Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for April 17, 2016

WHO should stop building walls?The US to stop the invasion from the south?Israel to continue the reduction of terrorists entering their country?

Or the other 63 countries in the world who want to protect their citizens from those who would destroy them?Every nation has a right to defend itself. Without walls, there are no nations.

very seussian

Radar, Without walls there are no nations? You mean if we don’t build a wall, France wouldn’t exist any more? I’m confused;….Besides, it is almost impossible to get a job or get any benefits if you are illegal. I worked in agriculture for a decade….If you hire somebody without a SS card, you get in big trouble…..The problem really isn’t as bad as you think it is, though…The number of illegals coming into the country has dropped precipitously in the last few years, and tens of thousands have been shipped back, in record numbers in the last few years, in record numbers…..Calm down, go to the store and buy some compassion….You’re supply is getting low….BTW, at least 63 countries in the world are terrified of Trump, Cruz, and all the rest…Can’t say I blame them…..I am too….

what (s)he said.

I get this, and it’s spot on.

Our society has become so quick to take sides on any and every issue, that all one has to do is become the issue. People will compulsively line up on one side or the other of that wall. As debate among the masses ensues, that debate generates more supporters for each side, who recruit more supporters, and so on. At that point it has become a false dichotomy.

Looks like Wiley is trying to inject politics into a cartoon which is a no no, unless it is a political cartoon. He can loose a lot or readers that way. Besides there are places where he can put his political cartoons.

The tRump wants to build a wall.How will he pay for it?He’ll make Mexico pay for it.How will Mexico pay for it?They’ve already provided the illegal alien labor force.

Hardly anyone ever talks about the root problem: Mexico is broken. It has too little market freedom and too much organized crime and corruption. A wall is just a temporary measure that ignores long-term solutions.

@ meowlinWithout nations there would be no wars? What about Tribal wars, gang wars, revolutions and genocide. I think they have killed more people than any war between nations since WWII

Not a real wall but a metaphorical one. Every brick is an opinion on how people differ and which difference is better. It’s a wall of prejudice, intolerance and fear.

“And just like that, another Sunday is ruined.”

Now you need to do one showing Hillary as the Wicked Witch of the West……

In a perfect world we need no borders and John Lennon’s “Give Peace a Chance” is the world anthem. Unfortunately that is not reality. The US does not need a wall to keep Canadians from crossing our border in droves, but we still have to be vigilant to protect our sovereignty. That is the duty of every government, or that government will cease to exist.

Thank you, Wiley.

Well done, Mr. Miller.

Human history is a funny thing. Once upon a time here in Texas, the legal and illegal immigrants refused to learn the national language, refused to send their children to state schools, refused to recognise local custioms, took jobs and resources from the citizenry.Sound familiar? These immigrants were mostly Anglos fleeing from a broken country, the United States, seeking freedom, land and wealth.Oh yeah, they took our women, too.Go back another couple of hundred years before that and re-play the whole scenario. Anglos again fleeing tyranny, stealing an entire continent from its legal inhabitants.Go back another 20 centuries and the Anglos/Caucasians over ran Europe, displacing the inhabitants, the Neanderthals.Human history repeats itself, over and over again.Now, if instead of building walls, why don’t we work on solving the problems? The solution to Mexicos drug problem is for the citizens of the United States to stop using drugs. I suppose if Mexico suddenly stopped all drug traffic into the US, the US would go to war with Mexico to make them sell US drugs. China once stopped selling opium to the British, the Brits went to war with China, fo force the Chinese to sell them opium.Human history is a funny thing………..

“He drew a circle that shut me out. Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout. But love and I had the wit to win. We drew a circle and took him in.”

Wish I could take credit, but it was Edwin Markham who said it first. The sentiment and meaning, however, I fully support and embrace.

Dump Trump, Lose Cruz! Enuf said.

