@Proginoskes: it was indeed vetoed there. That doesn’t mean, however that A) it won’t come up again there and B) some other states aren’t considering it. Of course, I suppose that means my religious beliefs could allow me to refuse service to pretty much anyone from gun owners to Tea Party members and certainly Baptists (because I’m not a Baptist).
I doubt any storefront business with generic offerings would post such a sign. From what I’ve seen, it is only when a fair amount of active participation would be involved (decorating and delivering a custom gay-themed wedding cake would be on the minimum side while spending the day photographing a gay wedding would be on the maximum, for example) that there are any religious rights vs gay rights problems. In my opinion, again depending on the level of involvement that would be required, there should be some point where a business could say “I’m sorry. I’m uncomfortable with this. Here are the names of three of my competitors who might be able to serve your needs.” As a further thought experiment, suppose you wanted to hire a Muslim caterer for your wedding (gay or otherwise) since you like mid-eastern food. They would probably tell you that alcohol could not be present since it is against their religious beliefs to have anything to do with it. Would it then be okay to extort them into serving you by threatening to boycott not only them, but also any of their suppliers or customers? Before we all start ordering private businesses to violate their perceived religious beliefs, we should take note that the unintended consequences could eventually come back to haunt us.Sorry if this is rambling, but it’s not even 6 AM, yet.
@ The Trusted MechanicI would say that the black owned dry cleaner could turn down the business. I am not against people sticking with their convictions, no matter what they are, but to have the government decide which convictions are ‘good’ and which are ‘bad’ is something that I do worry about. Also, I don’t mind protesting bigoted business, but I do mind, as I mentioned, extorting those who supply or patronize those businesses into driving a company out of business just because they won’t serve you. That seems a bit extreme of a reaction to someone honestly standing by their convictions.
As ill as this makes me, I agree with Night-Gaunt49. I prefer the bigots who make their views known. That way I know who to avoid, boycott, and even gouge on prices for IT services.
Businesses still have the right to post a sign saying they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone; sometimes, you’ll see a sign saying ‘no shirt, no shoes, no service’.-Bars have the legal responsibility to refuse further service to anyone they believe is intoxicated.-Sometimes, refusing service isn’t because of bias. -And potential customers also have the right to sue, to boycott, to spread the word to neighbors, to picket (as long as they don’t block the entrance to the business or the public right of way), to talk to reporters, etc.
Because “Bubba” is a pejorative all on its own, indicative of a racial stereotype of the white, southern inbred redneck, which is how many progressive liberals of superior intellect and morality envision anybody who is conservative, or otherwise not a progressive liberal of superior intellect and morality.Naturally. The best toys make the most noise.
I believe a black man, or any other person, should not have to launder KKK robes. Not because they are a hate group, but because the robes are a ceremonial piece. I believe people can refuse to support a cause, but not the people that make up the cause. Thus the laundry person must still take care of the KKK members ordinary clothes.
Never got the chance to read the full bit on the Arizona law that was recently vetoed. So no comment on that. But…..If its closing time – just because you have your foot jammed in the door does not mean I have to serve you..please read the signs at the door for ‘all you can eat’. There is a time limit on your stay. .If you are underage – don’t expect service .If you are under height or over that weight limit – sorry. .Sorry – we cannot take any more orders for today (or for whatever date) – and for times like delivering flowers on Valentines day – that could really be a truthful response..I’m sure there are other legitimate examples … that have nothing to do with anything other than business practices.
Two signs that are prevalent: 1. ‘Reserve the right to refuse service to anyone’, 2. ‘No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service’. The business IS allowed to exercise freedom of choice. If they want to limit the number of customers- that is THEIR business.
I have always enjoyed Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller, however this is NOT one of them. There are some things that cannot be laughed at and BIGIOTRY is one of them. There is nothing funny about this. Your 1st amendment right to be able to speak your mind ends with the lives of others. Back in the first half of the 20th century, this sort of thing was prevelant throughout the country; it resulted in a class of people being treated like animals — and worse. It even once affected my own father when he got back at the end of WW2 — his tan made people refuse him passage on the train. It wrong, and anybody who thinks it’s funny is brain dead.
This could be taken in so many different ways ,but if it were aimed at say, a “certain group” (illegals for instance) it would have been written in a language “other than” English which they may or may not understand.
