An interesting point of fact; the active “popularist” republicans have moves so far to the right that they think (and I use that term loosely) that staunch, long term conservatives are far left.
Liar, traitor, racist, crook Trump the delusional psycho is the de facto head of the authoritarian Republican party, and they appear to get crazier and more unAmerican everyday.
I had no idea. I’ve been genuinely confused with the repeats lately where Mike was supporting Republicans. I’ve been trying to guess Trudeaus criticism.
Moderate = moderate conservative i.e. not a reactionary. But considering what a moral dumpster fire the US is now and has been for decades, that’s little better.
Meanwhile in NC, gerrymandering/voter suppression is raging as it has for years, dividing cities to dilute the Democrat vote. Then in a loud voice, create a distraction by accusing Democrats of voter fraud. We need good Republicans to stand up and say NO. But they are silent.
Not sure I buy the idea that Republicans were pro-democracy before Trump. I think they’ve been going in the authoritarian direction for decades before that. People like Mike were just deluded that it was otherwise.
We have another bellwether coming up in 2022 in GA to determine if we are getting through to enough people to end the anti-democracy movement. There’s a good chance that the Governor’s race will be Abrams v Perdue (primarying Kemp with The Fat Orange Clown’s endorsement).
The first group will be the moderate GOP who will have to bite the bullet for their party’s future. The other group contains the POC and lower class who always take Dem energy, time and money trying to get them to come out to vote despite the voter suppression laws to stop them.
I’m idly wondering lately if armed conflict with Russia over Ukraine would bring the “anti-Commies” back into t he government fold, so to speak. I also confess that I think Putin is currently our most dangerous enemy.
The most vocal, the most outraged anti-Trumpers ought to be members of the Republican Party. And the leaders of the party who just go along with Trump need to be ousted.
Read David French’s “America’s Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation”…excellent insights on why & how we got to this situation and how to move to more tolerance.
Tolerance = the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
I have said many times before, and I will reiterate: The Republican Party Is Dead! They sold their souls to greed and promise of unlimited power by following a huckster! For allowing themselves to be led by a socio-psychopath, a narcissistic con-man, they have surfeited what little intelligence and integrity they once had.
Anyone still calling themselves a Moderate Republican is delusional! If you oppose Trump then you’re no longer – according to his minions – a Republican. If you are a follower of Trump then you are a Trumpistnot a Republican!
Phil and Jim were both horrible, HORRIBLE people who I sincerely doubt care about living in a dictatorship or not, as long as they keep their fortunes and don’t have to pay taxes.
I’d find it easier to believe they’re against voter suppression if they DID something to fight it instead of staying silent. Because right now it just looks like lip service because they benefit from it.
I have been reading history professor Dr. Heather Cox Richardson’s ‘Letters from an American’ daily posts on Facebook for two+ years now (there are other ways to read them as well if you don’t do FB). She teaches at Boston U., writes about things that have happened in the past day or so and how it ties into our country’s history, in a very clear and concise way. I have learned a lot from her and envy those who get to take her classes. Sometimes her posts can be unsettling (she does not pull punches on what a perilous time this is for democracy in the United States) but she also writes with an optimism that all is not lost. I highly recommend what she writes. A good, thoughtful read usually takes about five minutes a day.
I once met Trudeau at a book signing. I asked him what would surprise “Doonesbury” readers the most to learn about “Doonesbury.” He replied that there were always lots of Republicans in Congress who asked him to send them the original art of strips that featured them. And, of course, William F. Buckley wrote the forward to “Doonesbury’s Greatest Hits”. That WAS way back in 1978, of course…..I, personally, didn’t have the Republican Party leave me until later—but before Traitor Trump, of course.
Trump was a Democrat. He has co-opted the GOP for his own, very selfish ends – primarily the making of money, self-aggrandizement, and the avoidance of paying bills. It is easy to foresee a scenario where conservatives have to form another party just to dump Trump and his clueless sycophants. He has literally turned against everyone he has formerly praised. What makes you so special that it wouldn’t be you next?
