It’s bizarre when someone says someone violated their freedom of speech, because their post is removed because they called someone the “c—-t” word or something like that. Weirdos.
Yep, nice little loophole. They’re not a commons, so they can censor. But they’re not a publisher either, so they can’t be sued for content. And now they dominate public discourse. How to crush the First Amendment without violating it.
True story. Someone on Reddit was bummed out that Twitter could deny people service. I told him he was a Pinko who wanted government controlling private companies.
Well, when you join, you do click the “I agree” box that tells them it’s okay, among other things, to delete your posts or your account if they want to. You can’t really complain that they did something you gave them explicit permission to do.
The 1st Amendment is the law expressing the societal value of free speech as it applies to the government. Facebook may violating the principle of free speech by moderating for viewpoint as they hold themselves to be an open forum.
Some common ground here, though. Conservatives: This is one more reason why companies should not be allowed to get too large, and why you need a healthy public sector.
If everything is privatized, freedom of speech – in fact, the entire 1st Amendment – ceases to exist.
Goat makes an interesting point. If a Christian (or a member of any other religion) prays in a public place, he is not violating anybody’s first amendment rights, but if somebody sues him for it, and the court finds in the plaintiff’s favor, then the court is violating the Christian’s first amendment rights, because it is a branch of the government.
Yes, if your deity is Erra, an Akkadian plague god of the eighth century BCE, the god of mayhem and pestilence who is responsible for periods of political confusion.
No Rat, they’re just a business with the Freedom to set their own Rules of Engagement just like any other one. You know, like “No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service”.
If you don’t like their rules you can take you’re free to take your business somewhere else.
The right hates Facebook and Twitter because they consider it censorship to flag lies and ban liars. The left hates them because they don’t do it enough. Regardless of what you think of the value of social media, you must admit the companies have to walk a very fine line.
Yes, but social media platforms like Facebook are operating, supposedly, for benefit of the public — all the public. In fact, they could be regulated as utilities and their suppression of free speech ended. Imagine if your electric utility could cut you off because they don’t like your politics.
Not a government (yet). Certainly not a deity (maybe a demon). But too darn big for their britches. Zuck needs to be down-sized, maybe through anti-trust legislation….
Prodigy and Compuserve did the same in their day; they wiped out dissent. The Internet was supposed to change that, and did wipe out those two. It looks like we forgot our history, so we are condemned to repeat it.
BE THIS GUY almost 4 years ago
Only if you choose to worship it.
B UTTONS almost 4 years ago
More like an occult.
rk almost 4 years ago
At this point they’re more like a country.
Bilan almost 4 years ago
Facebook provides a service.
The government . . . oh, never mind.
BasilBruce almost 4 years ago
(Holding some garlic and a bottle of holy water) “Stay back, Facebook! I condemn thee to the Pit!”
Renatus Profuturus Frigeridus Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Facebook is loosing time, I’d say.
retrocool almost 4 years ago
they think they are
marilynnbyerly almost 4 years ago
Only in Zuck’s mind.
sirbadger almost 4 years ago
They spend millions on lobbyists so they sort of are our government.
Concretionist almost 4 years ago
They’re more like a vampire, seems to me.
Alexander the Good Enough almost 4 years ago
Every breath you take,
Every move you make,
Every bond you break,
Every step you take,
Zuck is watching you…
Every single day,
Every word you say,
Every game you play,
Every night you stay,
Zuck is watching you…
Big Brother terrorized people and forced himself on them. Big Zuck et al. has seduced people into being taken advantage of. Better? Maybe?
Vivi <333 almost 4 years ago
Facebook, honestly in my opinion is what adults use, whereas Instagram more teens use
Baarorso almost 4 years ago
Zuckerberg’s platform….Zuckerberg’s rules, you could say. :/
ronaldspence almost 4 years ago
They think so…
blunebottle almost 4 years ago
LIKE.
Caldonia almost 4 years ago
It’s bizarre when someone says someone violated their freedom of speech, because their post is removed because they called someone the “c—-t” word or something like that. Weirdos.
lavender headgear almost 4 years ago
Yep, nice little loophole. They’re not a commons, so they can censor. But they’re not a publisher either, so they can’t be sued for content. And now they dominate public discourse. How to crush the First Amendment without violating it.
Classyladyor almost 4 years ago
FB jail is almost a badge of courage. You can land their for silly reasons.
Troglodyte almost 4 years ago
Oh God, no, Rat!
kenwarnerfordictator almost 4 years ago
I agree with you, Bilan. What’s the point in even starting?
some idiot from R'lyeh Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Rat makes a compelling argument.
zerotvus almost 4 years ago
bookface sucks………
Differentname almost 4 years ago
True story. Someone on Reddit was bummed out that Twitter could deny people service. I told him he was a Pinko who wanted government controlling private companies.
Katsuro Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Well, when you join, you do click the “I agree” box that tells them it’s okay, among other things, to delete your posts or your account if they want to. You can’t really complain that they did something you gave them explicit permission to do.
Geophyzz almost 4 years ago
I bought Facebook stock at their IPO of $40; so yes, its like a deity.
rdav1248961 Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Facebook is a false God.
Gent almost 4 years ago
Naah. Facecrooks only gather your data so that they can make huge profits by selling em to a lotsa others.
mjb515 almost 4 years ago
The 1st Amendment is the law expressing the societal value of free speech as it applies to the government. Facebook may violating the principle of free speech by moderating for viewpoint as they hold themselves to be an open forum.
Ellis97 almost 4 years ago
Facebook and the government? What’s the difference?
