Hold on to her, Gunther! Any girl, who would go through all that for you, is a KEEPER! LOL
Yes, going through that rigamarole, everyday, would get old fast. I don’t see why Gunther couldn’t come on over to their dorm, while Stef was at practice, and spend some time there with Bets.
Gunther is a smart guy… why can’t he get a part time job somewhere? He then would have some money for his own place (especially if Bets chipped in).
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Should Bets pretend to break her leg, so she can stay freely at the Gulag, and the boys will ‘take care of her’?? LOL
Jeeez, just buy a tent and a sleeping bag and set up in one of the homeless encampments. All the privacy of living with Leslie and none of the sneaking around. Or do all the “sleeping” between 9 and midnight and not stay overnight. Or Bets and Gunther could get part-time jobs so they could afford to rent their own apartment. Or while Staph is away Gunther could move in to the quad the way Kip had when Staph was there. Or… Or … Or….
If she doesn’t like the current situation there are always alternatives. None of which G&K are interested. Because, I suspect this is all a build up to letting B&G move into the manse as “housesitters.”
I’m shocked bets hasn’t confronted gun yet with: “look boy, if you’re so afraid your mother will find out about this relationship and how she could react. Maybe I’ll end the anxiety and simply end the relationship.”
The real punchline is that Gunther’s mother knows all about this, and she’s fine with Bets, but she’s keeping quiet about it so they can “have their fun”.
Another set of panels with a smile ended by a guffaw in panel 3. “Only the first 12 times.” And people thought Bets was only motivated by social media? She loves her Gun(ther, Gunth now GUNTH) . Gunth is scared of suffocating momma. Gf has to sneak around. Tiffany, the love doctor step up. You’re badly needed.
Anyone know what he see’s in Guth? Certainly not bravado or manliness. Is this a “He makes me laugh” case? The boy has a woman like that, then the boy needs to man-up!
Bets said she is making $2,000 per month on line. Gunther should cut down his school hours a bit and get some computer work. The two of them could get a cheap place somewhere if they’re as serious as it seems. The gulag was a good deal financially – but now – too many strings attached.
Gunther will NEVER be out from under Mommy’s thumb, even after she’s gone, he will always be thinking “What would Mommy say”.Of course Gunther has always, at least in the last 10-12 years that I have been reading this COMIC, been unable to stand up for himself.And Mommy likes him that way.
Bets will always be in second place. Tell Gunther to grow up and zip up until he can deal with his priorities and stop treating Bets like a late night pizza delivery person. Look at Kip and Steff, he’s the one who makes the house calls. It’s one stop shopping and he’s on his way. Gunther is a shameful wimp.
Geez, Bets. Thought you have a brain? Just CLOSE the curtains so they can’t see you from the house. AND you would have known you would tire of it – you’re not stupid.
This sounds so tiring. Poor Bets, anyone would have had enough of this life. She must really love Gunther very much if she’s ready to submit to this whole farse for his sake. Tiffany would never agree to those kinds of terms and she doesn’t want her friends to have to. Can’t wait to see what her plan will be to resolve this situation.
Well, Betts IS good for something after all. She’s demonstrating the living personification of the definition of “confliction”. A demanding, superficial self-centered egotist reduced to living the life of a skulking petty sneak in hiding.
Visiting Ann❤️Eiffel is not nearly that complicated. Show up in a limo and take our Beloved Ann❤️Eiffel to the nicest restaurant in town. And hope for the best. Eat your ❤️s out, Ann❤️Eiffel lovers. We know who you are. Oh, and Bets, get a clue like hawt Stef and Tiff, take some tips and follow in the footsteps of Ann❤️Eiffel. Smart women do, you know.
“Mommy” is likely about 50 if Gunther is still 19; that means she would have been in high school in the 80’s and not the prudish 50’s. Also if they are still sophomores Gunther would still be taking lower division classes.
Gunth and Bets need to invite Irma and Al to dinner on their terms, in a restaurant (neutral ground) so they can get to know Bets. It’s how my wife , who is black, won my parents over, even though I was in my early forties and she was in her thirties.
The problem isn’t Gunther’s mother. The problem is Gunther’s fears about his mother and change. Bets is right to be annoyed, but she shouldn’t be demanding to spend the night with him under these circumstances — she should be insisting that they settle this in the open or not at all.