Where’s Duke? If anyone was right-wing then it was him surely! If Lacey and Dick Davenport are worth remembering then Duke should be at the centre of things!
Today’s Republican Party is not conservative. They are classical radical right-wing reactionaries. They want to turn the clock back to the 1950’s…or ever the 1850’s. You know; the Good Old Days.
If that is all true, why hasn’t Trudeau address Waukesha? As with most of the press, even Fox, they won’t touch that racist hate crime that killed 6 people including a child. And they don’t address why cities aren’t burning over it.
wow, CLYDE!! I thought he left with the 70’s. also I think Trudeau’s been reading my comments! XD and thank you. I’m what I think I’d consider a moderate or independent conservative, since I’m not a member of the GOP anymore.
Again, we are presented with the odd implication that Trff (who, in the Doonesbury universe, is just as “real” a person as is Trump), a [fictional] former despot and “ethnic cleanser” who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people, is somehow “less evil” than Trump, who’s…well, c’mon, he’s not DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people, anyway. Still, as ever, just a comic strip, I should really just relax.
“I don’t like to second-guess, but I do believe we’ve lost something,” he said. “I can’t get my hand on it, but we’re just not quite where we should be, as the greatest democracy in the world. And I don’t know how you correct it, but I keep hoping that there will be a change in my lifetime.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/22/98-bob-dole-reckons-legacy-trump-ponders-future-gop/7995412002/
RIP Bob Dole, sorry to say things haven’t improved in time.
Remember the allegations of voting fraud in the 2000 election? Yeah, no one else does, either. :-|
And Al Gore not only accepted that he [supposedly] hadn’t won, he refrained from running in 2004 rather than risk reviving the whole mess. He put the nation’s interests above his own.
I am not sure people commenting are really seeing the comic above. Not ALL Republicans were for Trump nor do they go along with what this new wave is doing to their party. There are Republicans that voted for Clinton and Biden. There are Democrats who voted for Trump once or even both times. Not all Republicans are alike just like not all Democrats are. There are Republicans that are pro choice, not racist, are for helping the poor, etc. There are Democrats that are pro life, racist, not for helping the poor, etc. etc. Some people have one thing they hold dear that they will go with one party for and hate all the other stuff. To keep saying “Republicans this and Republicans that”, is not right. I believe there is another party here and they are the Trump followers. They are not Republicans, they hijacked that name and hide behind it. Just like some terrorists like to hijack religions and hide behind them. Please, this is just making things worse. Reread the comic and get it’s meaning. Please.
Mike started out as the butt of the joke. He called himself a conservative very early on, remarking on how interesting it was that he could be friends with the very liberal Mark. His first success came from selling out his talents to create Mr. Butts. Over the years, he has grown up a lot. Maybe the next step he’ll take will be finally putting the GQP behind him.
Okay kids! Ol’school ol’soldier patriot citizen learned back in the day; a republic is rule by law! (I.e., “Our” Constitutional Republic!) A democracy is rule by mob! Gee! And what do we have now…? A mob! Wise up!
RAGs almost 3 years ago
An interesting point of fact; the active “popularist” republicans have moves so far to the right that they think (and I use that term loosely) that staunch, long term conservatives are far left.
Richard S Russell Premium Member almost 3 years ago
“Moderate Republican”? Aren’t they on the endangered species list, if not already completely extinct?
Johnny Q Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Hey, BD—people who praise Reagan condemn themselves!
Radish... almost 3 years ago
Liar, traitor, racist, crook Trump the delusional psycho is the de facto head of the authoritarian Republican party, and they appear to get crazier and more unAmerican everyday.
Randallw almost 3 years ago
I had no idea. I’ve been genuinely confused with the repeats lately where Mike was supporting Republicans. I’ve been trying to guess Trudeaus criticism.
Liverlips McCracken Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Mr. Trump is not a conservative as that term was defined when I came of age. He is a Nazi. He is our version of AH. Nothing more, nothing less.
braindead Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Republicans no longer want to live in a democracy.
