Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for July 29, 2010

Finally! The one with the AMERICAN hat is telling SP to shut up!

Maybe Sam will get rid of the troublemaker…

“… doesn’t love liberty enough to take on the little girl !”

excuse me, how about your little girl ?

Can we make a cartoon where Obama is going to step on some kittens? Is this guy really this sick?

Is there no one who will bell the cat?

Don’t see her doing anything, just stirring up others then ordering them out on dangerous missions. Hmm, kinda like the Islamic fundamentalists, no?

Busted!

Hmm, child’s play XIII?

There are enough legitimate complaints about Sarah Palin that there is no need to stoop to such silly caricature.

She IS a patriot, she IS concerned with the accelerating growth of government. But sad to say, she is also a religious nut who believes in the Garden of Eden and not Darwin. Also, she’s apparently not too keen on the separation of church and state, which proves that her (and other fundamentalists’) concern for freedom is selective and unreliable.

And don’t get me started on the immorality of purposefully bringing a mentally damaged child into the world. That tells you about her deepest ethics.

Sheik, you’ve listened to Sarah Palin rant at Tea Parties? Can you please tell me at what point in her rant she solicits the crowd for volunteers to murder sleeping children? Like anyone who is concerned about the growing role of government in private lives, I need to know so I can get there on time to raise my hand.

Today’s strip contains a lame joke that lame movies & t.v. shows have overdone. Yes, Sarah Palin and her compatriots have intimated that they might support a violent overthrow of our current administration, but this week’s adventures with the Palin doll are no longer using her own words to hang her, so where is the satire?

Thus, with lame jokes, no satire, and no interesting plot or character development, these strips fail. Some irrational Palin-lusters & Palin-loathers might find entertainment in them, but they would be all.

Pschearer, there is no evidence that Palin is a patriot. In addition, she LOVES the growth of government when it helped Alaska & her ambitions. She claims to hate it now that that stance helps her ambitions, but I can’t imagine that she would tell all parents of children with Down’s that they should receive no government help. I agree that she is willfully ignorant about natural selection & about the constitutional guarantee of religious freedom—still not achieved, despite two centuries of slow progress.

As to her youngest baby, that really is not your business, and labeling him “mentally damaged” is insensitive & inaccurate.

The left is terrified of Sarah Palin. GT invents this absurd storyline, in which she’s supposed to be trying to kill a young girl, who is her strongest supporter. That’s how afraid the left is of her, that it resorts to that.

The left is only terrified that there are enough idiots in this country to actually elect her to an important office… sigh …and they’re probably right (or at least correct).

SP is doing a service. She is the fringe. She opens the eyes of the moderates. When she yells, “Lets end federal social spending, the moderate right is now saying, “Let’s cut social spending.” and the moderate left (gasp!) is saying, “lets examine social spending” “Examine” and “cut” is more palatable to the voting public than “end.”All are happy in Washington. The liberals keep a watered down nanny state, the conservatives can boast, “we cut spending, and the two fringes (remember the left fringe bombs) can scream, “we wus robbed!”

Saw4, these are the only aspects about Sarah Palin that horrify—not terrify—all thinking Americans, which includes almost all progressives and a few regressives:

1.) That our public schools produced such a willfully ignorant person

2.) That the people of Alaska elected her to state-wide office, demonstrating that she has talents to get elected, although she knows almost nothing

3.) That our beloved country barely survived eight years of a willfully ignorant president and is still far from cleaning up the messes he left, so having another might destroy America, which wouldn’t bother Palin for a minute (although most of us know that she is unlikely to run & even less likely to win)

4.) That such a witless person has procreated & parents five children, spreading the thoughtless moral hypocrisy & ill-education for another generation. Palin embodies the film IDIOCRACY.

Enough: This pathetic woman is worth any more of our time. More important: The suicide rate amongst our soldiers has passed the rate among the population as a whole, which includes the high-risk groups. Military suicides are one more legacy of our last witless president. I hope that Palin’s semi-legitimate oldest son, for her sake & her family’s, will not succumb to any suicidal tendencies.

She IS a patriot?????????????????????

This whole thread is pretty lame. I am no Sarah Palin fan, but she’s pretty irrelevant anyway. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Brian: You called Palin “a witless person [who] has procreated & parents five children”.

That sounds like “that really is not your business”.

As for insensitive, that’s why your comments about me don’t bother me.