Yah, that’s a definite deal-breaker. I guess the only reason Bets is doing all of this is because that first night, when Gunther was making the “snipping” gesture regarding his mom, they actually talked about what the consequences of defying Al and Irma would be – that being Gunther being told to choose – either no Bets overnight visits or move out. He doesn’t want to move out. He likes the free rent and the luxury of not having to work. Bets needs to remember those famous words -
Bets’ utility as a foil is winding down. Her exit is being set up, as is the pairing of Tiff and Kip. Gun will be alone again, in time, setting the stage for the end game of marrying Luann.
Let me get this straight. Gunther’s wants to have Bets stay the night, making her sneak around like a shameful secret for 12 days, but he’s too chicken to talk to his mother? No one should put up with degradation like that for a partner who’s wish-washy and inconsiderate.
I don’t like Irma giving Bets the cold shoulder; but the “not under my roof” mindset of a parent is admittedly understandable for a parent (the DeGroots would probably do the same with Luann). Commenters suggested a number of places Gunther and Bets can spend the night that aren’t the Gulag. I get the impression Irma has this rule so that Gunth will decide to step up if he wants to take big relationship steps forward; but instead he’d rather put Bets through acting like a stray dog that’s being hidden from the landlord.
Given this is Gunther, I doubt that the disrespect angle will be emphasized and everything will fall on Irma, but I personally think he’s being a terrible boyfriend to Bets. And HE looks like he’s the worst person in this scenario. At least with Irma, it’s kind of normal that a parent would say “not under my roof,” but him refusing to stand up for Bets while wanting the benefits of having her stay the night is messed up. Bets ought to feel used.
Yep…Gunther, get a part time job. Bets, you make more than enough from your social media to pay for a place. As I recall, ‘twas a tidy sum of $2,000 a month when you challenged Tiff and she turned the manse into a storage rental place. Time to figure it out … there’s always a way. ¯\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯
I think Bets wants to stay with Gunther at his place more than he wants her there. That is why Bets is willing to sneak around and not force Gunther to do something he will never do – - confront his mommy. If he had to choose, Bets would probably lose.
I think Tiff should rent out the mansion! No one’s living there and she could make some $$$ depending on how many bedrooms there are. Let Gunther and Bets be the property managers and live there rent-free.
Bets is going to great lengths to be in the gulag, but Gunther is doing nothing to keep her there. I question his resolve. Meanwhile, Tiffany seems ok with it and is friends with Bets and the Grays like her, so maybe she will put in a good word for Bets with them.So, have a cup of tea and take some to share with them and in the gulag. Spread the love or what’s left after this turmoil! ;-)))
“For a man shall leave father and mother and cling to his wife” (Matthew 19:5). If he continues to cling to and/or bow the knee to mom at that time, at the very best, it’s indicative that he loves mom more than her. And in a marriage, that never ends well.
This is not casual sex or “hanky panky” as Al calls it. Gun & Bets are in a serious relationship. They are maybe 20 by now and can get engaged or married. Maybe that’s a good thing to do at this point.
I have a theory…not sure if this has already been said before though. But….I think the reason Al likes Tiff is because she’s loaded. And Bets isn’t. Irma is just going along with whatever Al says because she doesn’t want to lose him. Might be other reasons stated instead of that one but I think that’s the underlying reason.
Say what you will about Bets, but that is dedication. The parents, however, are the ones who need to grow up. Even when she wasn’t (secretly) living there they never liked her. Kinda hoping Les will come to the rescue here and get them to back off and let Gunther live his life. Like Tiff, he’s come a LONG way from being the punk bully he used to be. I feel if anyone can fix this, he can.
Just like I thought, this is just stupid children “playing house” on someone else’s dime.
Neither Gunther nor Bets are acting appropriately here. Sneaking around like this is just obnoxious and disrespectful. Both need to tell Irma and Al of the desired living arrangement….. and deal with the consequences:
1. Perhaps Irma and Al will be fine paying for them to “play house” together (unlikely)
or
2. Irma and Al will be displeased and a) Gunther and Bets need to abide by it if Gunther wants to live in the Gulag, or b) Gunther and Bets need to figure out a way to pay for their own lodging…. like adults.
