High-fructose corn syrup is just another form of sugar, not inherently better or worse, healthy or unhealthy. The only thing it can be accused of is that it is put in too many products, and that is not its fault.
As for not ruining corn, there are those who loathe creamed corn, though I love it.
Growing “commercial” corn is among the most awful things we do in the name of agriculture (soy beans are right up there too). And then the Feds went and made it worse by paying a premium for corn-based ethanol to be mixed with gasoline. GRMBL!
You may consider all sugars alike but your body in not confused by this. Sucrose is the common disaccharide (double sugar) or table sugar we get from plants. It’s not useful until it’s broken down into glucose and fructose (the two halves). Glucose is a fuel that can be metabolized by nearly every cell in your body. Fructose is only metabolized in the liver. Therein lies the problem. Eaten in equal amounts, this puts a lot of strain on the liver. Excess fructose builds up and causes enlargement, scarring, dead liver cells … “fatty liver disease”.
Commercially, it’s known that fructose tastes sweeter. You can imagine how that factors into corporate decisions. Sugar is not bad. All carbohydrates break down into sugars to fuel us. Your liver is not bad. But your liver and pancreas can only process so much before you hurt them to your own demise. LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT MODERATION!
I prefer sugar to corn syrup but that’s personal choice and not anything technical. But, as I recall, development of corn syrup ramped up when sugar harvests were short and prices for sugar rose to where companies’ bottom lines were trending to pink. As always, one year’s profit sheet is the determiner of next year’s agenda.
Could be Miss Honeywell is suggesting that Frazz not spoil Mr. Spaetzle’s anticipation of a great corn meal with a negative review.
@pschearerabout 6 hours ago“How do you feel about agriculture in general?”
Perhaps the biggest mistake in human history or prehistory. According to Jared Diamond
That was over 30 years ago and without agriculture we would not have global warming or covid. But agriculture made possible grossly unequal societies, hard work for the lower classes and the threat of nuclear and other types of extinction.
That said our current forms of agriculture are criminally insane and only make sense in short term fiscal terms. Remember book profits are not real if the damage to your assets like land and the environment in general are not counted. We have at least in America reduced the topsoil to a media for basically hydroponic agriculture were we use 9 calories of fossil fuel energy for every calorie of food.
Fortunately some foresighted farmers a pointing towards a sustainable future using cattle, bison, goats for land remediation and meat.
Corn is one of the most carbohydrate laden vegetables. Almost as bad as rice. If you are going to eat corn, schedule a 100km, or more, bike ride the next day.
Every time I’ve been to a commercial Barbecue (often provided by a hotel restaurant) the corn on the cob, cut into short pieces, the corn has been ruined. It tastes rubbery and overcooked. My conclusion is that it’s very easy to ruin corn.
Since I don’t have reasonable access to a cornfield in the desert I guess I should be glad for the new hybrids of supersweet corn. Some of them even taste like corn as they get a few days from the field. But there is no substitute for the good taste of the old starchier corn, picked then cooked withing a couple hours.
Every summer I marvel at just how good the sweet corn is, and at the same time just how ridiculously cheap, and I have the same suggestion for the folks in Stockholm and Oslo:
If there’s ever a dead year for the The Nobel Prize for Economics, then that year they should award EVERY economist in the world a Nobel Prize. And the first economist who notices fresh corn in the summer flouts one of the basic premises of economics — the better something is, the more it costs — and figures out a way to do something about it and make that crop cost what it’s actually worth, then that economist gets his Nobel taken away.
Chrisdiaz801 over 3 years ago
I think Miss Plainwell is referring to your date, Frazz.
pschearer Premium Member over 3 years ago
High-fructose corn syrup is just another form of sugar, not inherently better or worse, healthy or unhealthy. The only thing it can be accused of is that it is put in too many products, and that is not its fault.
As for not ruining corn, there are those who loathe creamed corn, though I love it.
Concretionist over 3 years ago
Growing “commercial” corn is among the most awful things we do in the name of agriculture (soy beans are right up there too). And then the Feds went and made it worse by paying a premium for corn-based ethanol to be mixed with gasoline. GRMBL!
C over 3 years ago
Creamed corn is another way it can be ruined
Sanspareil over 3 years ago
Corn on the cob - good
Corn flakes — good
Corn syrup — mostly bad
Creamed corn — vomitous!
Detroit Dan over 3 years ago
My SIL puts mayo on his corn on the cob….yuk
Chris over 3 years ago
I’ve burned the corn to be inedible.
fritzoid Premium Member over 3 years ago
Corn is ruined by mixing it with lima beans. It isn’t actually the succotash that’s suffering, it’s the kid forced to eat it.
