer, Hobbes because his mother is about a light year ahead of him…
arye uygur over 13 years ago
HALP! I’ve been collecting paper copies of C&H and, recently, decided to tape them into a notbook. One of them, a Sunday edition dated Nov. 19, had the punchline panel, along with the preceding panel torn out and I’d like to know the punch line. I’ve been looking at the backdated Sunday editions of C&H in GoComics and I’ve gotten as far back as 2007 (they begin in the 1980s) and I can’t find this particular one, although a few are repeated.
Let me describe it to see if an “expert” can tell me where in GoComics it may be found: It has many panels, with no dialague: Calvin’s mom is letting him out the door while anxiously looking at her watch; Calvin’s running at top speed. When he see Susie he suddenly realizes something; meanwhile, back home, Calvin’s mom sees that he forgot his paperbag lunch. Calvin is shocked to realize that he’s forgotten his lunch; Susie looks at C; Calvin runs home; his mom runs with the lunch; C takes a shortcut over a picket fence thus missing his mom running to the busstop, C at home sees his lunch isn’t where he left it. C’s mom, at the busstop is told by Susie that C ran home. C’s mom meets C and hands him his lunch only to see that the schoolbus has departed; she yells at C and puts C in her car to drive him to school. At school C runs to the locker where Susie is. C’s mom closes her front door and the next 2 panels are missing. The final 2 panels must be great - please somebody help me!
Fogger_man over 13 years ago
Puddleglum2:
One of my favorites is, “Take your time going, but hurry back!” … don’t think about it too hard… :>)
Llywus over 13 years ago
Trivia time: what were Hobbe’s first words in the strip?
dahawk over 13 years ago
May I add this to the word debate?
I shall!
They’s more than one way to say things!
See, I can.
Will I get posts correcting my grammar?
bmonk over 13 years ago
Were Hobbes’ first words either, “No thanks, I’m full,” or, “We’re kind of stupid that way”?
Midgrid over 13 years ago
Ayre Uygur - it is a great ending! The strip you’re looking for is from September 24, 1994.
(Edited to remove spoiler.)
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
Testing……….Testing………..Testing………..
FerBurger over 13 years ago
The origin of Hobbes . . .
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
What happened to all the commas?
JP Steve Premium Member over 13 years ago
Interesting… you can only see the comments if you’re not signed in?
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
And the blank lines?
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
And the italics?
Hobbes Premium Member over 13 years ago
And the ability to edit previous comments? (Poor Dogsniff…..)
hihigirl over 13 years ago
Are those HOMEMADE COOKIIIIEEEES!!!!?? I LOVE homemade cookies!! :D
Larry da crocodile almost 4 years ago
I have seen this 3 times now in calvin and hobbs. they must be repeating.