And as for the tragedy of Down’s, I’ll not argue with someone who must do what he or she must to deal with the burdens of raising such a child, but I believe someone who chooses to give birth to such a child has committed a grave injustice against the child.

Oh, c’mon, Pschearer, you cannot fault Sarah Palin’s giving birth to her youngest unless you fault your parents for giving birth to you.

As for my calling Palin “a witless person has procreated & parents five children”, you took that out of context, Breitbart-wannabe: It was part of an item on a list of those aspects about Palin that horrify thinking Americans. If you cannot quote me correctly, then do not quote me at all.

Dead golum or not, why not continually dig her up from her grave to have the fun of shooting more arrows into her, ala GWB? The recent Sarah-thon simply represents GT following his marching orders and doing what he believes is his part to rally the base. It appears that he didn’t have time to think it through, as he usually does, but for many whom he’s appealing to, it doesn’t matter. Even today, there’s plenty of Thinking Americans ™ wisely nodding their heads at SP advocating child murder and saying “Yup. That’s what Sarah Palin does. $%&@#!Tea Partiers!”

Objectifying hate is going to be a tactic used by both sides in the upcoming elections. “Hope and Change” ain’t gonna work this round. GT is just doing his duty to prime the pump.

The only thing scary about SP is the following scenario: Commander-in-Chief Palin. WW III within 18 months.

WaitingMan, lets hope that with the growing nuclear capability of North Korea and Iran, that doesn’t happen no matter who’s sitting in the big chair. Both the previous and the current administration sat on their hands and let that happen. The time to put pressure on these states was before they had nukes, not after.

Besides, if war was to errupt as a result of actions taken by either state, wouldn’t you actually want Palin leading the troops? As GT has been reminding us this week, she fits the Natural Born Killer profile much better than our current Nobel Peace Prize winner.

Nemesys:

…unless, of course, there are some folks - not MANY, mind you, but some - who just might base their input for poliitcal decisions on something other than the input of a comic strip.

Yathink?

and here I was hoping the other toys would refrain from harming the girl rather than being quiet only because Big Sister was there. Palin is the killer on the pin-up calendar - still a real and present danger, with her kid on the cover of People Magazine…..oh yesssss.

The only reason she’s on People is because she fit the “Stupid Whore” profile that’s required to make the cover.

BrianCrook, since when do the “progressives” have to use Palin’s own words to pillory her? The most well-received and most wide-spread comment during the campaign, you know “I can see Russia from my back yard” was made by Tina Fey portraying Ms. Palin and not Ms. Palin herself. And yet how long did the uproar last when Joe Biden talked about FDR going on TV after the stock market crash to assure the people that things would be all right? After the first 2 days it became invisible. And your point about public schools producing the likes of Ms. Palin is simply the “progressives” reaping the fruits of what they’ve sewn in American public schools over the last 50 years. The dumbing down of America has much more to do with the regressive, excuse me “progressive” ways of teaching inclusion and diversity and political correctness instead of fundamentals of reading, math and science, than it does with the current rift over whether “intelligent design” should be taught alongside evolution. Don’t get me wrong, inclusion and diversity are good things. The melting pot of cultures in the US is in my opinion, a major factor in the nation’s development into the economic and global power it is (for now), but teaching that to kids who need to learn to read and write and to think does a disservice to the kids and the nation which may be forced to support them as they age because they are unprepared to do any sort of meaningful labor which involves something more complicated than putting a sandwich together.

I wouldn’t dare.

Yes, Nashville, but Garry does his part as one of many instruments in the MainStream Media Orchestra. As noted, he’s out early playing a solo, priming the pump… look for more substantial anti-Tea Party pieces to come soon in the AP, NY Times and NBC News. Once the emotional context is set, the Thinking Americans ™ will take over.

The left is all about timing and solidarity, and I have to give them due credit for honing their techniques into amazing political Perfect Storms. However, since the vast majority of their constituents have a hard time understanding concepts (except the idea of “entitlement”) but have been trained to vilify people, Rule 11 is going to be the problem for them this time. Even among the hardcore, blaming Bush is getting passé (there are exceptions) nobody (including Republicans) even remembers who McCain is, so they’re stuck with Palin to objectify into Everything You Hate About The Right.

This can backfire, for 2 reasons – first, simply keeping Palin in the spotlight gives her credibility (this may be intentional, although Obama himself never mentions her these days in hopes she goes away), and secondly, the credibility of the message suffers when the things she’s accused of make no sense. As we’ve witnessed even on this board, that doesn’t often matter, as Thinking Americans ™ will raise their hands and say “Yes, I’ve heard her say that!”.