GlenGoodwin almost 4 years ago
The government abides, like teeth
tripwire45 almost 4 years ago
Facebook thinks so, but then twitter thinks they’re a deity, too.
Jeffin Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Get out of my face!
dfrost1 almost 4 years ago
It is a monopoly so it is a violation of your rights.
Zebrastripes almost 4 years ago
Privately owned can do that I guess. FB is a waste of time!
Ignatz Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Some common ground here, though. Conservatives: This is one more reason why companies should not be allowed to get too large, and why you need a healthy public sector.
If everything is privatized, freedom of speech – in fact, the entire 1st Amendment – ceases to exist.
StratmanRon almost 4 years ago
Sad but true.
Purple People Eater almost 4 years ago
Goat makes an interesting point. If a Christian (or a member of any other religion) prays in a public place, he is not violating anybody’s first amendment rights, but if somebody sues him for it, and the court finds in the plaintiff’s favor, then the court is violating the Christian’s first amendment rights, because it is a branch of the government.
david_42 almost 4 years ago
FB and deities are things I do not have in my life.
Croc Holliday almost 4 years ago
This is a point that the Trump-loving trolls fail to grasp.
tony_n_jen2003 almost 4 years ago
Anybody remember The President’s Analyst? Maybe it’s for a remake.
bxclent Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Just say NO
brick10 almost 4 years ago
Nailed it!
AndreasMartin almost 4 years ago
Facebook is kind of the snake in the paradise that is the internet...Yes, yes, that was a JOKE!…Sheesh…
Otis Rufus Driftwood almost 4 years ago
Don’t let Facebook or any other social media be the government. The actual government isn’t even good at its job.
Gameguy49 Premium Member almost 4 years ago
I went to Facebook once, took a look around, and left. Nothing there for me worth giving them my all.
mike75035 almost 4 years ago
They’ve been given, or allowed, the power of a government. They are immune from laws that private citizens are liable to.
Linguist almost 4 years ago
St. Donald thought it was the one true religion, and he was a devote practitioner until he was excommunicated.
raybarb44 almost 4 years ago
In power over your lives, yes……
Nyckname almost 4 years ago
But try to get a “right” whinger to comprehend that.
MeGoNow Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Yes, if your deity is Erra, an Akkadian plague god of the eighth century BCE, the god of mayhem and pestilence who is responsible for periods of political confusion.
KEA almost 4 years ago
Yes, an evil deity.
the lost wizard almost 4 years ago
But we’re friends.
COL Crash almost 4 years ago
No Rat, they’re just a business with the Freedom to set their own Rules of Engagement just like any other one. You know, like “No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service”.
If you don’t like their rules you can take you’re free to take your business somewhere else.
esg1981 almost 4 years ago
The right hates Facebook and Twitter because they consider it censorship to flag lies and ban liars. The left hates them because they don’t do it enough. Regardless of what you think of the value of social media, you must admit the companies have to walk a very fine line.
Call me Ishmael almost 4 years ago
Facebook is a commercial enterprise. Surprisingly often, a Deity also turns out to be one .
Imhungry almost 4 years ago
To some people, yeah, they are a deity. Why I will never understand.
HammerBruh almost 4 years ago
HA HA HA! I don’t know why this is so funny but it is!
cracker65 almost 4 years ago
Listen to the GOAT conservative talk show hosts.
knight1192a almost 4 years ago
No, but people like you foolishly think so, Rat.
ekke almost 4 years ago
Yes, but social media platforms like Facebook are operating, supposedly, for benefit of the public — all the public. In fact, they could be regulated as utilities and their suppression of free speech ended. Imagine if your electric utility could cut you off because they don’t like your politics.
asrialfeeple almost 4 years ago
Facebook is known for deleting messages and group without informing you and without giving a reason.
willie_mctell almost 4 years ago
It’s the internet. Either anything goes or you get moderated.
Pgalden1 Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Yep…Satan
Sisyphos almost 4 years ago
Not a government (yet). Certainly not a deity (maybe a demon). But too darn big for their britches. Zuck needs to be down-sized, maybe through anti-trust legislation….
gbars70 almost 4 years ago
180 comments; I wonder if Pastis lights these fuses unwittingly or by design!?
Ray Helvy Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Prodigy and Compuserve did the same in their day; they wiped out dissent. The Internet was supposed to change that, and did wipe out those two. It looks like we forgot our history, so we are condemned to repeat it.
thedogesl Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Well, that’s certainly one possibility….
Buy my cookies almost 4 years ago
perfiction
The Sinistral Bassist Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Does it make it better when corporations are doing it in coordination with the government? Pastis has a simplistic view of the world
Ukko wilko almost 4 years ago
Facebutt is more like a plague.
JohnDoe49703088 almost 4 years ago
And yet you can not post the lollipop song on Comics Kingdom. Something about the second part
Larryb8415 almost 4 years ago
A private company acting at the behest of a political ideology and or party… I think there’s a word for that.
PBS1! almost 4 years ago
If it’s creating a ‘clear and present danger’ it’s not protected speech.
Sailor46 USN 65-95 almost 4 years ago
They like to think so.
franki_g almost 4 years ago
Facebook isn’t orange….
Rokittman almost 4 years ago
Like “The Google” ??
William Stoneham Premium Member almost 4 years ago
So, since landline and mobile phone companies are privately owned, you wouldn’t mind them monitoring and restricting your phone calls?
CAT EMPIRE LEADER over 3 years ago
Which Is Worse? FaceBook Or The Government?
wordsmeet over 3 years ago
A self-serving service at that, Facebook provides.