They want to live in a country where the Right People are in power.
And where Those People have no power whatsoever.
shanen0 almost 3 years ago
How do #neoBolsheviks feel about peaceful democracy in a republic?
Their #fake_GOP is against it.
A failed practice insurrection “led” by cowards and losers is still an #insurrection.
GreggW Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Moderate = moderate conservative i.e. not a reactionary. But considering what a moral dumpster fire the US is now and has been for decades, that’s little better.
FreyjaRN Premium Member almost 3 years ago
How did we know they’d bust things up?
dtm3tv almost 3 years ago
Meanwhile in NC, gerrymandering/voter suppression is raging as it has for years, dividing cities to dilute the Democrat vote. Then in a loud voice, create a distraction by accusing Democrats of voter fraud. We need good Republicans to stand up and say NO. But they are silent.
stasiewicz1 almost 3 years ago
So how about a collection of lefties? Who’s going to represent the really far left?
wrd2255 almost 3 years ago
“You got blood on your hands, you big disgraceWaving your banner all over the placeWe will, we will lock you!”
RichardHunter almost 3 years ago
Not sure I buy the idea that Republicans were pro-democracy before Trump. I think they’ve been going in the authoritarian direction for decades before that. People like Mike were just deluded that it was otherwise.
admiree2 almost 3 years ago
We have another bellwether coming up in 2022 in GA to determine if we are getting through to enough people to end the anti-democracy movement. There’s a good chance that the Governor’s race will be Abrams v Perdue (primarying Kemp with The Fat Orange Clown’s endorsement).
The first group will be the moderate GOP who will have to bite the bullet for their party’s future. The other group contains the POC and lower class who always take Dem energy, time and money trying to get them to come out to vote despite the voter suppression laws to stop them.
bruce1966 almost 3 years ago
What about Duke?
Call me Ishmael almost 3 years ago
Voter fraud (defrauding the voters) won Florida for Bush in 2000. All the rest is the Decline and Fall of “the last best hope of Mankind”.
Masterskrain almost 3 years ago
What else is there to say, but you nailed it again, Garry.
rossevrymn almost 3 years ago
And that’s why I left the GQP……………………..right-wing populists?:
salunga almost 3 years ago
I’m idly wondering lately if armed conflict with Russia over Ukraine would bring the “anti-Commies” back into t he government fold, so to speak. I also confess that I think Putin is currently our most dangerous enemy.
Durak Premium Member almost 3 years ago
The most vocal, the most outraged anti-Trumpers ought to be members of the Republican Party. And the leaders of the party who just go along with Trump need to be ousted.
MC4802 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Read David French’s “America’s Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation”…excellent insights on why & how we got to this situation and how to move to more tolerance.
Tolerance = the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
gayle454 almost 3 years ago
A bunch of old white folk…not helping the conservative imaging
Linguist almost 3 years ago
I have said many times before, and I will reiterate: The Republican Party Is Dead! They sold their souls to greed and promise of unlimited power by following a huckster! For allowing themselves to be led by a socio-psychopath, a narcissistic con-man, they have surfeited what little intelligence and integrity they once had.
Anyone still calling themselves a Moderate Republican is delusional! If you oppose Trump then you’re no longer – according to his minions – a Republican. If you are a follower of Trump then you are a Trumpist not a Republican!
Will_Scarlet almost 3 years ago
Phil and Jim were both horrible, HORRIBLE people who I sincerely doubt care about living in a dictatorship or not, as long as they keep their fortunes and don’t have to pay taxes.
tgg almost 3 years ago
broke my little mind
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Thanks. Someone had to say it.
Redd Panda almost 3 years ago
I check the news each day, to say if trump went belly-up.
Not yet. Sad. Hey, there’s always tomorrow!
Hope is what gets us out of bed everyday. (Us geezers.)
burkeen almost 3 years ago
I had to show an ID the other day to buy beer, so much suppression.