@Keith Robey-There is nothing funny about…(fill in the blank on any given real life topic). By applying your logic to this cartoon (which is satire), one can just as easily extend it to every cartoon on the comics page. Do you somehow think this cartoon is making light of bigots and bigotry? It, in fact, is doing the opposite, holding bigots up to ridicule.
Superfrog over 10 years ago
Bordering on their own kind of bankruptcy. If you know what I mean.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr over 10 years ago
Sigh.Sign of the times.http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/17/south-dakota-gop-lawmaker-kkk-business-owners-deserve-right-to-ban-blacks-and-gays/
Varnes over 10 years ago
They also serve those who stand and hate…
bluskies over 10 years ago
Very inciteful strip, no?“now shake hands and come out swinging…”
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 10 years ago
Sorry, we don’t allow bigots.We are quite elite that way.Diversity is our rule, unless it diverges from our rule.
Proginoskes over 10 years ago
Yo, Wiley. Did you hear? Brewer vetoed the Arizona bill.
watmiwori over 10 years ago
The only good bigot is a dead bigot.
AKHenderson Premium Member over 10 years ago
It would be ironic if Bubba’s opened next to the ladies-only gym.
thirdguy over 10 years ago
but……my kind, is a customer who pays cash!
cdward over 10 years ago
@Proginoskes: it was indeed vetoed there. That doesn’t mean, however that A) it won’t come up again there and B) some other states aren’t considering it. Of course, I suppose that means my religious beliefs could allow me to refuse service to pretty much anyone from gun owners to Tea Party members and certainly Baptists (because I’m not a Baptist).
Charles Phipps Premium Member over 10 years ago
I doubt any storefront business with generic offerings would post such a sign. From what I’ve seen, it is only when a fair amount of active participation would be involved (decorating and delivering a custom gay-themed wedding cake would be on the minimum side while spending the day photographing a gay wedding would be on the maximum, for example) that there are any religious rights vs gay rights problems. In my opinion, again depending on the level of involvement that would be required, there should be some point where a business could say “I’m sorry. I’m uncomfortable with this. Here are the names of three of my competitors who might be able to serve your needs.” As a further thought experiment, suppose you wanted to hire a Muslim caterer for your wedding (gay or otherwise) since you like mid-eastern food. They would probably tell you that alcohol could not be present since it is against their religious beliefs to have anything to do with it. Would it then be okay to extort them into serving you by threatening to boycott not only them, but also any of their suppliers or customers? Before we all start ordering private businesses to violate their perceived religious beliefs, we should take note that the unintended consequences could eventually come back to haunt us.Sorry if this is rambling, but it’s not even 6 AM, yet.
puddlesplatt over 10 years ago
business is gonna be slow, or none at all…
Nebulous Premium Member over 10 years ago
I always thought that the standard sign was“We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”
azktryg over 10 years ago
Neither of my grandmothers were bigots.
Darsan54 Premium Member over 10 years ago
Aaaah, pre-Civil Rights legislation where you could lynch somebody with impunity.
Dr.silly over 10 years ago
Ok, I’ll bite. Who’s First Amendment rights are being denied?
peytie Premium Member over 10 years ago
Isn’t it bigotry against Southern’s to name the bigoted restaurant Bubba’s? I am from GA and am NOT a bigot.
Reppr Premium Member over 10 years ago
What have you got against spigots? The y perform a very useful function. wait. what? OH, you said BIGOTS! nevermind
peytie Premium Member over 10 years ago
ps, the comment above was made by me, Peyton’s wife, not Peyton, but he is from GA too, and is NOT a bigot either.
Geezer over 10 years ago
If I decline to bake a cake for the next meeting of the local KKK, does that mean I’m a bigot?
dabugger over 10 years ago
So guess who is not getting any business? Doing business in a district with ‘your kind’ and da like not.
Linda Pearson over 10 years ago
My tweet disappeared so in case it is not there my comment was that I don’t think Bernice was talking about Tiffany in that last panel.
wdgnas over 10 years ago
the biggest issue i had with the az bill was it was from the party of small government. small enough to fit in your bedroom.
Gokie5 over 10 years ago
As the old joke says, “Yeah, well, that’s all you can eat!”