Palin isn’t running for anything, and probably won’t (although I wouldn’t be shocked if she ends up running sometime as a senator from a red state, as Clinton moved to New York and did successfully via sheer name recognition).

Psc wrote: ” She IS a patriot”

How in the world can anyone who hates America so much that she advocates changing everything the Founders came up with be called a patriot?

…and the secret is out. Wait until Mommy hears this!

Nemesys, your assertion that G.B. Trudeau is “following his marching orders” is without basis. Stick to what you know. It is interesting, however, that you equate Sarah Palin, an ineffective semi-term governor with Bush-Dick, whom you supported for eight years & who led America to the brink of ruin. Do you consider Bush-Dick as actually as ineffective as Palin?

As to your choice of Palin as a warlike leader, let me remind you that great war-leaders, Churchill & T. Roosevelt, also won Nobel Peace Prizes.

Nola, you need to catch up. We discussed Tina Fey’s version of Palin’s own idiocy last week. Vice-President Bide has made many misstatements but has also shown that he has a brain in his head (look back at his “debate” with a parroting, winking Palin for evidence). Everyone speaks badly, but the intelligent often speak well. G.W. Bush & Palin solely misspoke; there are no balancing intelligent remarks.

As for your assertions about public schools, you demonstrate no knowledge of the rampant difficulties of public education. It has tried to survive years of financial starvation & political manipulation, among many other problems. Do your research, and you could learn a great deal about the myriad difficulties of the public education system.

Like I said really late in yesterday’s thread…if the Palin doll were as cognizant of her immediate surroundings as the Toy Story menagerie is, she’d know which member of the household isn’t fond of Palin dolls.

This week’s series is really dumb.

It could get less dumb if Palin doll catches Roland Hedley’s reportage on Joe McGinniss. “Boopsie, there’s an order for 50 Sarah Palin dolls on our Visa statement, and they were all shipped to Wasilla…”

Defining “Neolib” (again):

A couple of weeks ago, when I found “Neolib” being used on this site, I could see the users were unfamiliar (or unconcerned) with “neoliberalismo,” the inexorable commercial-political movement towards globalization.

“Neolib,” as used on this blog, clearly does not refer to the crypto-fascist globalists who, outside the U.S., call themselves neoliberals (in the U.S., they’re ignored, except by The Society for American Sovereignty). It refers rather to pseudo-liberals whose liberalism is based mainly on a hatred of G.W. Bush.

Neolib (henceforth I’ll name her only to identify pseudo-liberal political remarks and never to attack genuine liberalism, which I respect) turned up last Monday to assert ludicrously that G.W. Bush not only served as an unelected president his first term but also won only “what appears to be a victory” with his decisive majority in 2004.

Among today’s comments, Neolib has resurrected the absurd pretense that government policy is actually influenced by comic strips like this one. No doubt the GoComics archives preserve somewhere Neolib’s fatuous conjecture that Bush Jr. went to war in Iraq to rescue the “manhood” that Doonesbury had taken from Bush Sr. Neolib’s speculation comparing Obama with the cartoon Palin is just another stroke of derivative (or pseudo) liberalism. In this case, it reveals Neolib’s desire to displace the presidency by a surrogate, something a liberal who knows politics would not seriously contemplate.

I posted awfully late last night so I shall paste it here.

Mr. Trudeau is not saying SP is advocating killing children. That is the doll talking……… The doll is the villain here.

Sorry for the late comment.

I think the doll will be toast when Trudy lets it all sink in. A shame when it just represented a role figure to a little girl.

Thanks palin drome for trying to clarify my statement about where the doll was made as Mr Trudeau puts into today’s script, the doll asking for another toy with toxic paint, maybe? to do the dirty deed. Cheers and …………

BrianCrook, what I know is that the president has begun campaigning for the fall, and that GT works very diligently to support the president’s agenda. I’ll retract the “marching orders” comment to the extent that Garry takes his own initiatives on such things, even as he famously sent strips to publishers championing Obama’s election victory before Election Day.

As to the Bush question, I must admit disappointment with him. He wasn’t able to initiate important Social Security reforms, did nothing to slow down illegal immigration, allowed Congress (both parties) to overspend while abusing the banking and housing markets for personal gain, wasn’t aggressive enough (until the Surge) in Iraq, and got the ball rolling on government-sponsored bailouts that the the next administration brought to insane levels. In short, Bush’s greatest failures were when he adapted progressive positions, which he did presumably to mollify his political opposition, who (correctly) read it as weakness and tore him limb from limb as a result.