Old Girl over 3 years ago
Open Letter to pschearer et al
You may consider all sugars alike but your body in not confused by this. Sucrose is the common disaccharide (double sugar) or table sugar we get from plants. It’s not useful until it’s broken down into glucose and fructose (the two halves). Glucose is a fuel that can be metabolized by nearly every cell in your body. Fructose is only metabolized in the liver. Therein lies the problem. Eaten in equal amounts, this puts a lot of strain on the liver. Excess fructose builds up and causes enlargement, scarring, dead liver cells … “fatty liver disease”.
Commercially, it’s known that fructose tastes sweeter. You can imagine how that factors into corporate decisions. Sugar is not bad. All carbohydrates break down into sugars to fuel us. Your liver is not bad. But your liver and pancreas can only process so much before you hurt them to your own demise. LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT MODERATION!oakie817 over 3 years ago
i love it raw too
ottowald over 3 years ago
We have a local chicken place that has ruined corn on the cob
HunterIsACriminal over 3 years ago
They forgot to tell me to eat the corn first, then use just the cob for toilet paper.
Rotary12 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Actually, you should stay away from corn. Our bodies do not process it very well and all that starch turns to sugar.
sandpiper over 3 years ago
I prefer sugar to corn syrup but that’s personal choice and not anything technical. But, as I recall, development of corn syrup ramped up when sugar harvests were short and prices for sugar rose to where companies’ bottom lines were trending to pink. As always, one year’s profit sheet is the determiner of next year’s agenda.
Could be Miss Honeywell is suggesting that Frazz not spoil Mr. Spaetzle’s anticipation of a great corn meal with a negative review.
proclusstudent over 3 years ago
@pschearerabout 6 hours ago“How do you feel about agriculture in general?”
Perhaps the biggest mistake in human history or prehistory. According to Jared Diamond
That was over 30 years ago and without agriculture we would not have global warming or covid. But agriculture made possible grossly unequal societies, hard work for the lower classes and the threat of nuclear and other types of extinction.
That said our current forms of agriculture are criminally insane and only make sense in short term fiscal terms. Remember book profits are not real if the damage to your assets like land and the environment in general are not counted. We have at least in America reduced the topsoil to a media for basically hydroponic agriculture were we use 9 calories of fossil fuel energy for every calorie of food.
Fortunately some foresighted farmers a pointing towards a sustainable future using cattle, bison, goats for land remediation and meat.
Flatlander, purveyor of fine covfefe over 3 years ago
you forgot ethanol
patmobley over 3 years ago
I read a list awhile back that had “Evaporated cane juice”
tee929 over 3 years ago
Good ol’ moonshine!
Teto85 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Corn is one of the most carbohydrate laden vegetables. Almost as bad as rice. If you are going to eat corn, schedule a 100km, or more, bike ride the next day.
Thinkingblade over 3 years ago
We were having a bit of a family get together last weekend and my aunt was eating the corn raw.
abucksworth Premium Member over 3 years ago
Every time I’ve been to a commercial Barbecue (often provided by a hotel restaurant) the corn on the cob, cut into short pieces, the corn has been ruined. It tastes rubbery and overcooked. My conclusion is that it’s very easy to ruin corn.
DudeHoldMyBearandWatchThis over 3 years ago
Bubba: You can grill it…cream it…boil it…corndogs…cornbread…[3 days later]…and corn squeezin’s.
Forrest: Me and Bubba decided we was gonna start a corn farm when we got back. But Bubba never got back.
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member over 3 years ago
You can fry it in it’s self.
buflogal! over 3 years ago
Since I don’t have reasonable access to a cornfield in the desert I guess I should be glad for the new hybrids of supersweet corn. Some of them even taste like corn as they get a few days from the field. But there is no substitute for the good taste of the old starchier corn, picked then cooked withing a couple hours.
UnklGene over 3 years ago
You’re a loon!
rimose over 3 years ago
Everything you can do to corn can also be done to the Thing from another World.
mysterysciencefreezer over 3 years ago
I do love listening to people go on about the evils of HFCS, like ordinary sugar is some sort of health food.
Same luddite nonsense that’s held back GMO crop development.
Seed_drill over 3 years ago
It’s pretty easy to ruin corn. Leave it on the stalk a little too long and it gets tough or wait too long to cook it and it loses it’s sweetness.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 3 years ago
Frazz17 hrs ·
Every summer I marvel at just how good the sweet corn is, and at the same time just how ridiculously cheap, and I have the same suggestion for the folks in Stockholm and Oslo:
If there’s ever a dead year for the The Nobel Prize for Economics, then that year they should award EVERY economist in the world a Nobel Prize. And the first economist who notices fresh corn in the summer flouts one of the basic premises of economics — the better something is, the more it costs — and figures out a way to do something about it and make that crop cost what it’s actually worth, then that economist gets his Nobel taken away.
FrankTAW 12 months ago
There’s another basic premise of economics, that the more abundant something is the less it costs.