Cmon Wiley, a Yankee poet stated, “good fences make good neighbors.” I guess living in Maine hasn’t rubbed off on you. Then again, Maine has taxes that Taxachusetts hasn’t thought about……

Spot on!! Apropos “we aren’t responsible for Mexico’s problems”: That’s false. Through our commercial imperialism (see: Chiquita Banana aka United Fruit destroying Central American agriculture, NAFTA destroying Mexican agriculture and so much more) and our lame brained “War on Drugs” (Thanks, Dick, Ron and Nancy) we have thoroughly destabilized our southern neighbours’ societies.“He drew a circle that shut me out:Heretic, rebel, thing to flout,But love and I had the wit to winWe drew a circle that took him in”-——— Edwin Markham

I am not going to debate this because the comics is no place for it, but you are wrong on soooooo many levels. The entire Middle East want Israel wiped off the map. They refuse to be exterminated. Cannot blame them for this.

Actually, it was Robert Frost and the poem questioned whether fences were a good idea:

“Before I built a wall I’d ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense.”

Healthy boundaries are required for a healthy psyche and nation. There are those who would do to this country what the AIDS virus does to the human body. BTW, the movement to raise the minimum wage to $15 is really to encourage more illegal immigrantion, which is a subsidy to business. Immigration reform is about making the Hispanic our replacement for the black. The Democrats have succeded in destroying the black family and they will do the same to the Hispanic. Walls protect as well as exclude. Wiley shows his cognitive imparedness by his all or nothing thinking.

Before there were countries there were wars. People build walls when they feel threatened. Emotional, psychological, physical walls. There are walls in countries; walls in cities; walls in towns; walls in the homes. The politicians build walls to sustain themselves. There are walls built on laws. Walls built on hate. Walls built on good intentions with bad unintended consequences.Everyone hates someone or something. Everyone has a cause that builds walls. Whites hate blacks. Blacks hate whites (and please don’t tell me that isn’t so). Israeli’s fear an enemy. Muslims hate Israelis. Muslims hate everyone that isn’t Muslim. All in generic terms. There are those in each situation that try and break the walls of fear and perception. The minority. This has always been true throught human history and we are no closer to any solution than was true 4000 years ago. There are just more of us to contribute to the problem. One thing is absolutely true – I COME TO THE FUNNIES TO ESCAPE THIS DAILY CRAP! NOT TO HAVE IT POUNDED ON ME AGAIN. If there is no where to turn, even for a moment, to just laugh, then why come at all? Time to find another comic to replace this one.

mjmcomm : you seem to see nothing but hate. goodbye. and hope you come back with new eyes.

I’ve found that those most guilty of hate are inevitably those who proclaim that others are haters.

Mr Miller. I stop reading comics when they stop being funny. They stop being funny when they become political.

No welfare state, no problem. If you insist on a welfare state we’re going to need walls.

There are too many walls in America.

I love being lectured to by a comic strip. Try being “funny”, that’s why people read the funnies!

All true, but it doesn’t scan……

Wiley is probably enough of a pragmatist that he lives in a home with walls. But we can be pretty sure his conscience won’t let him lock his doors or put his money in a bank. Yep. Pretty sure of that.

It must be nice to have a forum to assume facts not in evidence.

@Robert Nowall

It must be nice to be a republican for whom the facts don’t ever seem to matter, or even exist, in some cases.

Go, wiley!!!! Also, OldTexan75: right on. . .

If the egg is Trump, shouldn’t he have hair?

Everybody thought Hitler was a joke, too. And you see how funny he turned out to be.

I agree with handymanherb. My political leanings are very different from Wiley"s but I read him because I find his work both funny AND insightful. Today, not so much.

I’ll bet that you have not been on the border. Ask those property owners who live along the border about walls.

These folks cannot safely go outside without carrying firearms to protect themselves. Their property is damaged and items stolen by the ILLEGAL immigrants.

Put up a REAL HIGH wall with lots of electricity running through it. That would slow down the ILLEGAL activities.

Wow. So much hate in Wiley.

OK, my bad…

From the comments here, it’s clear Conservatives have no understanding of what a metaphor is, and are incapable of introspection.

So it was foolish of me to think that they might be capable of empathy, or understand the rise of fascism or the U.S. Constitution, or have the capacity to see beyond their own wants and fears and feelings.

I apologize, and will try to appropriately dumb-down things for them in the future.

Racist!

Not funny. Way too political for a COMIC strip. It should be on the political cartoons page.

