A musket might work for you. The second Militia Act of 1792 recommended the following:
That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia… provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball…
You know something, however many decades the NRA and gun nuts have been pushing the “we need these guns to resist tyranny” mantra? I haven’t heard jack about any of them taking down any tyrants. I HAVE heard about several thousand children, mothers, fathers, co-workers, teachers, grandparents and innocents gunned down, though.
By the logic of the gun-crazy American Conservative, it must be okay to shoot a cop who tries to make you do something you don’t want to do. Since they’re the Government.
And that guy who shot Senator Scalise? Just a patriot rising up against the agent of an oppressive Government.
I need a gun in order to keep the government from taking my gun…reminds me of the noodnick who took his car to the mechanic, and was told the engine was shot, because he never checked the oil. The mechanic asked him if he ever noticed the check engine light was on, and the guy told him he thought that was just there to let him know the light was working.
The best way to keep choppers off the lawn is not to be interesting to chopper flying people. A nice winchester 73 and a colt revolver will tend to most of your hunting and self-defense needs. The grunt stuff is just cooler.
Do these “Molon Labe” and “from my cold dead hand” blusterers realize that what they’re saying is “I will murder law enforcement officers if they try to take my toys?”
And then he will be climbing back into his lifted 5 M.P.G. Coal-Rolling 4X4 Pickup with the multiple “Trump 2024” flags dropping his fuel mileage down even more, which has never been further off-road then the time he accidentally ran into the grass at the edge of the Mall-Wart Parking lot, whining and kvetching about the price of diesel before driving his Mall-Crawler back to his double-wide on the cracked concrete blocks with the “Stop the Steal” signs all over the front yard.
I see these people EVERY TIME I have to make the 25 mile trip into town from where I live out in the country.
“I want a gun so the gubment can’t take it away.” Don’t worry, you’re white. Cops will see you as an ally first and you’d have to do something serious, like shoot a bunch of people, for them to come after you. Even then they’ll be gentle.
A former acquaintance once bragged about the arsenal of long guns he maintains. This was after the mass shooter in the movie theater. He claimed he should be able to go armed into the theater so he could “take down” a shooter like that. He’s well over 350 lbs and in poor health. Never went to the range. I suggested he had a better chance, in that scenario, of taking out innocent bystanders, and if the active shooter kills two and he kills ten, who is the real bad guy? His answer was, if I kill ten, I’ll get him on the eleventh shot. The rest are collateral damage.
I’ve never heard a more bizarre justification for owning a firearm.
With that logic, everyone needs 50 guns, just in case the government wants to take away 49. Once you admit guns are not the answer, then you can look at the real problems in your life.
The “right-wing” crazies that committed insurrection on January 6, 2021, invaded my State House and tried to destroy or prevent my vote! Invoking the 25th Amendment before January 6th, may have prevented the death & destruction of lives, and our national reputation.
Another mass killing last night and another this morning. But people of all ages need to be sacrificed for the 2nd Amendment. Thank dog we moved to a civilised country where bullet proof backpacks and body armour for students of all ages are not needed. Thank dog we can go in to town and not worry about a disgruntled former employee going about shooting up the grocery, stationery, or feed store.
And so we have the tale of one C. Wesley Morgan, who spent $6.5 million builing a bunker and loading it with guns and gear, convinced that civil war was coming and wanting a place he could defend against roving bands of marauders.
.
Then there was an intruder who broke in and shot his daughter eleven times in her bed. An intruder who was a 23-year-old former soldier, convinced that civil war was coming and wanting a place he could defend against roving bands of marauders- and hey, he had a gun, so he could just take it from the people already living there.
.
All those guns, all that preparation, and he couldn’t stop one man from killing his daughter.
Anyone who believes guns will keep the government from taking your guns, or your property, or your life, is deluded. This has been demonstrated in Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc. What keeps us safe from our government is obeying the laws, respecting the rights of others, and voting for people who believe in the freedoms our founders believed in.
In the Constitution, Article 1, Section VIIIClause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
Clause 16. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.
This is hardly the same as “everybody gets a gun.”
I’m sorry to hear that this person has so little concern for the human race as to call them collateral damage.
I myself own several firearms. Was trained in the use of them not only by my Father, but, by both sets of grandparents as well as my time in the military.
