And let’s be real. The Republicans are so left-wing now it’s comical. The Dems have moved just to the left of Mao.
The Politicians in this country stand for no political principals – they stand for POWER, and POSITION, and PROFIT. Let’s ditch the R and the D and just stick a P after their names. All of them. Then throw them all out and find some decent human beings to actually hold the offices.
Someone sent me a comic the other day showing Obama standing between the donkey and the elephant. It said that Obama has really brought the two parties together… They both hate him!
Hi, I’m Bert and here in Va we have solved that problem by having ‘blended’ parties. We have Demlikins and Republicrats, each is a blend of both parties and practically indistinguishable from the other.
Cogent, (kinda funny name considering your attitude towards academics…Who else would you ask about political science?) .. And seriously, you really believe that people in government sit around and have meetings about how to make the government bigger? “Hey, Tom, what ideas do you have for making the government bigger??” And seriously, I bet you haven’t even had a political science class…Luddites never do…They pride themselves in NOT knowing anything about the subject they form their opinions about.
BTW, there is a fine line between feeding a troll and letting blatantly false statements stand. I believe sometimes you have to engage, if only to show that most people think the troll’s ideas are stupid if not dangerous. Therefore, call conservatives the American Taliban….
Skeptical, that’s the trouble with the cons, they don’t even acknowledge that a caution light exists….To them their are only two sides of an issue. They are two dimensional…Evidently they missed the fact we live in a three dimensional world….
I’d like to address a few comments1) under god. the people came seeking freedom of religion, and the gov’t was set up to clearly separate church and state. That was to protect the churches, but now it is needed to protect the gov’t.2) what’s good for business is good for the people. Yeah the people who own the business. The people who own the businesses also own the government. So for them it’s all good.3) lower taxes. there is a huge segment at the bottom of the ecomonic spectrum who pay no taxes even though they work and taxes are deducted from paychecks. When they file they get it all back plus what is called earned income credit. To be clear — they get back more than they put in. On the other end of the spectrum, the 1% have so many loopholes, trusts, and foundations they pay little or no taxes. That leaves the dwindling middle class to support local, state, and national gov’t.
So wake up, middle class. Take controll or become extinct. And then who’s gonna take care of the rest of us?
Skepti, quotes huh? Direct me to them…or did you hear that on the radio or TV?..Do you realize how preposterous it is to say they are only there to make government bigger? They aren’t trying to do something like building highways and bridges, sewer systems dredging harbors, defending the country? Are you really that naive, or are you trying desperately to make a point? I think it’s the latter, but it’s so stupid, that only crazy people would think that! I bet you are one of those who believed that highway signs had directions on the back so the Russian tanks that were said to already be in the country, could know where to go. Conservatives are very paranoid people, always a boogie man commin’ after them and their way of life/religion/values, or whatever. It’s always something…That’s why they should never be voted into government…They are unstable people…Newt’s a classic example…
1 Each voter may cast one vote in each race, Each Candidate in a race shall have two options – For or Against. Total Against votes for each Candidate shall be subtracted from the total For votes for that Candidate.
(This supplies a option to voting for the lesser of two weasels.)
2 In each race, the Option “None of the Above is Acceptable”.
Should this option receive a plurality, the entire slate shall be rejected, and a second election with a new slate of candidate shall be held .
( The " A Plague on all their Houses " vote.)
The last would require a Constitutional Amendment:
3 Eliminate the “Winner Take All” option in the Electoral College. Each States EC votes shall be apportioned to the winners in each Congressional District, with the Senatorial EC votes going to the State wide Victor.
(This makes the states EC votes reflect the state as a whole, rather than 51% negating the other 49%, and a few highly populated states dominating the race.)
Part of the build-up to our current state of affairs is that some 30-50 years back, there was a push to get more ideological consistency within the major parties. Democrats were to be liberal/progressive, and Republicans were conservative/libertarian.
Result: the moderates got squeezed out, and the parties no longer feel they have to talk to each other.