Either you convince Gunny to man up and face Mommy with the truth, Bets, or this Thing you have, no matter whether there is strong love or not, will not hold together. No more skulking around!
lvlax over 1 year ago
Hold on to her, Gunther! Any girl, who would go through all that for you, is a KEEPER! LOL
Yes, going through that rigamarole, everyday, would get old fast. I don’t see why Gunther couldn’t come on over to their dorm, while Stef was at practice, and spend some time there with Bets.
Gunther is a smart guy… why can’t he get a part time job somewhere? He then would have some money for his own place (especially if Bets chipped in).
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Should Bets pretend to break her leg, so she can stay freely at the Gulag, and the boys will ‘take care of her’?? LOL
Templo S.U.D. over 1 year ago
tough
beb01 over 1 year ago
Jeeez, just buy a tent and a sleeping bag and set up in one of the homeless encampments. All the privacy of living with Leslie and none of the sneaking around. Or do all the “sleeping” between 9 and midnight and not stay overnight. Or Bets and Gunther could get part-time jobs so they could afford to rent their own apartment. Or while Staph is away Gunther could move in to the quad the way Kip had when Staph was there. Or… Or … Or….
If she doesn’t like the current situation there are always alternatives. None of which G&K are interested. Because, I suspect this is all a build up to letting B&G move into the manse as “housesitters.”
Mordock999 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Bets?
Gunther offered a solution two years ago: Marriage.
YOU didn’t want to, yet. So this is YOUR “fault.”
But hey.
Let Gunth confront his parents over you and be made homeless in the process.
Then WHERE is he going to stay?
With YOUR “folks?” The ones YOU are TERRIFIED of and REFUSE to confront?
Bets. Go back to the dorm for the rest of the semester.
Then in the Summer, YOU confront YOUR “Folks,” for a change.And see what it’s like FIRST before you get Gunther to do it to his parental units. :-(
PS: And think for a moment. Are there that many single American college couples that actually live together for an extended period of time? Really?
Mark that “shacking up” you and Gunny did as a brief fun fling (That you got away with). Then MOVE on. “Confessing to it” would be foolish.
Last Rose Of Summer Premium Member over 1 year ago
He’s like 20? And scared of Mommy…I’d say she has a bigger problem.
Asharah over 1 year ago
With the college there, there has to be a cheap hotel around.
gnmnrbl over 1 year ago
I’m shocked bets hasn’t confronted gun yet with: “look boy, if you’re so afraid your mother will find out about this relationship and how she could react. Maybe I’ll end the anxiety and simply end the relationship.”
dadoctah over 1 year ago
The real punchline is that Gunther’s mother knows all about this, and she’s fine with Bets, but she’s keeping quiet about it so they can “have their fun”.
Joe1962 over 1 year ago
We need Les back in this arc to set Gunther straight.
luann1212 over 1 year ago
Another set of panels with a smile ended by a guffaw in panel 3. “Only the first 12 times.” And people thought Bets was only motivated by social media? She loves her Gun(ther, Gunth now GUNTH) . Gunth is scared of suffocating momma. Gf has to sneak around. Tiffany, the love doctor step up. You’re badly needed.
Enter.Name.Here over 1 year ago
Anyone know what he see’s in Guth? Certainly not bravado or manliness. Is this a “He makes me laugh” case? The boy has a woman like that, then the boy needs to man-up!
AN over 1 year ago
Love that panel of Bets’ silhouette running.
snsurone76 over 1 year ago
I betcha Bets blogged the full inventory of the "lads’ " closets.
kenhense over 1 year ago
Bets said she is making $2,000 per month on line. Gunther should cut down his school hours a bit and get some computer work. The two of them could get a cheap place somewhere if they’re as serious as it seems. The gulag was a good deal financially – but now – too many strings attached.
priyansh.jeziel over 1 year ago
Gunther will NEVER be out from under Mommy’s thumb, even after she’s gone, he will always be thinking “What would Mommy say”.Of course Gunther has always, at least in the last 10-12 years that I have been reading this COMIC, been unable to stand up for himself.And Mommy likes him that way.
nightflight over 1 year ago
Bets will always be in second place. Tell Gunther to grow up and zip up until he can deal with his priorities and stop treating Bets like a late night pizza delivery person. Look at Kip and Steff, he’s the one who makes the house calls. It’s one stop shopping and he’s on his way. Gunther is a shameful wimp.
