Moderately Confused by Jeff Stahler for April 10, 2023

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    kingdiamond69  over 1 year ago

    Forced Patriotism is not instilling love of country in our youth it is indoctrination.

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    KA7DRE Premium Member over 1 year ago

    I had to do it when I started grade school in 1954., and it should still be required today.

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    pschearer Premium Member over 1 year ago

    “. . . one nation, indivisible.” Congress added “under God” to show them d-mned Godless Commies. So much for Separation of Church and State.

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    rudym300  over 1 year ago

    Who’s being forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance every day? What tripe to complain about something that isn’t happening.

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    SuperAndy Premium Member over 1 year ago

    The First Amendment guarantees the freedom to speak as well as the freedom not to speak. Students have the right to withhold from reciting the Pledge. In my experience, it was done in elementary school. Elementary students should be taught civics. I don’t think it’s in their mind at that age to decline from reciting a pledge because it’s forced freedom.

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    Carl  Premium Member over 1 year ago

    He says after being forced to attend school each day for hours.

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    Zebrastripes  over 1 year ago

    Blame the parents for not raising their kids and not teaching them scruples, compassion, responsibility, faith, love, respect, truth, loyalty to America!

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    sandpiper  over 1 year ago

    I started grade school the September before Pearl Harbor. The ‘Pledge’ had a lot more meaning over the next few years. So did our prayers for our troops., many of whom were our framily, our neighbors, our coaches and our teachers, and our ministers. That, at least, has not changed.

    Prayers for the fallen, the injured, their families, and their caretakers.

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    Zen-of-Zinfandel  over 1 year ago

    The phrase “under God” was added to the pledge in 1954. Members of congress wanted to emphasize a difference between the USA and the evil empire.

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    RetiredSquid  over 1 year ago

    Move to Russia.

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    rickmac1937 Premium Member over 1 year ago

    You can always leave the country or did you cross in illegally?

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    Will E. Makeit Premium Member over 1 year ago

    unlike taxation without representation…repeal the 16th amendment…

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    ragsarooni  over 1 year ago

    Well,you could always “take a knee”……

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    CeceliaWD Premium Member over 1 year ago

    Forced? How about randomly fortunate? Blessed? Grateful?

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    RadioDial Premium Member over 1 year ago

    I now realize when I look back, I was being ’groomed".

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    dflak  over 1 year ago

    Nothing says freedom more than to be force to live by someone else’s religious principles – MAGA.

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    osurickbee Premium Member over 1 year ago

    Then, buh bye-ee

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    mistercatworks  over 1 year ago

    I always hated this. Being an American is not about doing the same thing as everyone else.

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    dpatrickryan Premium Member over 1 year ago

    More and more I find myself wondering exactly what “freedoms” y’all have any more? (Other than carrying guns that kill kids, I mean.)

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    edge32  over 1 year ago

    When I say the pledge, I always leave out the “under god” part. It was not in the original pledge and I am an atheist. I have no desire for some fictional god to play a role in my country.

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    Taste the air Premium Member over 1 year ago

    Saying the pledge doesn’t make one a patriot. Being a patriot doesn’t make one a decent person. Being a chauvinist doesn’t make one a real patriot; patriots can quiet and unassuming and not screaming about how patriotic they are.

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    ValancyCarmody Premium Member over 1 year ago

    “West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment protects students from being forced to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance in public school.”

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    Moore 1  over 1 year ago

    Odd, when a short Austrian did this it was considered evil.

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    Retrac Premium Member over 1 year ago

    If having an expressed allegiance to a country is a bad thing, then those who do not align with the patriotism of where they live, should be free to move to and live in the country that promises the best alignment with their beliefs.

    For me, I choose the republic of the United States of America, and I also embrace immigrants who come to the USA with intentions of patriotism to our flag. My forebears were immigrants. I am lucky to be here.

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    sedrelwesley2 Premium Member over 1 year ago

    …& to a FLAG?!!! How about to the principles of equality under the law, etc.?

    My understanding is that our “pledge” is the result of a campaign by a flag company – to sell more flags!

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    harvey812abc  over 1 year ago

    Or forced to have a baby, or forced to take a vaccine, or wear a mask, or wear a seat belt, etc., etc.

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    rklittle Premium Member over 1 year ago

    Stahler’s Woke Returns and the lefty diatribes are revulsive

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    jnd113  over 1 year ago

    If this place is so bad why are there thousands of people trying to come here? How many are going to China, Russia, South America, Africa and the list goes on and on. If you believe it is a terrible place I suggest you try another country and tell me how that works out for you. I was an Army M.P. in Berlin, Germany. That was not built to keep people from getting in but getting out.

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    ajakimber425  over 1 year ago

    And what makes you think other countries don’t do the same thing?

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    Kenneth Penney Premium Member over 1 year ago

    Funny, I graduated from High School in the south in 1976. In all of those years, we were never compelled to do it everyday. Usually, just a few times a year. Maybe a half a dozen per year.

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    No New Wars  9 months ago

    But did you do the Bellamy Salute, as was originally required? To stretch out your right arm with the fingers outstretched and the palm downwards.

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