I wouldn’t want to be in Bert’s shoes. The reps and dems disagree about 99.9 to the millionth power percent about everything. Except having to share their sandbox with a third party.
the US people ought to rent a boat that leaks and load all the congress people on it and let the boat that leaks send it on a trip around the world via the two poles (artic and anartic) and hope it sinks before it reaches dry land…..
don’t think too many people are very interested in voting for the dems or reps …you think we ought to be thinking about another party of individuals for office holders
Ida No almost 13 years ago
“Hey, Bert, if you need a lunch break, I’d be willing to stand in for you. This looks like it’s going to be a hoot.”
pnorman1 almost 13 years ago
A pox on both of your houses.
Harryfan almost 13 years ago
Politically correct, the Dems on the left and the Reps on the right.
Orion-13 almost 13 years ago
Spot On.
And let’s be real. The Republicans are so left-wing now it’s comical. The Dems have moved just to the left of Mao.
The Politicians in this country stand for no political principals – they stand for POWER, and POSITION, and PROFIT. Let’s ditch the R and the D and just stick a P after their names. All of them. Then throw them all out and find some decent human beings to actually hold the offices.
Orion
Rodney99 almost 13 years ago
It’ll never catch on.
Superfrog almost 13 years ago
Everyone wants to be in the middle. It’s the Right Centre Left Party.
wilb44 almost 13 years ago
What is Bert selling??? Mud, rotten eggs, and ripe tomatoes. He is making them pay in gold or gasoline. The dollar is not going to be worth anything.
dflak almost 13 years ago
Sign me up.
chris_weaver almost 13 years ago
A really good slogan for this party that would set it apart from the Ds and Rs would be something like: We are not whores for Wall Street.
Ensoh almost 13 years ago
As of today he wants to be called, “The Bert”; and to join the party one kisses his ring.
pswhitlark almost 13 years ago
Love the sign on the desk… Just wish we had someone to vote for…
roctor almost 13 years ago
Just like centrist we all know.
tripwire45 almost 13 years ago
Yes! That’s me, alright.
psychlady almost 13 years ago
You got that right!!!
BRAVO!!!!!!!
js305 almost 13 years ago
All being said, a vote for Bert is a vote for Obama…
Think about it (Perot, Paul,…)
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member almost 13 years ago
ill join. as soon as you can find a candidate that is not a wacko.
Knightman Premium Member almost 13 years ago
Well Bert and the poor people of the USA are in the middle of the two idiot parties!
yaakovashoshana almost 13 years ago
Preach it, brother!
underwriter almost 13 years ago
Love it! Stealing it. And slug_queen, thanks for saying it – better than I could have.
Dr_Fogg almost 13 years ago
Someone sent me a comic the other day showing Obama standing between the donkey and the elephant. It said that Obama has really brought the two parties together… They both hate him!
Sandfan almost 13 years ago
Many interesting comments today. ‘Interesting’ as in the old Chinese curse “May you live in interesting times”.
ZydecoBear almost 13 years ago
I’m with Bert on this one.
firebirdjim almost 13 years ago
I still like the bumper sticker during the Nixon campaign that said “VOTE ‘NO’ FOR PRESIDENT”.
ssmithss almost 13 years ago
Hi, I’m Bert and here in Va we have solved that problem by having ‘blended’ parties. We have Demlikins and Republicrats, each is a blend of both parties and practically indistinguishable from the other.
bobballewie almost 13 years ago
Wow. And I thought this was a cartoon. Aren’t we supposed to chuckle?
The Life I Draw Upon almost 13 years ago
Two sides of the same wooden nickel.
Varnes almost 13 years ago
Cogent, (kinda funny name considering your attitude towards academics…Who else would you ask about political science?) .. And seriously, you really believe that people in government sit around and have meetings about how to make the government bigger? “Hey, Tom, what ideas do you have for making the government bigger??” And seriously, I bet you haven’t even had a political science class…Luddites never do…They pride themselves in NOT knowing anything about the subject they form their opinions about.
Varnes almost 13 years ago
BTW, there is a fine line between feeding a troll and letting blatantly false statements stand. I believe sometimes you have to engage, if only to show that most people think the troll’s ideas are stupid if not dangerous. Therefore, call conservatives the American Taliban….
TheAuldWan almost 13 years ago
Most scary words: “I’m from the government and I’m here to help!”
jimelek almost 13 years ago
Finally! A short, simple way of describing my political views!