Tito S. over 1 year ago
Making the situation even more harrowing, Bets has to avoid tripping over the umbilical cord that stretches from the main house to Gunther’s bedroom.
9thCapricorn over 1 year ago
Geez, Bets. Thought you have a brain? Just CLOSE the curtains so they can’t see you from the house. AND you would have known you would tire of it – you’re not stupid.
Wilkins068 over 1 year ago
I wanna know what happend on the 13th time
Rhetorical_Question over 1 year ago
They might fool Irma, but Al Gray isn’t easily fooled. Al once owned a night club in Las Vegas.
Rhetorical_Question over 1 year ago
Remember that Bets will not visit her family.
kertimjo over 1 year ago
Men ask for a woman’s hand, women can ask for a man’s hand. Listen to “I Hold Your Hand In Mine” by Tom Lehrer.
BabyBlue over 1 year ago
Move back into the dorm and don’t rely on Gunther for anything. He’s a boy not a man. Maybe he will be a man someday but he is not now.
gale5406 over 1 year ago
No one is at the mansion. They should stay there and pay a small fee or house sit.
drewpamon over 1 year ago
This is what happens when children play house.
limarick over 1 year ago
It sounds like Bets could use some of Tee’s “Tea”! Happy 420 everyone!
Aladar30 Premium Member over 1 year ago
This sounds so tiring. Poor Bets, anyone would have had enough of this life. She must really love Gunther very much if she’s ready to submit to this whole farse for his sake. Tiffany would never agree to those kinds of terms and she doesn’t want her friends to have to. Can’t wait to see what her plan will be to resolve this situation.
Tyge over 1 year ago
The first twelve times. Is she complaining or bragging? Then, of course, it has been broadly hinted that The G-man is prodigiously endowed.
https://www.gocomics.com/luann/2010/06/22 — and the next two days.
Rhetorical_Question over 1 year ago
Is the funding for university expenses controlled by Irma or Gunther?
sueb1863 over 1 year ago
So she’s not really living there, she’s just sneaking in at night.
I can’t see how that could possibly be sustainable for more than a few days. Sooner or later Al or Irma would look outside and see her.
GirlGeek Premium Member over 1 year ago
If you can tell her about Tiffany, you can tell her about Bets. This feels slightly racist for some reason.
wolfiiig over 1 year ago
Sounds like its ‘Man Up’ time.
OneTime59 over 1 year ago
Might be less stressful just cuddling in the car.
Rhetorical_Question over 1 year ago
A side door ? Hide in the closet?
D.E.N. over 1 year ago
Well, Betts IS good for something after all. She’s demonstrating the living personification of the definition of “confliction”. A demanding, superficial self-centered egotist reduced to living the life of a skulking petty sneak in hiding.
Count Olaf Premium Member over 1 year ago
Visiting Ann❤️Eiffel is not nearly that complicated. Show up in a limo and take our Beloved Ann❤️Eiffel to the nicest restaurant in town. And hope for the best. Eat your ❤️s out, Ann❤️Eiffel lovers. We know who you are. Oh, and Bets, get a clue like hawt Stef and Tiff, take some tips and follow in the footsteps of Ann❤️Eiffel. Smart women do, you know.
Johnnyrico over 1 year ago
Why can’t Gunther go to HER place? Or the two of them just meet somewhere else?
Cole Rene Premium Member over 1 year ago
Ellis97 over 1 year ago
Bets, if you and Gunther want to be together forever, you need to find your own place. Somewhere that you won’t have to worry about parental approval.
Gen.Flashman over 1 year ago
“Mommy” is likely about 50 if Gunther is still 19; that means she would have been in high school in the 80’s and not the prudish 50’s. Also if they are still sophomores Gunther would still be taking lower division classes.
BuckarooDave over 1 year ago
So Gunther is running his own “Underground Railroad” ??
=:-O
ekw555 over 1 year ago
and then, just to keep it completely under wraps, she posts it to social media to get likes.
hope Irma and Mr Grey don’t follow her online.