A person with an attitude as you have mentioned has no need to be my hero.
If I were in a situation where he was trying to get the bad guy, I would probably take him out by mistake thinking he was the active shooter.
For me, “Doing my own online research” means following your comments here. Our forebears were more prescient than I had previously thought. Their hardware may have been antiquated; their racism, not so much.
BE THIS GUY over 2 years ago
A musket might work for you. The second Militia Act of 1792 recommended the following:
That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia… provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball…
RAGs over 2 years ago
I hate to say it, but some people are almost this bad. And that’s just the nominally sane ones.
jdi801 over 2 years ago
Wonder what he’ll use to keep the M1 Abrams off his lawn after his house is leveled.
braindead Premium Member over 2 years ago
Gun violence advocates believe this scenario is perfectly normal.
.
And definitely acceptable.
Admirable, even.
superposition over 2 years ago
Tell me again how well arming the citizenry has improved the quality, dependability, open honesty, and trustworthiness of government.
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 2 years ago
“Well, we’ve got a great deal on these bazookas. Or perhaps this Armageddon 666 tactical nuke.”
The dude from FL Premium Member over 2 years ago
After January 6 AND what is to come, orange getting reelected. I fear! You’ve read Bannon’s comment?
PoodleGroomer over 2 years ago
5.56 is light for choppers. 7.62 is better suited.
Ravenswing over 2 years ago
You know something, however many decades the NRA and gun nuts have been pushing the “we need these guns to resist tyranny” mantra? I haven’t heard jack about any of them taking down any tyrants. I HAVE heard about several thousand children, mothers, fathers, co-workers, teachers, grandparents and innocents gunned down, though.
Susan00100 over 2 years ago
Sell him a blunderbuss—maybe it’ll blow his d@mn fool head off!!
For a Just and Peaceful World over 2 years ago
Google: pictures of gun collections
My favorite: gun-loving Americans and their firearms collections
ElVez2 over 2 years ago
I always wondered why these Nudnicks who want assault rifles don’t just join the military. Plenty firepower there and free to use
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 2 years ago
So far a typical, normal American weekend. One family was shot to death camping except for the 9 year old. Not the only shooting.
Ignatz Premium Member over 2 years ago
By the logic of the gun-crazy American Conservative, it must be okay to shoot a cop who tries to make you do something you don’t want to do. Since they’re the Government.
And that guy who shot Senator Scalise? Just a patriot rising up against the agent of an oppressive Government.
prairiedogdance Premium Member over 2 years ago
Hmmm, my screen seems to have cut off the punchline
mourdac Premium Member over 2 years ago
Hot dang, just what civilians need so they don’t fall behind on firepower (/s):
https://www.yahoo.com/news/assault-rifle-being-sold-civilians-105625717.html
gantech over 2 years ago
I need a gun in order to keep the government from taking my gun…reminds me of the noodnick who took his car to the mechanic, and was told the engine was shot, because he never checked the oil. The mechanic asked him if he ever noticed the check engine light was on, and the guy told him he thought that was just there to let him know the light was working.
Redd Panda over 2 years ago
It’s frightening what you get, when you mix a simple mind and a little fear.
Humans are easily led. Consider how many are driving pickups, and have no use for them, at all. None.
Are sheep led, or driven? Hmmm.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member over 2 years ago
The best way to keep choppers off the lawn is not to be interesting to chopper flying people. A nice winchester 73 and a colt revolver will tend to most of your hunting and self-defense needs. The grunt stuff is just cooler.
JD_Rhoades over 2 years ago
Do these “Molon Labe” and “from my cold dead hand” blusterers realize that what they’re saying is “I will murder law enforcement officers if they try to take my toys?”
Masterskrain over 2 years ago
And then he will be climbing back into his lifted 5 M.P.G. Coal-Rolling 4X4 Pickup with the multiple “Trump 2024” flags dropping his fuel mileage down even more, which has never been further off-road then the time he accidentally ran into the grass at the edge of the Mall-Wart Parking lot, whining and kvetching about the price of diesel before driving his Mall-Crawler back to his double-wide on the cracked concrete blocks with the “Stop the Steal” signs all over the front yard.