John Glynn creator almost 13 years ago
I’m joining the Pickle Party.
sleepeeg3 almost 13 years ago
Winner.
treered almost 13 years ago
“here I am, stuck in the middle with you…” LOL!
Varnes almost 13 years ago
Skeptical, that’s the trouble with the cons, they don’t even acknowledge that a caution light exists….To them their are only two sides of an issue. They are two dimensional…Evidently they missed the fact we live in a three dimensional world….
monawarner almost 13 years ago
I’d like to address a few comments1) under god. the people came seeking freedom of religion, and the gov’t was set up to clearly separate church and state. That was to protect the churches, but now it is needed to protect the gov’t.2) what’s good for business is good for the people. Yeah the people who own the business. The people who own the businesses also own the government. So for them it’s all good.3) lower taxes. there is a huge segment at the bottom of the ecomonic spectrum who pay no taxes even though they work and taxes are deducted from paychecks. When they file they get it all back plus what is called earned income credit. To be clear — they get back more than they put in. On the other end of the spectrum, the 1% have so many loopholes, trusts, and foundations they pay little or no taxes. That leaves the dwindling middle class to support local, state, and national gov’t.
So wake up, middle class. Take controll or become extinct. And then who’s gonna take care of the rest of us?
Varnes almost 13 years ago
Skepti, quotes huh? Direct me to them…or did you hear that on the radio or TV?..Do you realize how preposterous it is to say they are only there to make government bigger? They aren’t trying to do something like building highways and bridges, sewer systems dredging harbors, defending the country? Are you really that naive, or are you trying desperately to make a point? I think it’s the latter, but it’s so stupid, that only crazy people would think that! I bet you are one of those who believed that highway signs had directions on the back so the Russian tanks that were said to already be in the country, could know where to go. Conservatives are very paranoid people, always a boogie man commin’ after them and their way of life/religion/values, or whatever. It’s always something…That’s why they should never be voted into government…They are unstable people…Newt’s a classic example…
Don Hulbert Premium Member almost 13 years ago
Perfect, Wiley. Sums up how I — and many other independent/non-aligned voters — feel.
Miserichord almost 13 years ago
Proposals for changes in the election process:
1 Each voter may cast one vote in each race, Each Candidate in a race shall have two options – For or Against. Total Against votes for each Candidate shall be subtracted from the total For votes for that Candidate.
(This supplies a option to voting for the lesser of two weasels.)
2 In each race, the Option “None of the Above is Acceptable”.
Should this option receive a plurality, the entire slate shall be rejected, and a second election with a new slate of candidate shall be held .
( The " A Plague on all their Houses " vote.)
The last would require a Constitutional Amendment:
3 Eliminate the “Winner Take All” option in the Electoral College. Each States EC votes shall be apportioned to the winners in each Congressional District, with the Senatorial EC votes going to the State wide Victor.
(This makes the states EC votes reflect the state as a whole, rather than 51% negating the other 49%, and a few highly populated states dominating the race.)
bmonk almost 13 years ago
Part of the build-up to our current state of affairs is that some 30-50 years back, there was a push to get more ideological consistency within the major parties. Democrats were to be liberal/progressive, and Republicans were conservative/libertarian.
Result: the moderates got squeezed out, and the parties no longer feel they have to talk to each other.
Kaputnik almost 13 years ago
Reminds me of the election in “Brewster’s Millions”, where the people vote for “none of the above”.
Fuzzy Thinker Premium Member almost 13 years ago
Only Independents can pull D and R towards common sense.
Ernest Lemmingway almost 13 years ago
I wouldn’t want to be in Bert’s shoes. The reps and dems disagree about 99.9 to the millionth power percent about everything. Except having to share their sandbox with a third party.
Tazmaniac Woman almost 13 years ago
Been where Bert is for a while now….
shazzam69 almost 13 years ago
the US people ought to rent a boat that leaks and load all the congress people on it and let the boat that leaks send it on a trip around the world via the two poles (artic and anartic) and hope it sinks before it reaches dry land…..
shazzam69 almost 13 years ago
don’t think too many people are very interested in voting for the dems or reps …you think we ought to be thinking about another party of individuals for office holders