“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall.” ~ Ronald Reagan

@OldTexan75Actually, the war between China and Britain was over China trying to limit/eliminate imports of opium grown on British plantations India. China saw it was causing a huge drug problem with its people. Britain, on the other hand, wanted to force China to accept the opium sales, as it otherwise had a huge trade deficit due to the high demand for Chinese silk and porcelains in Europe.

It’s a well versed metaphor.

To paraphrase Robert Frost:

“Good walls make good neighbors.”

Much harder in today’s world to build a wall. Physical walls stop the body. The flow of data and ideas needs to be blocked also or people (gasp) might learn the truth about their own leaders and other people and find out things aren’t what they’ve been told.

Sigh! This about the political division in the country; democrats vs republicans. The problem is he used only Trump. The division has been there long before Trump, democrats are extreme left, republicans extreme right; we’ll never get along politically until the parties are disassembled. The problem is people in general don’t view the independent parties as real solutions and would rather vote for a lame person in “their” party than a lame person from the other party.Wiley, potentially a good comic but lame because you only used one party (but then you fall into my above statement and are lame). Would have been much better showing two eggs on walls, one as you did, the other a witch with a rain storm ready to hit. Ah well Wiley, maybe you’ll someday become true and hit both parties for thei failures

Thank you, WIley.We can only hope Trumpty Dumpty falls.-Never trust a man who literally lives in a tower looking down on the rest of us.

How do we fix Mexico’s problem?

So there you have it. And only few even read it or at least comprehend. Can we know the solution or answer the dilemma? Only if we read what he said and not what our ego is saying; totally ignoring his message; and I mean Wiley, not Humpty.

Done with this strip.

omg, why the hell are so many people taking “walls” literally instead of metaphorically, which is certainly what Wiley must have meant.

Wow, you really hit a nerve this morning Mr Wiley. Keep on, keeping on. :DOn a side not (forgive me if I’ve said it before), Mexico and Canada may yet build those walls, not to keep their people in, but to keep us out. Sad really. We came so close to getting it. BTW, the bullies like using fear, because when people are scared they use more primal reflexes and turn off their ability to think past the moment.

“Longed for a time when only white men had rights.” Straw man argument. If you really think that any of the candidates long for such a time or that such a time ever even existed in the United States, back it up with some facts.

The truth is, all of the candidates are about taking rights away. All of them support some sort of limits on the First Amendment. Some want to enslave you more by seizing more of your hard-earned earnings and giving them to people who they think deserve them more than you do. Others want to limit your freedom to travel.

No candidate supports basic freedoms.

Brilliant. Thank you Mr. Miller.

one poem deserves another, and therefore……….-———————————————————————-Trump for President, hooray!Made money the old-fashioned wayHe’s rich ‘cause he was born that wayBut Donnie’s insane policyWill drain the blood from you and me(Let’s face it, every plutocratIs nothing but a vampire bat)

Trump! That worthless bozo bigotSpews raw sewage from that spigotOf his mouth. And Donnie’s brainsHave derailed like defective trainsFor this there is no healing lotionDonnie’s just a loco-motion

And little Donnie has the gallTo lie ‘bout who will pay for WallThere’s NO chance that it’s MexicoNor even men from TexacoNor China, nor Korea (North)But what the hell, let’s sally forth!(Who’s Sally Forth? The girl that DonIs strenuously cheating onHe also cheats on wifey, tooWho’s Wifey Three—remember, do!)

For bankruptcies Trump counts to fourAnd yet more sins—so many more!But let me summarize my screedThe evil Trump’s a fiend, indeed

Touché

I miss the bears.

Just removed this anti American cartoon from my list.

Thank you, sir.

“Something there is that doesn’t love a wall …” Robert Frost

I hope many here heard Garrison Keillor’s wonderful re-write of Poe’s The Raven yesterday. “Quoth the Raven, Trump”

A genius created this Piece today!!!!

Brilliant!

Here’s a thought; just start building the wall.If Trump wins, we’ll use it to keep people out.If Sanders wins, we’ll use it to keep corporations, and people with a lot of money that we can tax, in.

The cartoonist is illustrating the wall we’ve constructed between ourselves, within our nation, between Democrat and Republican, between Conservative and Liberal. The wall that prevents compromise in a democracy and thus prevents effective government of the People, by the People, and for the People. THAT wall.

