If the government employees’ holiday schedule ever changed to match the public sector, they’d have to give up about 18 holidays. Gee, why don’t we all get on the govt patrol? Oh, who would pay for it then?
While I respect the day, and what it commemorates, why is it called Juneteenth? Unless there’s some historical significance to the name, it seems vague and unimaginative. I would think emancipation day would be a better name. It at least gives a clue to the significance of the day
The end of slavery really left modern people with an odd set of interretations to cope with. Historians today claim the war was entirely about slavery…which would mean the hundreds of thousands of union casualties, all those sons, brothers, fathers shed their blood to free an oppressed people. But reading the historical accounts of Juneteenth in Texas, it varied from severance pay at the plantations (one gave a bale of cotton and a bushel of corn with a goodbye handshake) to the advice that the unknown looked pretty scary, where many ex slaves stayed where they were for as many as two more years for room and board. Now many slaves were skilled labor, blacksmiths, brick masons, carpenters or at the least experienced at handling stock and general farm chores…all hirable skills. Many were previously hired out by their owners. But post war there was little money in an economy destroyed by war. Now contrary to todays historians…if you were a family in Ohio that lost a father and an uncle in the war…solely out of concern for enslaved people…why did that concern abruptly come to a screeching halt at war’s end. Shouldn’t there have been enormous political pressure in the north to care for slaves? Land reform taking all the old plantations and breaking them into 40 acre homesteads? All those horses and mules massed by the armies for war….shouldn’t they have been provided to slaves? The vast stores of food and livestock held by the army distributed? Tents for the dispossed? Railroads covered most of the inhabited country, why not free passes to everyone of color to allow them to easily and quickly migrate from the South? What about the vast quantities of government owned land at the edge of the west…Kansas, Nebraska? Why not cash money to tide ex-slaves over for two or three years along with 40 acres two mules, a plow and tools, seed, a half dozen milk cows…..the cost would have been negligible compared to what was already spent .
So which is it? The war was waged out of love and concern for the fate of an enslaved people. Or was it just a part of a society tearing itself apart over vast cultural and economic differences that irrationally came to bloodshed…and the fate of those slaves was quickly thrown to the wind?
Just want to point out that ending slavery is something for ALL Americans to celebrate, not just black people. If you don’t think so, you don’t even know what America is ABOUT.
I always thought they were retired, but if he’s lucky it’s on a Monday and unhappy that it’ll be on a Wednesday, he must still have a job. I’m retired and I don’t really care what day a holiday falls on, I’m off them all!
Wednesday holidays can be confusing. Do you take Monday and Tuesday off as well, making a five day weekend and return on Thursday or do you take Thursday and Friday off as well and make it 5 day weekend the other way. I prefer the latter. YMMV
I have never had a job where I got off because of a holiday. Indeed most of those holidays that others take for granted were the days where we were required to work. Most-but not all, of my employers did give us “Holiday” pay. My mom was a waitress, and very few of the restaurants she worked at closed for anything as well.
C over 1 year ago
June who?
Ruth Brown over 1 year ago
Juneteenth doesn’t sound date specific to me. Why not let it be a floating holiday?
seismic-2 Premium Member over 1 year ago
I don’t know why Arlo is upset at the prospect of a Wednesday holiday. When you’re retired, it doesn’t really matter.
KennethPrice over 1 year ago
It doesn’t matter, they are both retired.
nosirrom over 1 year ago
Any day without junk mail delivery is a lucky day.
ednorton130 over 1 year ago
when you are retired holidays don’t matter.
Charles over 1 year ago
Stupid made up “holiday” commemorating minor events over 150 years ago that nobody ever heard of 5 years ago.
PoochFan over 1 year ago
If the government employees’ holiday schedule ever changed to match the public sector, they’d have to give up about 18 holidays. Gee, why don’t we all get on the govt patrol? Oh, who would pay for it then?
