just curious, but when you attend Catholic school, do they pray at the beginning of each school day (similar to U.S. schools doing the Pledge of Allegiance at homeroom)?
Engel vs Vitale forbade official prayer in public schools, not pupils from praying quietly. Ramming prayer down the throats of public school children is unconstitutional. The only time I went to public school until Penn State, I had to get used to no official prayer.
Haven’t read all the comments yet, so I’m probably repeating, but praying in school was never banned and is allowed to this day. What is not allowed is school-led prayer. And it never was officially — it’s just that many school districts ignored the constitution when it suited them.
As for student prayers, my favorite has always been:
Now I lay me down to rest; I pray I pass tomorrow’s test; If I should die before I wake; That’s one less test I have to take.
Prayer isn’t banned. The teacher leading the whole class in prayer isn’t allowed because not everyone holds the same religious beliefs, and some don’t believe in any religion at all! Anyone can still carry a bible, and pray in school as long as it is on their own time. This perpetuated fallacy is so ridiculous.
“The U.S. Supreme Court banned school-sponsored prayer in public schools in a 1962 decision, saying that it violated the First Amendment. But students are allowed to meet and pray on school grounds as long as they do so privately and don’t try to force others to do the same”
Prayer is not and never has been banned in schools. The Supreme Court merely said public schools can’t MAKE kids pray. The children are, and always have been, free to pray on their own. Kids can choose to pray, teachers can’t tell them to pray. On the same note, teachers can’t tell them NOT to pray. I don’t understand why so many Americans have trouble grasping this incredibly simple rule.
Clever. Praying in school has never been banned. Just organized prayer. If you want your kid to pray in school and didn’t teach them how, that’s your failing as a parent.
Praying in school was never banned. Adult-led praying in school is what is forbidden. If the kids do it on their own or even as an organized group it is okay as long as it is not adult (teacher) led.
marilynnbyerly over 3 years ago
There are no atheists in space or in school rooms.
Templo S.U.D. over 3 years ago
just curious, but when you attend Catholic school, do they pray at the beginning of each school day (similar to U.S. schools doing the Pledge of Allegiance at homeroom)?
frequency270 over 3 years ago
Praying in school had been banned as early as ’74? I thought it was more of an 80s or 90s thing.
oddhumor over 3 years ago
As long as there are tests in schools, there will be prayer in schools.
Lightpainter over 3 years ago
You aren’t fooling anyone, PP.
Scorpio Premium Member over 3 years ago
There is prayer and then there is PRAYING!!!
littlejohn Premium Member over 3 years ago
If one believes, there are prayers one can use before starting and finishing any and all things.
knutdl over 3 years ago
“And your money says in God we trust, But it’s against the law to pray in school;”
hariseldon59 over 3 years ago
Only organized school prayers are banned. Private, preferably silent prayers are allowed.
Trond Sätre Premium Member over 3 years ago
The need for spontaneous prayer will always be there
jagedlo over 3 years ago
And of course, when she gets home in the evening, she’ll forget all about that prayer and won’t do any studying at all!
Purple People Eater over 3 years ago
As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in school.
VegaAlopex over 3 years ago
Engel vs Vitale forbade official prayer in public schools, not pupils from praying quietly. Ramming prayer down the throats of public school children is unconstitutional. The only time I went to public school until Penn State, I had to get used to no official prayer.
cdward over 3 years ago
Haven’t read all the comments yet, so I’m probably repeating, but praying in school was never banned and is allowed to this day. What is not allowed is school-led prayer. And it never was officially — it’s just that many school districts ignored the constitution when it suited them.
As for student prayers, my favorite has always been:
Now I lay me down to rest; I pray I pass tomorrow’s test; If I should die before I wake; That’s one less test I have to take.
Decepticomic over 3 years ago
Dear god, please blow up the school so that I don’t have to do homework. It’s fine, I used a lowercase ‘g’.
Ellis97 over 3 years ago
You can pray all the time in catholic school.
Twelve Badgers in a Suit Premium Member over 3 years ago
Only compulsory praying. This is totally voluntary, at least on Patty’s part. It remains to be seen how God feels about it.
tripwire45 over 3 years ago
Exactly. I miss Schulz.
Otis Rufus Driftwood over 3 years ago
Peppermint Patty has a point in the last panel.
Wizard of Ahz-no relation over 3 years ago
which politician said “There will always be prayer in school as long as there are tests”
Joker05 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Prayer isn’t banned. The teacher leading the whole class in prayer isn’t allowed because not everyone holds the same religious beliefs, and some don’t believe in any religion at all! Anyone can still carry a bible, and pray in school as long as it is on their own time. This perpetuated fallacy is so ridiculous.
verticallychallenged Premium Member over 3 years ago
AYYYYYYY-MEN!
Nyckname over 3 years ago
“As long as there are history tests, there will be prayer in public schools.” ~ Skyler
Thinkingblade over 3 years ago
Indeed that sort of prayer still is … even in grad school.
KEA over 3 years ago
Praying was NEVER banned in schools – only compulsory religious behavior imposed by the school authorities,
ronaldspence over 3 years ago
“The U.S. Supreme Court banned school-sponsored prayer in public schools in a 1962 decision, saying that it violated the First Amendment. But students are allowed to meet and pray on school grounds as long as they do so privately and don’t try to force others to do the same”
DCBakerEsq over 3 years ago
There are no atheists in foxholes. Or elementary school.
notinksanymore over 3 years ago
Prayer is not and never has been banned in schools. The Supreme Court merely said public schools can’t MAKE kids pray. The children are, and always have been, free to pray on their own. Kids can choose to pray, teachers can’t tell them to pray. On the same note, teachers can’t tell them NOT to pray. I don’t understand why so many Americans have trouble grasping this incredibly simple rule.
kaycstamper over 3 years ago
They can never ban praying. Maybe they can’t teach/lead us in it, but neither can they stop us from praying!
jkn1027 over 3 years ago
Clever. Praying in school has never been banned. Just organized prayer. If you want your kid to pray in school and didn’t teach them how, that’s your failing as a parent.
Jan C over 3 years ago
Praying in school was never banned. Adult-led praying in school is what is forbidden. If the kids do it on their own or even as an organized group it is okay as long as it is not adult (teacher) led.
knight1192a over 3 years ago
So true
ChukLitl Premium Member over 3 years ago
Get it right; neither establish nor restrict. They can’t make you & they can’t stop you. If you know the book that well, quit flaunting piety.
Sailor46 USN 65-95 over 3 years ago
As long as teachers give tests, there will always be prayer in schools.
Natarose over 3 years ago
You want to take prayer out of public school? Stop giving tests. LOL!
groovebilledani over 3 years ago
Please, Lord, don’t let me get bonked on the head by a D….