My philosophy is, if a doctor said to me, “I’m going to give you a prescription for blahbiddyblah,” I’d say, “That’s nice. I don’t have to fill it.” But first, I’d have to go to a doctor.
A few years ago while visiting my Dr I noted that his name was inscribed in italics with red ink. I asked him if they will be doing it in black once his student loans are paid. Fortunately he has a sense of haha.
They are required to list the side effects, which is a good thing; but in their defense some people will describe bad side effects if you give them a glass of water, or a placebo. But, you can’t just ignore them, of course.
All the commercials on meds… Wiley did a really good take ;-)
Wish I could find a doctor here who 1) speaks English as primary language 2) takes new Medicare patients 3) doesn’t believe all the BS the drug companies put out. I don’t want to take any of that (stuff).
A SHORT HISTORY OF MEDICINE: “Doctor, I have an ear ache.”
2000 B.C. - “Here, eat this root.”
1000 B.C. - “That root is heathen, say this prayer.”
1850 A.D. - “That prayer is superstition, drink this potion.”
1940 A.D. - “That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill.”
1985 A.D. - “That pill is ineffective, take this antibiotic.”
2000 A.D. - “That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root!”
(I received this as a forwarded mail - don’t know the source)
When I was working in Big Pharm, a med that had several million bucks spent on it in development was rejected by the FDA because it caused a mild stomach upset in a few patients.
There were indications that this new med had a tendency to heal arthritic joints.
You spend a few mil on a new drug and its rejected.
You spend a few mil on a new drug and its rejected
you spend a few mil on a new drug and it works.
Everyone calls your company a crook for recovering costs
You invent Viagra, everyone hails your company.
New drug costs too much? Don’t buy it.
Your grandfather lived (or not) without it.
My rare (?) disease requires months on a Caribbean beach
I can’t afford it.
Good answer, Lewreader. So many complaints about the drug companies, but who buys their drugs? If the consumer - that’s you and me - didn’t complain about our aches and pains, and demand a magic bullet solution, the pharmaceutical companies would have no incentive to develop and produce.
Taking 2 aspirin; I’ll call you in the morning.
How does the national medical plan work. Take care of the patient or determine their age first to see if they “deserve’ the care. Unless you are a federal employee, of course.
Federal Employees including Congress have their choice of several insurance plans for which they pay approximately one half. The government pays the remainder. Most of these do not include eye glass or dental coverage. Mine costs about $400 a month. (my portion)
The most expensive pharmaceutical Is a member of the _quin ‘family’ of antibiotics. Makes one suspicious of any drug the Dr, recommends. The pockets of the drug companies, and the Dr get fatter and fatter. The Drs don’t read enough about certain ‘deadly’ drugs, nor do they listen to the patient.
just a few points (some of which were made above by others…)
taking a chemical from laboratory curiosity to FDA approved drug costs something like $100,000,000. many potential drugs are rejected after spending a lot of money on development and testing.
patent protection is for twenty years, but (big but…) the approval process can take upwards of ten years, leaving the drug companies a limited time window to make use of their patent (monopoly) rights.
so when you pay a fortune for a pill, it’s not the cost of manufacturing that pill, but the cost of all the other drugs that didn’t get approved, plus fat profits and bonuses. of course, the bonuses go mostly to people who had very little to do with the actual discovery and development of the drug.
capitalism is a lousy system, but the others are even lousier…
I TAKE OVER 50 SUPPLEMENTS A DAY WHICH HELP KEEP ME DISGUSTINGLY HEALTHY, FOR LESS THAN $200 MO. YUP, NATURAL FOOD IS MUCH CHEAPER WITH ZERO SIDE AFFECTS. I’M 78 AND HAVE 52 YEARS TO GO, WHETHER ANYONE LIKES IT OR NOT!.
glad to see someone made some money off of his discovery - but somehow, I think that’s the exception.
plus we have to consider the many, many people who also contribute to the long, expensive development and testing process, especially for all those tries that don’t pan out.
not to mention the lab animals (and various little bugs getting poisoned in petri dishes…)
elbeck: Your comment resonated with me. I can remember, when I was a child, our family GP coming out to our house some days (or nights) when I or one of my siblings was sick. Pat us on the head, take our temp, and give my folks some pills for us to take. Actual home visits from an actual General Practitioner who actually carried a “little black bag”…
(And, as you mention, it really wasn’t that many years ago.)
Let’s see… Americans are living longer - much longer - than they did 50 years ago; their longer lives are healthier, more disease free; a big reason for this are the drugs developed by pharmaceutical research that Wiley demonizes in this silly, shallow cartoon. Anyone for knee-jerk liberal hack?
To all of you who don’t like your doctor for whatever reason - get your bleeep in gear and find one you like. If your doctor truely doesn’t listen to you - find one who will.
Quit expecting your doctor to make you healthy by some superhuman effort of will. YOU are THE MOST important person responsible for your own care. Take an active part in it and stop whining.
