Didn’t get back on ’til almost turnover but left responses to some of the comments. These humongous disaster events touch a lot of raw nerves. CO2 in the air is good, if only there were more rain forest acreage to “soak it all up”.
Originally, “kidnapped” only described taking kids, while the word “abducted” described taking adults. Not sure when we went off the rails with that, but I agree it doesn’t make much sense.
“English is the result of Norman men-at-arms trying to chat up Saxon barmaids.”
In the words of James Nichols:
“English follows other languages into dark alleys, knocks them on the head, and goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary.”
Seriously, English is, at its base, the language of the Germanic tribes of the Angles and Saxons which conquered the southern two thirds of the island of Great Britain after the Romans departed. The Romans had conquered roughly the same area from the Britonic Celts, cousins to the Gauls on the mainland, and had pretty much stamped out Celtic languages in their area, except for a few wild mountain men in the west and some extremely stubborn inhabitants of marsh and moor in the south west. The Romans built two walls to keep the northern Celts out, and maintained a fleet to keep the Celts from the big island over to the west out. The Angles and Saxons languages gradually became one, flavored with some Celtic. More Germanic tribes, northern Germanic Danes and Norwegians and some Swedes rather than the central Germanic Angles and Saxons, grabbed parts of Britain, and added their varieties of German. Other Norwegians and Danes grabbed parts of the European mainland near Britain, particularly parts occupied by another bunch of central Germans, the Franks, whose language was heavily contaminated by Latin courtesy of the Romans and by local Celtic from the Gauls. Some of those would come across the sea to Britain in 1066. English is a mish-mash of Latin, multiple varieties of Celtic, and multiple types of German. Perhaps people should not expect consistency out of that.
Note: the walls to the north didn’t work. Walls are ineffective as tools for stopping illegal immigration, a fact known even to the Romans… And, come to think of it, the Chinese.
And, oh, ‘kidnap’ was originally ‘kidnab’, and first came to English in the mid to late 17th century. It meant, then, the abduction of children for sale as ‘indentured servants’ in the French and English, not yet British until the Acts of Union in the first decade of the 18th century, colonies in North America and the Caribbean.
I did this once. Got invited to a friends for dinner. Another couple there brought their 2 YO son, but he was sleeping in another room. Went into the other room, saw the 2YO, and hollered “IT’S A KIDNAPPING”.
Pig likely wrote the code to the computer in Computers Don’t Argue [guy has a late library book, Robert Louis Stevenson’s Kidnapped, computer thinks he actually kidnapped somebody, long story short he is executed for a crime he didn’t commit]
Yeah, as a kid and teenager I never really got the whole kidnapping thing when it was adults who were taken. Never understood why it was kidnapping instead of adultnapping. Somehowing I got the suffix -napping meant taking someone against their will but I thought the prefix oughta refer to whether they were a kid or an adult.
English is a language that no real pig speaks, Pig. So I sorta understand your problem, except that you’re a cartoon-pig and do speak a simple form of Basic English (with its 800-word vocabulary)….
BE THIS GUY about 5 years ago
Somebody has to teach Pig how to use a dictionary.
B UTTONS about 5 years ago
And the “nabbers” finally paid the family to take the person back.
Templo S.U.D. about 5 years ago
{groan}
Gent about 5 years ago
No, Rat. It’s called abducted.
PICTO about 5 years ago
English…the language misspoken around the world more than any other.
HarryCK about 5 years ago
Didn’t get back on ’til almost turnover but left responses to some of the comments. These humongous disaster events touch a lot of raw nerves. CO2 in the air is good, if only there were more rain forest acreage to “soak it all up”.
Kind&Kinder about 5 years ago
Anyone else, I would say he was being sarcastic.
nosirrom about 5 years ago
I wonder what Pig wound say about Captain Kidd … I mean Captain Mann
Purple People Eater about 5 years ago
Is a lady-killer a lady who kills, or someone who kills ladies?
jpayne4040 about 5 years ago
Originally, “kidnapped” only described taking kids, while the word “abducted” described taking adults. Not sure when we went off the rails with that, but I agree it doesn’t make much sense.
enigmamz about 5 years ago
He got yoinked!
Differentname about 5 years ago
Some one once said English was really three smaller languages sitting on each other’s shoulders and wearing a big coat.
Breadboard about 5 years ago
Pig tis what happens when your relatives go to the Bacon factory ;-) … Croc Power !