The usual cr@p about Iraq, WMD’s, destroying the economy, that he gets tagged with was a partnership effort with his Congresses, and they deserve as much of the blame as he did for them. What irks me is the dishonesty of that side of the isle not taking responsibility for their end, and the media actively supporting that position as if it were true.

What I’m mostly disappointed about re: Bush is his squandered opportunity that I’ve never seen anyone else talk about. Spock’s “Only Nixon could go to China” wisdom has substance. Being from an oil family, and with a strong economy during much of his tenure, he was in the best position of any US president ever to initiate strong energy reforms that would get us away from Middle East and offshore oil dependency… but he never went there. Similarly, Obama is in the ultimate position to create true race relations improvement, but instead he’s squandered race as political payback leverage and has gone in the opposite direction.

As one who voted for Bush in ‘04 and Obama in ‘08, I can endorse the measured political comments that Nemesis made an hour ago. And I predict that Neolib, if she undertakes to answer him with another of her spurious attacks on Bush, will equate the president with her ideological bogey Cheney.

Nemesys, you may also “know” that Martians are talking through your aluminum-foil hat, but it ain’t so. You have no evidence that G.B. Trudeau works “to support the president’s agenda”. You also distort the DOONESBURY strips of November 2008. They did not “champion” President Obama’s victory. Trudeau saw that Obama was overwhelmingly likely to win, so he wrote strips using that likelihood. He was right, right?

You are correct that Bush-Dick did not ruin America single-handedly. He had eight years of Republican Congresses before him and six years with him. He & the Republican Congresses encouraged off-the-books spending for two unnecessary wars, and he & the Republican Congresses ballooned the intelligence budget enormously. He & the Republican Congresses ran a surplus into a deficit. He & the Republican Congresses pulled back on regulating banking & housing & drilling, trusting Big Business & Big Oil to regulate themselves, and we are left with the worst economy since the Great Depression & the worst oil slick in history as results.

Bush-Dick’s failures, in conjunction with the Republican Congresses, were hardly progressive. They were corrupt & stupid. I do agree with you that instead of bending over & slaughtering children in the service of Big Oil, he should have initiated increased progress in alternative energy, but, let’s face it: G.W. Bush was the pawn of Dick Cheney & other aging oily Republican cronies. Bush-Dick planned to invade Iraq before al-Qaeda struck on 9/11. The Bush-Dick administration had three goals: tax cuts for the wealthy, oil money, & military money. They fulfilled them all, and we will pay the price for another generation.

As for asking President Obama to fix race relations in the U.S.: My god, doesn’t the man have enough to do? He inherited the worst situation of any president since Abraham Lincoln and he has a wimpy Senate that refuses to stand up to its nay-saying minority. Ask Michael Steele to fix race relations instead of palling around with that honest man, Andrew Breitbart.

BRIAN Always good to see you support the Prez. He Promised to get us out of GITMO in a year–Long year He Promised we would get us out of IRAQ next month–right He promised to redistribute the wealth–working man to lazy He promised to end partisanship government–Then forced Health Care down our throats He said “the buck stops here on the oil spill–Then refused help from people in the know He accepted a Nobel peace Prize two weeks before sending 30,000 to war. I guess when you have only 4 years experience, it takes 4 years to learn the ropes

“…., she IS concerned with the accelerating growth of government.”

And you can point to specific instances in her (thankfully) short political career that support this statement?

The real Sarah didn’t advocate the killing of children, of course. Instead, she suggested that gun owners aim at Democrat politicians.

jack75287 said “He [Obama] has divided this country worse then any recent president.”

Lewreader said: “He [Obama] promised to end partisanship government”

When Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham, Neal Boortz, Mike Huckabee, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Charles Krauthammer, Liz Cheney, Bill Kristol, Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy, Newt Gingrich, Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, and George Will … ALL relentlessly repeat anti-Obama talking points,

and ALL congressional Republicans relentlessly repeat the same anti-Obama talking points,

there is no power on earth that can ‘undivide’ the country and ‘end partisanship’.

Wise man sez Democrats are the party of hate, Republicans are the party of fear. Lots of hate against SP.

Commentator, and neither is the party of the people at this point in time.

Nixon, right?