Sorry - sore point with me. But I feel better for having said it.
We already have most of the drugs needed to treat most of the serious problems modern people have, and they are generic.
Now, to make profits, which is the main reason drug companies exist, they create new markets by creating new problems to take drugs for. Most of the new drugs in the past 10 years are targeted to problems such as overeating and sedentary lifestyle which could be avioded or managed without drugs.
It’s one thing to be given drugs for what you are complaining about, it is quite another to be told you must take drugs for something you don’t even have, but may get some day (i.e., Osteoporosis) especially when the side effects can be devastating (i.e., jaw bone deterioration & resultant loss of teeth). I hope that’s not an example of “preventive medicine.”
The only thing I begrudge Big Pharm is the advertising–I know entirely too many people who think they can self-diagnose and drive doctors nuts insisting they have this or that ailment and must have this or that drug they saw advertised, and then declare said doctor incompetent because they didn’t give in to said demands.
Pacejv over 14 years ago
Yet, it will have a very high price tag.
dhubb over 14 years ago
Just like the shoe companies.
Ooops! Premium Member over 14 years ago
Well that’s good! Wouldn’t want too many people running around healthy.
GJ_Jehosaphat over 14 years ago
Listening to some of the side effects on drug commercials would be enough to keep me from asking my doctor if “_” is right for me.
grapfhics over 14 years ago
GJ-J: Notice they start “speed speak” when reading the side effects?
Barbaratoo over 14 years ago
My philosophy is, if a doctor said to me, “I’m going to give you a prescription for blahbiddyblah,” I’d say, “That’s nice. I don’t have to fill it.” But first, I’d have to go to a doctor.
finefox Premium Member over 14 years ago
Restless Leg Syndrom, prehaps?
vexatron1984 over 14 years ago
AH, all my worries are over!
Skeezeeks over 14 years ago
White coat syndrome. Fear of doctors causing a rise in blood pressure and heart rate.
jsprat over 14 years ago
Could those be stock certificates framed on his wall? Perhaps stocks in Pharma Companies?
jsprat over 14 years ago
A few years ago while visiting my Dr I noted that his name was inscribed in italics with red ink. I asked him if they will be doing it in black once his student loans are paid. Fortunately he has a sense of haha.
Potrzebie over 14 years ago
Placebo prescriptions anyone?
gjsjr41 over 14 years ago
Sounds to me that he’s got a LOT to worry about.
steverinoCT over 14 years ago
They are required to list the side effects, which is a good thing; but in their defense some people will describe bad side effects if you give them a glass of water, or a placebo. But, you can’t just ignore them, of course.
vldazzle over 14 years ago
All the commercials on meds… Wiley did a really good take ;-) Wish I could find a doctor here who 1) speaks English as primary language 2) takes new Medicare patients 3) doesn’t believe all the BS the drug companies put out. I don’t want to take any of that (stuff).
attyush over 14 years ago
A SHORT HISTORY OF MEDICINE: “Doctor, I have an ear ache.” 2000 B.C. - “Here, eat this root.” 1000 B.C. - “That root is heathen, say this prayer.” 1850 A.D. - “That prayer is superstition, drink this potion.” 1940 A.D. - “That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill.” 1985 A.D. - “That pill is ineffective, take this antibiotic.” 2000 A.D. - “That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root!”
(I received this as a forwarded mail - don’t know the source)
aerwalt over 14 years ago
When I was working in Big Pharm, a med that had several million bucks spent on it in development was rejected by the FDA because it caused a mild stomach upset in a few patients.
There were indications that this new med had a tendency to heal arthritic joints.
mjlew01 over 14 years ago
ADHD, restless leg. Uromysitisis
Varnes over 14 years ago
I did a lot of pharmaceutical research in my younger days…..
lewisbower over 14 years ago
You spend a few mil on a new drug and its rejected. You spend a few mil on a new drug and its rejected you spend a few mil on a new drug and it works. Everyone calls your company a crook for recovering costs You invent Viagra, everyone hails your company.
New drug costs too much? Don’t buy it. Your grandfather lived (or not) without it.
My rare (?) disease requires months on a Caribbean beach I can’t afford it.
dsom8 over 14 years ago
Good answer, Lewreader. So many complaints about the drug companies, but who buys their drugs? If the consumer - that’s you and me - didn’t complain about our aches and pains, and demand a magic bullet solution, the pharmaceutical companies would have no incentive to develop and produce. Taking 2 aspirin; I’ll call you in the morning.
RadioTom over 14 years ago
Forward this to the Computer Virus in the White House..
Wildmustang1262 over 14 years ago
When the doctor gives the patient the Rx for something the patient has, please do NOT overdose the Rx pills; otherwise, the patient will be BYE-BYE!
kfaatz925 over 14 years ago
Har har har! Good one, Wiley.
EarlWash over 14 years ago
I take half a Viagra a day. Now I don’t pee on my shoes any more.