Painted Wolf about 5 years ago
In the words of H. Beam Piper:
“English is the result of Norman men-at-arms trying to chat up Saxon barmaids.”
In the words of James Nichols:
“English follows other languages into dark alleys, knocks them on the head, and goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary.”
Seriously, English is, at its base, the language of the Germanic tribes of the Angles and Saxons which conquered the southern two thirds of the island of Great Britain after the Romans departed. The Romans had conquered roughly the same area from the Britonic Celts, cousins to the Gauls on the mainland, and had pretty much stamped out Celtic languages in their area, except for a few wild mountain men in the west and some extremely stubborn inhabitants of marsh and moor in the south west. The Romans built two walls to keep the northern Celts out, and maintained a fleet to keep the Celts from the big island over to the west out. The Angles and Saxons languages gradually became one, flavored with some Celtic. More Germanic tribes, northern Germanic Danes and Norwegians and some Swedes rather than the central Germanic Angles and Saxons, grabbed parts of Britain, and added their varieties of German. Other Norwegians and Danes grabbed parts of the European mainland near Britain, particularly parts occupied by another bunch of central Germans, the Franks, whose language was heavily contaminated by Latin courtesy of the Romans and by local Celtic from the Gauls. Some of those would come across the sea to Britain in 1066. English is a mish-mash of Latin, multiple varieties of Celtic, and multiple types of German. Perhaps people should not expect consistency out of that.
Note: the walls to the north didn’t work. Walls are ineffective as tools for stopping illegal immigration, a fact known even to the Romans… And, come to think of it, the Chinese.
Painted Wolf about 5 years ago
And, oh, ‘kidnap’ was originally ‘kidnab’, and first came to English in the mid to late 17th century. It meant, then, the abduction of children for sale as ‘indentured servants’ in the French and English, not yet British until the Acts of Union in the first decade of the 18th century, colonies in North America and the Caribbean.
rdav1248961 Premium Member about 5 years ago
If someone takes one of Goat’s young relatives, that individual would indeed be kidnapped.
Zebrastripes about 5 years ago
PIG needs a ((((((((HUG! ))))))))
Courage the Cowardly Dog! about 5 years ago
Was expecting Stephan getting clubbed or clobbered by someone in the last panel.
Linguist about 5 years ago
Fue secuestrado has a much clearer meaning.
Kilrwat Premium Member about 5 years ago
Just go with it. If you think too much about the English language, it will break your brain.
wirepunchr about 5 years ago
Was this mansplaind or ratsplained.
elbow macaroni about 5 years ago
Boring
Ellis97 about 5 years ago
Man-nabbed? Not bad.
Steverino Premium Member about 5 years ago
I did this once. Got invited to a friends for dinner. Another couple there brought their 2 YO son, but he was sleeping in another room. Went into the other room, saw the 2YO, and hollered “IT’S A KIDNAPPING”.
johndifool about 5 years ago
Pig likely wrote the code to the computer in Computers Don’t Argue [guy has a late library book, Robert Louis Stevenson’s Kidnapped, computer thinks he actually kidnapped somebody, long story short he is executed for a crime he didn’t commit]
marilynnbyerly about 5 years ago
Do a search for “kidnap etomology,” or go to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) online.
COL Crash about 5 years ago
He wasn’t kidnapped. He was taken into protective custody by the MIB.
Sherlock Watson about 5 years ago
The original term was “man-grabbing,” but it sounded too much like someone was having fun, so it was changed to “kidnapping.”
Jean Johnston about 5 years ago
Pearls is my favorite, never heard of Foxtrot.?
SIERAGATOR Premium Member about 5 years ago
Both are great! It is not an either-or situation!
knight1192a about 5 years ago
Yeah, as a kid and teenager I never really got the whole kidnapping thing when it was adults who were taken. Never understood why it was kidnapping instead of adultnapping. Somehowing I got the suffix -napping meant taking someone against their will but I thought the prefix oughta refer to whether they were a kid or an adult.
Daeder about 5 years ago
Sounds like a case of assault.
rick92040 about 5 years ago
Foxtrotfanofficial.. Is that you Pastis??
Sisyphos about 5 years ago
English is a language that no real pig speaks, Pig. So I sorta understand your problem, except that you’re a cartoon-pig and do speak a simple form of Basic English (with its 800-word vocabulary)….