our smartphones have more computing power than putting a man on the moon during the apollo missions. excel made what if scenarios easier to simulate. databases made the card catalog obsolete. internet and ereaders are replacing books and libraries and newspapers and magazines. so, why not teachers teach kids programming.
Right!Stay inside and let your legs atrophy, as well as your brain.Don’t go outside, you might melt. Don’t run, you’ll hurt your body. Use your brain and at 50, you’ll be crawling to you wheelchair!
A friend of mine is a retired physicist. His son (an artist) gave him the perfect Christmas gift: one of those glass-fronted boxes, labelled “In Case of Malfunction, Break Glass.” Inside—a slide rule.
I grew up watching my much-older brothers use “slipsticks” and dreamed of the day when I would be taught to use them. By the time I was old enough they were long gone.
I am a recovering math thead – aced my math ACT test, etc. In 42 years of high tech I have never used anything above the fundamentals of algebra in my job. Really, it is time we re-evaluated the level of math we teach to most students.
You can multiply/divide great on a slide rule. The add/subtract is a little tougher. I’ll take the calculator. -——Plus with the slide rule you had to worry where the decimal point went. But you still have to know some math just in case you put your finger the wrong place on the calculator.
I think they should ban all electronics in the classroom until at least 5th grade (some computer time is fine but not when teaching anything else). I always got mad at my parents for making me go to a small Catholic school that made me learn the old way. Now I thank God. I am 25 and can not believe the number of my friends that can’t figure out the simplest things without breaking out their phone or google. AAAAAHHHHH
They’re planning to start teaching kids to progam from an early age in the UK. (I’ve no idea how since I doubt many teachers know how to.)
But most programming requires a solid basis of maths, and if you can’t get the hang of something so simple as algebra you aren’t going to get far. If you want to do fancy graphics (beyond canned stuff) you’ll need trigonometry and matrices.
And to write worthwhile applications – its like writing a book – you have to have something worth writing. I work for a scientific software company – most of us are PhD chemists/biophysicists.
I agree Calvin, machines are good at math, except mine must be broken because she is always asking me You spent HOW MUCH on that?How long are you going to sit there?How much money are you going to put into that thing?How many times have I told you?Etc.Etc. Heh heh heh.
You don’t teach programming, you hire nerd kids(that are doomed to living in their parents’ basement) to do the job for you. The best programmers are all self taught.
Raspberry pi. A $35 computer the size of a credit card, designed to teach computer skills (both hardware & software) to school children. It seems to have the most active group of proponents in the UK.
Higher math, Algebra, Trig, were my worst subjects. I’ve always felt there was no real need for them. That was 45 years ago. I became a Mechanical Engineer. I use Trig on a daily basis. Thank God for Computer Aided Design programs. They’ve made my life a lot easier. Learn what you can, while you can. You never know what you’re going to need until you need it.
Growing older and older I more and more prefer to go outside!! I appreciate every sunbeam and natur and think, how long it will be permited to me to see everything what God has created!!
In past blogs, there have been discussions about what Calvin’s dad does for a living. Given the bit of info about the slide rule, (which I also learned to use in high school until my senior year when large, “portable” calculators started appearing) I would guess that dad is an engineer. Accountants wouldn’t use slide rules.
The weather here has been magnificent lately. Too bad I am recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery and am hobbling around on a crutch, so an excercise walk is “out” at the moment, otherwise I would do that this afternoon….
Yeah, I’ll never be a politician. First of all, I don’t have enough charisma, second of all, I don’t have any money. So, Calvin and I are in the same boat.
Asimov long ago wrote on the dangers of relying on technology in “The Feeling of Power”.
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On the other hand, I still find uses for and value in using my 3-digit analog solar powered calculator. Quite handy—and even more so if the power ever quits, as in that new series Revolution.
rentier almost 12 years ago
To go outside would be my suggestion too!
jai-jai almost 12 years ago
Sally Brown would appreciate this.
tweety2010 almost 12 years ago
The logic is twisted .. but I too kinda agree with Calvin on this one!
Gigantor almost 12 years ago
Go outside? And get skin cancer and premature aging? I propose we stay inside and watch TV or surf the Net.
margueritem almost 12 years ago
At least he tried…
Linux0s almost 12 years ago
Leave math to the machines and next thing you know… Skynet!
bluskies almost 12 years ago
I’m in! In fact, I’m in front of you. Catch me if you can!
vwdualnomand almost 12 years ago
our smartphones have more computing power than putting a man on the moon during the apollo missions. excel made what if scenarios easier to simulate. databases made the card catalog obsolete. internet and ereaders are replacing books and libraries and newspapers and magazines. so, why not teachers teach kids programming.
runar almost 12 years ago
It wasn’t until I got to college that some of the teachers moved their classes outdoors on nice days.
RetroJenny almost 12 years ago
Nice try, Calvin!
ratlum almost 12 years ago
My bills never got through too.But I still must have learned something ,or at least how to learn something later.
38lowell almost 12 years ago
Right!Stay inside and let your legs atrophy, as well as your brain.Don’t go outside, you might melt. Don’t run, you’ll hurt your body. Use your brain and at 50, you’ll be crawling to you wheelchair!
orinoco womble almost 12 years ago
A friend of mine is a retired physicist. His son (an artist) gave him the perfect Christmas gift: one of those glass-fronted boxes, labelled “In Case of Malfunction, Break Glass.” Inside—a slide rule.