Alverant almost 3 years ago
I’d find it easier to believe they’re against voter suppression if they DID something to fight it instead of staying silent. Because right now it just looks like lip service because they benefit from it.
bunrabbit99 almost 3 years ago
then why don’t more of these moderates speak out??
BC in NC Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I have been reading history professor Dr. Heather Cox Richardson’s ‘Letters from an American’ daily posts on Facebook for two+ years now (there are other ways to read them as well if you don’t do FB). She teaches at Boston U., writes about things that have happened in the past day or so and how it ties into our country’s history, in a very clear and concise way. I have learned a lot from her and envy those who get to take her classes. Sometimes her posts can be unsettling (she does not pull punches on what a perilous time this is for democracy in the United States) but she also writes with an optimism that all is not lost. I highly recommend what she writes. A good, thoughtful read usually takes about five minutes a day.
Godfreydaniel almost 3 years ago
I once met Trudeau at a book signing. I asked him what would surprise “Doonesbury” readers the most to learn about “Doonesbury.” He replied that there were always lots of Republicans in Congress who asked him to send them the original art of strips that featured them. And, of course, William F. Buckley wrote the forward to “Doonesbury’s Greatest Hits”. That WAS way back in 1978, of course…..I, personally, didn’t have the Republican Party leave me until later—but before Traitor Trump, of course.
Brent Rosenthal Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Love the blood on the hands.
dbradway1 almost 3 years ago
Oh, geez. Double negatives will trip you up every time.
mindjob almost 3 years ago
“They were all losers” is what the T-shirts will say when we’re working for China
Godfreydaniel almost 3 years ago
Two ex-dictators walk into a comic strip…..
mistercatworks almost 3 years ago
Trump was a Democrat. He has co-opted the GOP for his own, very selfish ends – primarily the making of money, self-aggrandizement, and the avoidance of paying bills. It is easy to foresee a scenario where conservatives have to form another party just to dump Trump and his clueless sycophants. He has literally turned against everyone he has formerly praised. What makes you so special that it wouldn’t be you next?
flibbons almost 3 years ago
Where’s Duke?
Andrew Bosch Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Is that Manuel Noriega next to Trump?
willie_mctell almost 3 years ago
Bob Taft and Barry Goldwater wanted to preserve the existing system too. The tear it down faction got mainstreamed by Reagan.
mct16 almost 3 years ago
Where’s Duke? If anyone was right-wing then it was him surely! If Lacey and Dick Davenport are worth remembering then Duke should be at the centre of things!
mfrasca almost 3 years ago
Today’s Republican Party is not conservative. They are classical radical right-wing reactionaries. They want to turn the clock back to the 1950’s…or ever the 1850’s. You know; the Good Old Days.
BeniHanna6 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
If that is all true, why hasn’t Trudeau address Waukesha? As with most of the press, even Fox, they won’t touch that racist hate crime that killed 6 people including a child. And they don’t address why cities aren’t burning over it.
moondog42 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Today’s “moderate” republicans have all joined the Democratic Party by now. There aren’t any more left (pun intended)
Teto85 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Those last two are not republicans. They are nazi wannabes. And should be dealt with as all nazis should be.
Claudia Skelton Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Thank you, Mr. Trudeau!
Eric S almost 3 years ago
wow, CLYDE!! I thought he left with the 70’s. also I think Trudeau’s been reading my comments! XD and thank you. I’m what I think I’d consider a moderate or independent conservative, since I’m not a member of the GOP anymore.
exitseven almost 3 years ago
So it looks like Twitter couldn’t suppress everyone.
Wizard of Ahz-no relation almost 3 years ago
sort of lost me when mike said he was a republican.