MatureCanadian over 14 years ago
Ha Ha good one EarlWash!
Wiley, again thank you for another “truth.” Great detail, your art is so fine.
durtclaw over 14 years ago
How does the national medical plan work. Take care of the patient or determine their age first to see if they “deserve’ the care. Unless you are a federal employee, of course.
Justice22 over 14 years ago
Federal Employees including Congress have their choice of several insurance plans for which they pay approximately one half. The government pays the remainder. Most of these do not include eye glass or dental coverage. Mine costs about $400 a month. (my portion)
Trebor39 over 14 years ago
The pharmaceuticals I see advertised have one benefit to help you and enough side effects to kill you.
aerwalt over 14 years ago
Trebor39:
But only if you GET the side effects.
Preschus3 over 14 years ago
The most expensive pharmaceutical Is a member of the _quin ‘family’ of antibiotics. Makes one suspicious of any drug the Dr, recommends. The pockets of the drug companies, and the Dr get fatter and fatter. The Drs don’t read enough about certain ‘deadly’ drugs, nor do they listen to the patient.
zev.farkas over 14 years ago
just a few points (some of which were made above by others…)
taking a chemical from laboratory curiosity to FDA approved drug costs something like $100,000,000. many potential drugs are rejected after spending a lot of money on development and testing.
patent protection is for twenty years, but (big but…) the approval process can take upwards of ten years, leaving the drug companies a limited time window to make use of their patent (monopoly) rights.
so when you pay a fortune for a pill, it’s not the cost of manufacturing that pill, but the cost of all the other drugs that didn’t get approved, plus fat profits and bonuses. of course, the bonuses go mostly to people who had very little to do with the actual discovery and development of the drug.
capitalism is a lousy system, but the others are even lousier…
palenoue over 14 years ago
Here’s a song that fits this comic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgoB2h_Wkco&feature=related
EarlWash over 14 years ago
I TAKE OVER 50 SUPPLEMENTS A DAY WHICH HELP KEEP ME DISGUSTINGLY HEALTHY, FOR LESS THAN $200 MO. YUP, NATURAL FOOD IS MUCH CHEAPER WITH ZERO SIDE AFFECTS. I’M 78 AND HAVE 52 YEARS TO GO, WHETHER ANYONE LIKES IT OR NOT!.
aerwalt over 14 years ago
zev.farkas:
I knew a med discoverer who was put on percentage when his discovery proved out.
That was a PERCENTAGE of the multi-billion$ cororation’s GROSS profits.
zev.farkas over 14 years ago
aerwalt -
glad to see someone made some money off of his discovery - but somehow, I think that’s the exception.
plus we have to consider the many, many people who also contribute to the long, expensive development and testing process, especially for all those tries that don’t pan out.
not to mention the lab animals (and various little bugs getting poisoned in petri dishes…)
Ushindi over 14 years ago
elbeck: Your comment resonated with me. I can remember, when I was a child, our family GP coming out to our house some days (or nights) when I or one of my siblings was sick. Pat us on the head, take our temp, and give my folks some pills for us to take. Actual home visits from an actual General Practitioner who actually carried a “little black bag”… (And, as you mention, it really wasn’t that many years ago.)
sablebrush5 over 14 years ago
Let’s see… Americans are living longer - much longer - than they did 50 years ago; their longer lives are healthier, more disease free; a big reason for this are the drugs developed by pharmaceutical research that Wiley demonizes in this silly, shallow cartoon. Anyone for knee-jerk liberal hack?
DarthSequitur over 14 years ago
To all of you who don’t like your doctor for whatever reason - get your bleeep in gear and find one you like. If your doctor truely doesn’t listen to you - find one who will. Quit expecting your doctor to make you healthy by some superhuman effort of will. YOU are THE MOST important person responsible for your own care. Take an active part in it and stop whining.
Sorry - sore point with me. But I feel better for having said it.
docdan1 over 14 years ago
We already have most of the drugs needed to treat most of the serious problems modern people have, and they are generic.
Now, to make profits, which is the main reason drug companies exist, they create new markets by creating new problems to take drugs for. Most of the new drugs in the past 10 years are targeted to problems such as overeating and sedentary lifestyle which could be avioded or managed without drugs.
And we crave them!
DarthSequitur over 14 years ago
BRAVO docdan1. I think that captures Wiley’s point exactly.
lindz.coop Premium Member over 14 years ago
It’s one thing to be given drugs for what you are complaining about, it is quite another to be told you must take drugs for something you don’t even have, but may get some day (i.e., Osteoporosis) especially when the side effects can be devastating (i.e., jaw bone deterioration & resultant loss of teeth). I hope that’s not an example of “preventive medicine.”
Kaero over 14 years ago
The only thing I begrudge Big Pharm is the advertising–I know entirely too many people who think they can self-diagnose and drive doctors nuts insisting they have this or that ailment and must have this or that drug they saw advertised, and then declare said doctor incompetent because they didn’t give in to said demands.