@bonasSo, disliking trump is the equivalent of being anti-Amerian? Where have we heard that before, where the national greeting had a man’s name in it? Of course, you’re no longer here to read this. By the way, for all those quoting “good fences make good neighbors”, the one who said that was not the hero of the poem.

pretty moronic, this one.

A note about the Berlin Wall. It was designed to keep people in.

There are literal walls and there are metaphorical walls. The enlightened mind seeks to abolish the latter. The practical mind recognizes the need for the former. A country has an obligation to secure its borders. Look no further than the chaos in Europe to gain an appreciation of that.

Beautiful!!

Liberal lunacy leads to cultural suicide.

Wiley, you Fraud!

Kids, this is what a liar looks like

The hair -you forgot the hair.Put it on a bear so we may compareand see if the bear in it’s lair can make us despair.

So teriifyingly true!!

What scares me is how willing this country is to accept the beginnings of fascism.

Thank you, Wiley

fences make good neighbors, someone said.

Isn’t this just Trumpty Dumpty…

Wow, 127 comments. I wonder if anyone read all of them …not me. But here is the 128th comment. I’m going to take a wild guess and say it’s as pointless as the preceding 127 :-)

LOVE IT! Sent it to everyone in my address book, Democrats and Republicans alike…..

You don’t need to build a wall. Just put a 20% tax on the transfer of funds from the US to Mexico. Other countries have currency export laws, why not the US? Remove the profit from illegal entry and work and the problem will go away. The anger about all of this is the wall.

Love me some Wiley!

Well done, Wiley, thank you.

Three things.1. Mr Trump has no assocation with the KKK, so the sheet costume was way over the top.2. I do not recall a strip circa 2008, calling Mr Obama to account for 20 years of worshipping at the atlar of Jeremiah Wright who preached hate whites, hate Jews and hate America. Did you have one?3. When you go out of your house – work, shopping, vacation – do you you leave your doors and windows unlocked?

ABSOLUTELY L O V E I T!!!!!

A good citizen obeys the law, pays taxes, speaks the language of commerce, minds their own business and protects to the best of their ability those citizens placed in peril by those who do none of those things. Pay your dues then criticize. Black lives do NOT matter to, they matter TOO (also). Only 13% identify themselves as black in this nation. The Jew was enslaved 400 years in Egypt, Rome enslaved their conquered for centuries longer. Some of my people were rubbed out of existence by invaders. So 250 years as slaves does not entitle any one group any extra rights, especially after 50 years of unprecedented special treatment meant to equalize the effects of slavery. Life’s a bitch and then you die: there are no safe zones on this earth. History continually repeats itself so don’t get run over by it while walking and texting. Wake up!!

The fall is coming

What you (and nearly everyone else here) seems to have missed is that this strip has absolutely nothing to do with a border wall. It is about the metaphorical walls we build between people, and the people who gain power from these divisions..

a rather delightful comic … which of course attracts attackers and defenders, erecting “walls” spontaneously …

If “walls” had a shred of credibility as viable defenses, we would see thousands of examples in the natural world, as a great many critters are territorial.

But ants do not build walls, nor bees, nor wasps, spiders, crows, bears, lions, tigers, monkeys, or snakes … only humans are foolish enough to build walls to hide behind.

The Repooblican party has largely made this mess, by targeting extremist groups who will support anyone who backs their cause, and so we see a patchwork of my-way-or-the-highway planks comprising their party platform, with Democraps watching their opposite numbers build insane jenga towers with a great many planks that will not bear the weight of scrutiny … they make a little noise, but do nothing to counter their fellow psychopaths’ strategies, until their opponents are too deeply entrenched to regroup, and then they counter with walls of their own, matching fear for fear the creaky towers of the Repooblicans.

Why do they do this? Because they think that by toppling the Republican towers of paranoia at the last moment, they can slide past almost anything, rather than have a buffoon who cannot shout two sentences sequentially that do not contradict each other, or are clearly representative of ignorant, mindless insanity, or his primary opponent, who would effortlessly slide into place as a card-carrying member of ISIS, where those who do not immediately fall in line with his own brand of bigotry are beheaded.