RonaldByrd almost 3 years ago
Again, we are presented with the odd implication that Trff (who, in the Doonesbury universe, is just as “real” a person as is Trump), a [fictional] former despot and “ethnic cleanser” who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people, is somehow “less evil” than Trump, who’s…well, c’mon, he’s not DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people, anyway. Still, as ever, just a comic strip, I should really just relax.
donut reply almost 3 years ago
“I don’t like to second-guess, but I do believe we’ve lost something,” he said. “I can’t get my hand on it, but we’re just not quite where we should be, as the greatest democracy in the world. And I don’t know how you correct it, but I keep hoping that there will be a change in my lifetime.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/22/98-bob-dole-reckons-legacy-trump-ponders-future-gop/7995412002/
RIP Bob Dole, sorry to say things haven’t improved in time.
montessoriteacher almost 3 years ago
RIP BOB DOLE
GaryCooper almost 3 years ago
I don’t remember who Phil is.
Malcome1 almost 3 years ago
I consider myself a moderate conservative. My biggest regret is supporting Trump in 2016. The damage he has done is immeasurable.
robertnb53 almost 3 years ago
Oh, and BTW, another Cuomo bites the dust.
Godfreydaniel almost 3 years ago
On a lighter note, Mr. Butts is probably a conservative—but Jimmy Crow is DEFINITELY a reactionary!
schaefer jim almost 3 years ago
Leave it to Doonesbury to come up with a great funny strip.
Richard S Russell Premium Member almost 3 years ago
14 Indicators of Fascism
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military / avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14. Fraudulent elections.
—Laurence W. Britt, “Fascism, Anyone?”, Free Inquiry 23:2gmadoll789 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Don’t forget replacing safe seats with dangerous seats!
RonaldByrd almost 3 years ago
Remember the allegations of voting fraud in the 2000 election? Yeah, no one else does, either. :-|
And Al Gore not only accepted that he [supposedly] hadn’t won, he refrained from running in 2004 rather than risk reviving the whole mess. He put the nation’s interests above his own.
And then there’s Trump.
Interesting contrast, don’t you think?
quanyindove almost 3 years ago
I am not sure people commenting are really seeing the comic above. Not ALL Republicans were for Trump nor do they go along with what this new wave is doing to their party. There are Republicans that voted for Clinton and Biden. There are Democrats who voted for Trump once or even both times. Not all Republicans are alike just like not all Democrats are. There are Republicans that are pro choice, not racist, are for helping the poor, etc. There are Democrats that are pro life, racist, not for helping the poor, etc. etc. Some people have one thing they hold dear that they will go with one party for and hate all the other stuff. To keep saying “Republicans this and Republicans that”, is not right. I believe there is another party here and they are the Trump followers. They are not Republicans, they hijacked that name and hide behind it. Just like some terrorists like to hijack religions and hide behind them. Please, this is just making things worse. Reread the comic and get it’s meaning. Please.
(I am a Democrat, by the way.)
Peace
Agapostemon almost 3 years ago
Mike started out as the butt of the joke. He called himself a conservative very early on, remarking on how interesting it was that he could be friends with the very liberal Mark. His first success came from selling out his talents to create Mr. Butts. Over the years, he has grown up a lot. Maybe the next step he’ll take will be finally putting the GQP behind him.
olgrunt54 almost 3 years ago
Okay kids! Ol’school ol’soldier patriot citizen learned back in the day; a republic is rule by law! (I.e., “Our” Constitutional Republic!) A democracy is rule by mob! Gee! And what do we have now…? A mob! Wise up!
dwkiser28603 almost 3 years ago
STAND YOUR GROUND1 To quote the great black actor Ozzie Davis…. ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING, even if does piss off Ol’ lard ass.
Ammo hates the comment policy Premium Member almost 3 years ago
AH how sweet, Liberals want to make up right before they get Crushed in the mid-terms.
LeslieAnn Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Ozzie Davis was wonderful. Thank you for the reminder.
WDD almost 3 years ago
Still portrayed with blood on his hands. Still waiting to see Joe “Let’s Go, Brandon” Biden with milk on his hands after Afghanistan.
JLG Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I’m genuinely shocked that Mike still considers himself a Republican. I mean, that sincerely disturbs me.
STACEY MARSHALL Premium Member almost 3 years ago
TRumpasauras!