DamSkippy over 1 year ago
Why would she degrade herself like that? And why would he allow it?
rebroxanna over 1 year ago
Gunther is “terrified” of “Mommy”. That is a lot of hostility there. I can’t blame her.
ctolson over 1 year ago
Gunth and Bets need to invite Irma and Al to dinner on their terms, in a restaurant (neutral ground) so they can get to know Bets. It’s how my wife , who is black, won my parents over, even though I was in my early forties and she was in her thirties.
WilliamVollmer over 1 year ago
Betts; Tiffany was being sarcastic.
calliarcale over 1 year ago
The problem isn’t Gunther’s mother. The problem is Gunther’s fears about his mother and change. Bets is right to be annoyed, but she shouldn’t be demanding to spend the night with him under these circumstances — she should be insisting that they settle this in the open or not at all.
comic reader 22 over 1 year ago
Yah, that’s a definite deal-breaker. I guess the only reason Bets is doing all of this is because that first night, when Gunther was making the “snipping” gesture regarding his mom, they actually talked about what the consequences of defying Al and Irma would be – that being Gunther being told to choose – either no Bets overnight visits or move out. He doesn’t want to move out. He likes the free rent and the luxury of not having to work. Bets needs to remember those famous words -
Slip out the back Jack
Make a new plan Stan
You don’t need to be coy Roy
Just listen to me
Hop on the bus Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just drop off the key Lee
And get yourself free
Rauderi over 1 year ago
Comic/comedic problems would be so much easier to solve if characters actually talked to each other~
Caldonia over 1 year ago
So much for the Gunther fan boy dream of Gunther actually being cool….
Lord Hearteater over 1 year ago
Bets’ utility as a foil is winding down. Her exit is being set up, as is the pairing of Tiff and Kip. Gun will be alone again, in time, setting the stage for the end game of marrying Luann.
lorenkinzel over 1 year ago
I wonder if Betts will start wearing plaid shirts?
phileaux over 1 year ago
Been there done that
anaditz over 1 year ago
Well, this answers a lot of the “how has nobody not noticed her”-type questions.
GaryCooper over 1 year ago
Not worth it, Bets. Just spend the night in the dorm.
Wubbie over 1 year ago
Gunthie needs to man up and be truthful with his Mama or risk losing Betts. He flew off to Peru with Rosa after all.
BuckarooDave over 1 year ago
only real option is Gunther has to move out. Maybe into the dorms, maybe somewhere off-campus. But The Gulag is no longer tenable.
Rockabore over 1 year ago
Let me get this straight. Gunther’s wants to have Bets stay the night, making her sneak around like a shameful secret for 12 days, but he’s too chicken to talk to his mother? No one should put up with degradation like that for a partner who’s wish-washy and inconsiderate.
I don’t like Irma giving Bets the cold shoulder; but the “not under my roof” mindset of a parent is admittedly understandable for a parent (the DeGroots would probably do the same with Luann). Commenters suggested a number of places Gunther and Bets can spend the night that aren’t the Gulag. I get the impression Irma has this rule so that Gunth will decide to step up if he wants to take big relationship steps forward; but instead he’d rather put Bets through acting like a stray dog that’s being hidden from the landlord.
Given this is Gunther, I doubt that the disrespect angle will be emphasized and everything will fall on Irma, but I personally think he’s being a terrible boyfriend to Bets. And HE looks like he’s the worst person in this scenario. At least with Irma, it’s kind of normal that a parent would say “not under my roof,” but him refusing to stand up for Bets while wanting the benefits of having her stay the night is messed up. Bets ought to feel used.
Binky over 1 year ago
Yep…Gunther, get a part time job. Bets, you make more than enough from your social media to pay for a place. As I recall, ‘twas a tidy sum of $2,000 a month when you challenged Tiff and she turned the manse into a storage rental place. Time to figure it out … there’s always a way. ¯\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯
Mark DeMist Premium Member over 1 year ago
Dump him. He’s closeted and using you.
locake over 1 year ago
I think Bets wants to stay with Gunther at his place more than he wants her there. That is why Bets is willing to sneak around and not force Gunther to do something he will never do – - confront his mommy. If he had to choose, Bets would probably lose.
dayle2 over 1 year ago
I think Tiff should rent out the mansion! No one’s living there and she could make some $$$ depending on how many bedrooms there are. Let Gunther and Bets be the property managers and live there rent-free.