Charles Phipps Premium Member over 10 years ago
@ The Trusted MechanicI would say that the black owned dry cleaner could turn down the business. I am not against people sticking with their convictions, no matter what they are, but to have the government decide which convictions are ‘good’ and which are ‘bad’ is something that I do worry about. Also, I don’t mind protesting bigoted business, but I do mind, as I mentioned, extorting those who supply or patronize those businesses into driving a company out of business just because they won’t serve you. That seems a bit extreme of a reaction to someone honestly standing by their convictions.
Enoki over 10 years ago
Must be a French resturant…
KEA over 10 years ago
I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that! (Tom Lehrer)
watmiwori over 10 years ago
But who protects the majority from abuse by theminority?
I Quit over 10 years ago
We reserve the right to serve women only if accompanied by an adult male relative or spouse.
tremblaydr over 10 years ago
Republicans won’t get it. (Which is funny, in itself…)
Ernest Lemmingway over 10 years ago
As ill as this makes me, I agree with Night-Gaunt49. I prefer the bigots who make their views known. That way I know who to avoid, boycott, and even gouge on prices for IT services.
Argy.Bargy2 over 10 years ago
Businesses still have the right to post a sign saying they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone; sometimes, you’ll see a sign saying ‘no shirt, no shoes, no service’.-Bars have the legal responsibility to refuse further service to anyone they believe is intoxicated.-Sometimes, refusing service isn’t because of bias. -And potential customers also have the right to sue, to boycott, to spread the word to neighbors, to picket (as long as they don’t block the entrance to the business or the public right of way), to talk to reporters, etc.
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 10 years ago
Because “Bubba” is a pejorative all on its own, indicative of a racial stereotype of the white, southern inbred redneck, which is how many progressive liberals of superior intellect and morality envision anybody who is conservative, or otherwise not a progressive liberal of superior intellect and morality.Naturally. The best toys make the most noise.
ishannon5289 over 10 years ago
I believe a black man, or any other person, should not have to launder KKK robes. Not because they are a hate group, but because the robes are a ceremonial piece. I believe people can refuse to support a cause, but not the people that make up the cause. Thus the laundry person must still take care of the KKK members ordinary clothes.
Hunter7 over 10 years ago
Never got the chance to read the full bit on the Arizona law that was recently vetoed. So no comment on that. But…..If its closing time – just because you have your foot jammed in the door does not mean I have to serve you..please read the signs at the door for ‘all you can eat’. There is a time limit on your stay. .If you are underage – don’t expect service .If you are under height or over that weight limit – sorry. .Sorry – we cannot take any more orders for today (or for whatever date) – and for times like delivering flowers on Valentines day – that could really be a truthful response..I’m sure there are other legitimate examples … that have nothing to do with anything other than business practices.
Fuzzy Thinker Premium Member over 10 years ago
Two signs that are prevalent: 1. ‘Reserve the right to refuse service to anyone’, 2. ‘No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service’. The business IS allowed to exercise freedom of choice. If they want to limit the number of customers- that is THEIR business.
Robeykr over 10 years ago
I have always enjoyed Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller, however this is NOT one of them. There are some things that cannot be laughed at and BIGIOTRY is one of them. There is nothing funny about this. Your 1st amendment right to be able to speak your mind ends with the lives of others. Back in the first half of the 20th century, this sort of thing was prevelant throughout the country; it resulted in a class of people being treated like animals — and worse. It even once affected my own father when he got back at the end of WW2 — his tan made people refuse him passage on the train. It wrong, and anybody who thinks it’s funny is brain dead.
reynard61 over 10 years ago
Brass Orchid said: “What is the sound of one fist shaking?”
In my experience, usually a long string of four letter words…
Caddy57 over 10 years ago
This could be taken in so many different ways ,but if it were aimed at say, a “certain group” (illegals for instance) it would have been written in a language “other than” English which they may or may not understand.
Dr.silly over 10 years ago
@Keith Robey-There is nothing funny about…(fill in the blank on any given real life topic). By applying your logic to this cartoon (which is satire), one can just as easily extend it to every cartoon on the comics page. Do you somehow think this cartoon is making light of bigots and bigotry? It, in fact, is doing the opposite, holding bigots up to ridicule.
DaveBNM over 10 years ago
You can only be a bigot if you are a Bubba? Isn’t this type of comic the definition of bigotry?
susan.e.a.c over 10 years ago
Yes, most people are very tolerant…unless you disagree with them.