I grew up watching my much-older brothers use “slipsticks” and dreamed of the day when I would be taught to use them. By the time I was old enough they were long gone.
flagmichael almost 12 years ago
I am a recovering math thead – aced my math ACT test, etc. In 42 years of high tech I have never used anything above the fundamentals of algebra in my job. Really, it is time we re-evaluated the level of math we teach to most students.
rshive almost 12 years ago
You can multiply/divide great on a slide rule. The add/subtract is a little tougher. I’ll take the calculator. -——Plus with the slide rule you had to worry where the decimal point went. But you still have to know some math just in case you put your finger the wrong place on the calculator.
Cajtri87 almost 12 years ago
I think they should ban all electronics in the classroom until at least 5th grade (some computer time is fine but not when teaching anything else). I always got mad at my parents for making me go to a small Catholic school that made me learn the old way. Now I thank God. I am 25 and can not believe the number of my friends that can’t figure out the simplest things without breaking out their phone or google. AAAAAHHHHH
GalleyOar almost 12 years ago
I found my old slide rule but couldn’t figure out how to plug it in.
ellisaana Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Reading,Reasoning (logical thinking) andRemembering (history of mankind’s prior mistakes).
Recreation is good, too.
GrimmaTheNome almost 12 years ago
They’re planning to start teaching kids to progam from an early age in the UK. (I’ve no idea how since I doubt many teachers know how to.)
But most programming requires a solid basis of maths, and if you can’t get the hang of something so simple as algebra you aren’t going to get far. If you want to do fancy graphics (beyond canned stuff) you’ll need trigonometry and matrices.
And to write worthwhile applications – its like writing a book – you have to have something worth writing. I work for a scientific software company – most of us are PhD chemists/biophysicists.
Karaboo2 almost 12 years ago
I agree Calvin, machines are good at math, except mine must be broken because she is always asking me You spent HOW MUCH on that?How long are you going to sit there?How much money are you going to put into that thing?How many times have I told you?Etc.Etc. Heh heh heh.
route66paul almost 12 years ago
calculators ruined my life, I owned a slide rule grease factory. It was a niche market.
route66paul almost 12 years ago
You don’t teach programming, you hire nerd kids(that are doomed to living in their parents’ basement) to do the job for you. The best programmers are all self taught.
Habogee almost 12 years ago
Raspberry pi. A $35 computer the size of a credit card, designed to teach computer skills (both hardware & software) to school children. It seems to have the most active group of proponents in the UK.
Number Three almost 12 years ago
That’s a really good idea, Calvin.
100% agree with you!
xxx
Vonne Anton almost 12 years ago
From these comments, it is obvious there are three kinds of people in the world…those who can count and those who can’t.
sonnygreen almost 12 years ago
Higher math, Algebra, Trig, were my worst subjects. I’ve always felt there was no real need for them. That was 45 years ago. I became a Mechanical Engineer. I use Trig on a daily basis. Thank God for Computer Aided Design programs. They’ve made my life a lot easier. Learn what you can, while you can. You never know what you’re going to need until you need it.
StrangerCoug almost 12 years ago
I take it Calvin will pass on being a computer programmer when he grows up.
Popeyesforearm almost 12 years ago
Brilliant! My slide rule is make sure all the rocks are picked up before hittin’ the Slip-in-slide!
kaecispopX almost 12 years ago
If we are to be ruled by machines, learn how to rule the machines.
calvinsfriend110 almost 12 years ago
Close, but no cigar.
rentier almost 12 years ago
Growing older and older I more and more prefer to go outside!! I appreciate every sunbeam and natur and think, how long it will be permited to me to see everything what God has created!!
alan.gurka almost 12 years ago
In past blogs, there have been discussions about what Calvin’s dad does for a living. Given the bit of info about the slide rule, (which I also learned to use in high school until my senior year when large, “portable” calculators started appearing) I would guess that dad is an engineer. Accountants wouldn’t use slide rules.
khpage almost 12 years ago
The weather here has been magnificent lately. Too bad I am recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery and am hobbling around on a crutch, so an excercise walk is “out” at the moment, otherwise I would do that this afternoon….
Purple Ninja almost 12 years ago
Yeah, I’ll never be a politician. First of all, I don’t have enough charisma, second of all, I don’t have any money. So, Calvin and I are in the same boat.
Doug Taylor Premium Member almost 12 years ago
To all those that agree with Calvin…what are you going to do on December 22nd?
Rickapolis almost 12 years ago
I wish I still had my slide rule. It was actually kind of fun using it.
thomright almost 12 years ago
ha ha very funny
thomright almost 12 years ago
fail
Earendil almost 12 years ago
not entirely wrong….
bmonk almost 12 years ago
Asimov long ago wrote on the dangers of relying on technology in “The Feeling of Power”.
++++
On the other hand, I still find uses for and value in using my 3-digit analog solar powered calculator. Quite handy—and even more so if the power ever quits, as in that new series Revolution.
khpage almost 12 years ago
LIN 4869 – prayers said for you…khp<><
zerotsm almost 12 years ago
I use algebra almost every day in my work.