YorkGirl Premium Member over 1 year ago
Bets is going to great lengths to be in the gulag, but Gunther is doing nothing to keep her there. I question his resolve. Meanwhile, Tiffany seems ok with it and is friends with Bets and the Grays like her, so maybe she will put in a good word for Bets with them.So, have a cup of tea and take some to share with them and in the gulag. Spread the love or what’s left after this turmoil! ;-)))
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 1 year ago
“…gets routine, pretty boring. Great exercise, though!”
jimboklein over 1 year ago
Rosa was the best thing that ever happened to Gunther. He should have stayed in S. America with her, where he was finally learning to “man up”.
BlitzMcD over 1 year ago
“For a man shall leave father and mother and cling to his wife” (Matthew 19:5). If he continues to cling to and/or bow the knee to mom at that time, at the very best, it’s indicative that he loves mom more than her. And in a marriage, that never ends well.
Ginny Premium Member over 1 year ago
Gunther is a dweeb and doesn’t deserve a girlfriend!
The Quiet One over 1 year ago
That ain’t right.
Jaymi Cee Premium Member over 1 year ago
Sweet summer child Bets. If you have to go through all that, he is not old enough to date. Drop him, gently, and move on.
jrankin1959 over 1 year ago
Curiously, according to the biography American Caesar (by William Manchester), General Douglas MacArthur had the same problem.
mindjob over 1 year ago
All that work will come in handy when she runs that marathon
HodgeElmwood over 1 year ago
Who wants to bet that Al already knows?
kenhense over 1 year ago
This is not casual sex or “hanky panky” as Al calls it. Gun & Bets are in a serious relationship. They are maybe 20 by now and can get engaged or married. Maybe that’s a good thing to do at this point.
leighabc123 over 1 year ago
Two days left! Who is going to be angry on Saturday? Bets? Gunther? Stef? Or Mr. Al?
scott.rouse over 1 year ago
Did Bets find Gunther’s sexuality while she was in the closet?
JustMe over 1 year ago
I have a theory…not sure if this has already been said before though. But….I think the reason Al likes Tiff is because she’s loaded. And Bets isn’t. Irma is just going along with whatever Al says because she doesn’t want to lose him. Might be other reasons stated instead of that one but I think that’s the underlying reason.
Guybrush Threepwood over 1 year ago
Gunter is a pathetic, disgusting, spineless excuse of a man.
Vilyehm over 1 year ago
Gunther was conceived out of wedlock.
No other reasonable reason for mom’s behavior.
TwilightFaze over 1 year ago
Say what you will about Bets, but that is dedication. The parents, however, are the ones who need to grow up. Even when she wasn’t (secretly) living there they never liked her. Kinda hoping Les will come to the rescue here and get them to back off and let Gunther live his life. Like Tiff, he’s come a LONG way from being the punk bully he used to be. I feel if anyone can fix this, he can.
Pipe Tobacco over 1 year ago
Just like I thought, this is just stupid children “playing house” on someone else’s dime.
Neither Gunther nor Bets are acting appropriately here. Sneaking around like this is just obnoxious and disrespectful. Both need to tell Irma and Al of the desired living arrangement….. and deal with the consequences:
1. Perhaps Irma and Al will be fine paying for them to “play house” together (unlikely)
or
2. Irma and Al will be displeased and a) Gunther and Bets need to abide by it if Gunther wants to live in the Gulag, or b) Gunther and Bets need to figure out a way to pay for their own lodging…. like adults.
radar15627 over 1 year ago
How about getting there own place
Sisyphos over 1 year ago
Either you convince Gunny to man up and face Mommy with the truth, Bets, or this Thing you have, no matter whether there is strong love or not, will not hold together. No more skulking around!
GreggW Premium Member over 1 year ago
Is “Mommy” a racist?
198.23.5.11 over 1 year ago
Gee,I’ll bet Marilyn Monroe aND jOE dI maggio went through the exact same thing!!
washatkc Premium Member over 1 year ago
Well move out of the free house and you can do what you want. Don’t complain that you can’t have it both ways.