The Democrats LOVE opposing Trump and Cruz, and want them as far out in front in the Republican primary as possible. The Dems feel that with an opponent like either of the leading Republican candidates, they don’t really require much of a platform, and can run campaigns that are just as directionless as those of the Repooblicans (but a few decibels quieter, and not nearly so threatening). The Republicans will supply all the fear needed to bring billions pouring in via PACs.

Oh, for the days of old, where Republican meant a fiscal conservative, who supplied the “because the funds are not present” argument to the Democraps “let’s do this …” (there has not been a Republican President or Congress in the past half-century that balanced spending with matching taxation).

But those days are long gone (if they ever existed at all). All we have today are “walls”.

Oh, one observation on the efficacy of “walls” … walls did not keep El Chapo contained … he merely had a tunnel dug to his cell. No walls will stop the drug traffickers from bringing drugs into the US (in exchange for guns and money), they use tunnels that we cannot detect, because they are sufficiently deep.So much for walls.

Brilliant – this should be turned into a mural!

It’s pretty obvious that many conservative voters just say the talking points that they get from the right wing media……almost all of them are bald face lies, and innuendo…..But they never seem to be able to explain the details of their arguments, for some reason…. so they revert to calling people names, like a 4th grader would…..“He started it!”…"You are a far, far, far, far, far ,way far out there, left wing nut, or in other words you are a Libtard…What great argument that is,eh?…..It’s very unseemly for grown men to act so childish…They are bringing shame on every American everywhere…. And scaring civilized people the world over…

Great ‘toon, Wiley! It’s sad that a lot of people don’t recognize that it’s about the “us versus them” mentality whipped up by certain politicians, not the type of literal walls that didn’t work for the Han or Hadrian.

thank you Wiley!!! BRILLIANT!!!and to hell w/everybody defending Drumpf and his puerileracist, fascist xenophobic hatred

Frost actually warned against the dangers of walls in his poem, and like those on the right waving the Constitution, they take only what they want out of context, and throw away the real meaning, and truth with it.

I go to read comics to forget about all the junk going on in the world for a little while. I DON’T want comics dragging politics and other depressing stuff into the “funny pages”

A comic strip is the perfect place for observing the human condition. Thank you, Mr. Miller.

Pretty Cool!

Good fences make good neighbors.

“Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall!”

Perhaps Wiley should comment as well on the walls that have been built during the last 7.5 years or so by the messiah in chief.

Mexico says the US shouldn’t build a wall to keep Mexicans in Mexico, Mexico has extremely strict immigration laws and treat illegal immigrants from further south far worse than the US would ever actually treat them.

Really, you’re not Doonesbury, can we not escape the politics for a couple of minutes with the Sunday funnies. I get to spend a few minutes and relax with the comics and get hit with this. You should move to the editorial page if this is what you want to do.

So build the wall and sit Trumpty up there to guard it.

Nailed it, sir. You nailed it!

You’re right. We should stop building walls on the southern border, and instead, set up shooting ranges to take out anyone stupid enough to try to sneak in. Uncontrolled immigration is stupid and slow suicide.

Oh, it’s Humpty Trumpty! >:P

And yet another a— speaks what’s left of his mind after drinking “the koolaid” of liberality

I find this cartoon to be very racist,, you imply that all white people are evil, I take umbrage.

Trump’s appeal is not to “white supremacists,” rather he appeals to a disenfranchised, vilified group of citizens who can’t find a job in our anti-meritocracy, out-sourced society. They represent the only cohort in the world where suicide rates are rising. The comic is accurate, but enough of the vilification, the tribalism and decisive use of white men.

Hallucinogenic comics?

The walls around the mind.

Excellent commentary today Mr. Wiley!

Mexico does not send people across the boarder. People cross the boarder looking for a better life. Many have gone back in recent years as they are growing and the bullies are still trying to squash those of us who won’t work for food and fight for a share in the pie.I know,day late,dollar short,but sheeshpeople, really?

that should have read, their economy is growing and the bullies here (think Koch brothers)

And now it is 2023 and the world is in chaos because of illegal immigration, drug cartels, and terrorists… all because good nations didn’t protect their borders or uphold their immigration laws. How silly the previous comments look in today’s context.