ScullyUFO over 1 year ago
Make it the first Monday on or after June 13
Red Phantom over 1 year ago
While I respect the day, and what it commemorates, why is it called Juneteenth? Unless there’s some historical significance to the name, it seems vague and unimaginative. I would think emancipation day would be a better name. It at least gives a clue to the significance of the day
ms-ss over 1 year ago
Why do Juneteenth banners feature raised fists? Isn’t that a little bit inflammatory?
whulsey over 1 year ago
The end of slavery really left modern people with an odd set of interretations to cope with. Historians today claim the war was entirely about slavery…which would mean the hundreds of thousands of union casualties, all those sons, brothers, fathers shed their blood to free an oppressed people. But reading the historical accounts of Juneteenth in Texas, it varied from severance pay at the plantations (one gave a bale of cotton and a bushel of corn with a goodbye handshake) to the advice that the unknown looked pretty scary, where many ex slaves stayed where they were for as many as two more years for room and board. Now many slaves were skilled labor, blacksmiths, brick masons, carpenters or at the least experienced at handling stock and general farm chores…all hirable skills. Many were previously hired out by their owners. But post war there was little money in an economy destroyed by war. Now contrary to todays historians…if you were a family in Ohio that lost a father and an uncle in the war…solely out of concern for enslaved people…why did that concern abruptly come to a screeching halt at war’s end. Shouldn’t there have been enormous political pressure in the north to care for slaves? Land reform taking all the old plantations and breaking them into 40 acre homesteads? All those horses and mules massed by the armies for war….shouldn’t they have been provided to slaves? The vast stores of food and livestock held by the army distributed? Tents for the dispossed? Railroads covered most of the inhabited country, why not free passes to everyone of color to allow them to easily and quickly migrate from the South? What about the vast quantities of government owned land at the edge of the west…Kansas, Nebraska? Why not cash money to tide ex-slaves over for two or three years along with 40 acres two mules, a plow and tools, seed, a half dozen milk cows…..the cost would have been negligible compared to what was already spent .
whulsey over 1 year ago
So which is it? The war was waged out of love and concern for the fate of an enslaved people. Or was it just a part of a society tearing itself apart over vast cultural and economic differences that irrationally came to bloodshed…and the fate of those slaves was quickly thrown to the wind?
joedon2007 over 1 year ago
This year July 4 is a Tuesday. Bet a lot of people will take Monday off.
Ignatz Premium Member over 1 year ago
Just want to point out that ending slavery is something for ALL Americans to celebrate, not just black people. If you don’t think so, you don’t even know what America is ABOUT.
StoicLion1973 over 1 year ago
My people asked for reparations (not that I agree with that) and all we got was a do-nothing holiday.
KEA over 1 year ago
Wednesdays are definitely the worst from a teaching perspective. …almost always a near total waste of a week.
paranormal over 1 year ago
Where do Arlo and Janis live? Most people outside of Texas don’t know what Juneteenth is.
SnuffyG over 1 year ago
I always thought they were retired, but if he’s lucky it’s on a Monday and unhappy that it’ll be on a Wednesday, he must still have a job. I’m retired and I don’t really care what day a holiday falls on, I’m off them all!
The Orange Mailman over 1 year ago
Very educational comments today. And by educational I mean educating me on facts and opinions.
Robert Miller Premium Member over 1 year ago
Is it a real holiday if my job doesn’t recognize it?
Teto85 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Wednesday holidays can be confusing. Do you take Monday and Tuesday off as well, making a five day weekend and return on Thursday or do you take Thursday and Friday off as well and make it 5 day weekend the other way. I prefer the latter. YMMV
felinefan55 Premium Member over 1 year ago
I have never had a job where I got off because of a holiday. Indeed most of those holidays that others take for granted were the days where we were required to work. Most-but not all, of my employers did give us “Holiday” pay. My mom was a waitress, and very few of the restaurants she worked at closed for anything as well.
eced52 over 1 year ago
What about emancipation month in January to celebrate the ending of slavery.
Ceeg22 Premium Member over 1 year ago
July 4th is a Tuesday this year
bigdad1211 8 months ago
I like that I get the day off