I see these people EVERY TIME I have to make the 25 mile trip into town from where I live out in the country.
mikenassour Premium Member over 2 years ago
My God, this is pathetic.
GaryCooper over 2 years ago
I’ve actually heard people use that argument, apparently seriously: “I need guns to keep the government from taking away my guns.”
Alverant over 2 years ago
“I want a gun so the gubment can’t take it away.” Don’t worry, you’re white. Cops will see you as an ally first and you’d have to do something serious, like shoot a bunch of people, for them to come after you. Even then they’ll be gentle.
Realimaginary1 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Let’s see. Which Clint Eastwood character are we talking about?!!
Plods with ...™ over 2 years ago
Sigh
salunga over 2 years ago
A former acquaintance once bragged about the arsenal of long guns he maintains. This was after the mass shooter in the movie theater. He claimed he should be able to go armed into the theater so he could “take down” a shooter like that. He’s well over 350 lbs and in poor health. Never went to the range. I suggested he had a better chance, in that scenario, of taking out innocent bystanders, and if the active shooter kills two and he kills ten, who is the real bad guy? His answer was, if I kill ten, I’ll get him on the eleventh shot. The rest are collateral damage.
I’ve never heard a more bizarre justification for owning a firearm.
mistercatworks over 2 years ago
With that logic, everyone needs 50 guns, just in case the government wants to take away 49. Once you admit guns are not the answer, then you can look at the real problems in your life.
alibey over 2 years ago
Military grade is made by the lowest bidder
akosoffsky over 2 years ago
The “right-wing” crazies that committed insurrection on January 6, 2021, invaded my State House and tried to destroy or prevent my vote! Invoking the 25th Amendment before January 6th, may have prevented the death & destruction of lives, and our national reputation.
Teto85 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Another mass killing last night and another this morning. But people of all ages need to be sacrificed for the 2nd Amendment. Thank dog we moved to a civilised country where bullet proof backpacks and body armour for students of all ages are not needed. Thank dog we can go in to town and not worry about a disgruntled former employee going about shooting up the grocery, stationery, or feed store.
The Wolf In Your Midst over 2 years ago
And so we have the tale of one C. Wesley Morgan, who spent $6.5 million builing a bunker and loading it with guns and gear, convinced that civil war was coming and wanting a place he could defend against roving bands of marauders.
.
Then there was an intruder who broke in and shot his daughter eleven times in her bed. An intruder who was a 23-year-old former soldier, convinced that civil war was coming and wanting a place he could defend against roving bands of marauders- and hey, he had a gun, so he could just take it from the people already living there.
.
All those guns, all that preparation, and he couldn’t stop one man from killing his daughter.
.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/us/kentucky-bunker-civil-war.html
FGWaiss over 2 years ago
Anyone who believes guns will keep the government from taking your guns, or your property, or your life, is deluded. This has been demonstrated in Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc. What keeps us safe from our government is obeying the laws, respecting the rights of others, and voting for people who believe in the freedoms our founders believed in.
whiteaj over 2 years ago
Yeah… and that’s all the government “militia” had at the time either.
toastmastermazanec over 2 years ago
Surprised he’s new to guns, with that attitude.
sby14 over 2 years ago
In the Constitution, Article 1, Section VIIIClause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
Clause 16. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.
This is hardly the same as “everybody gets a gun.”
GreggW Premium Member over 2 years ago
Circular fanaticism.
magicfever495 over 2 years ago
I’m sorry to hear that this person has so little concern for the human race as to call them collateral damage.
I myself own several firearms. Was trained in the use of them not only by my Father, but, by both sets of grandparents as well as my time in the military.
A person with an attitude as you have mentioned has no need to be my hero.
If I were in a situation where he was trying to get the bad guy, I would probably take him out by mistake thinking he was the active shooter.
jvscanlan Premium Member over 2 years ago
Nailed the level of intellect and thought process
DarkHorseSki over 2 years ago
Actually, his reasoning is a pretty good reason for many folks who love the Constitution to own a gun.
bakana over 2 years ago
The Best way to keep the Gummint from taking away your Gun is to not Have one.
Bonus: You get to watch them getting ungodly Frustrated when they cannot Find it, no matter how hard or how long they search.
Red State Pinko over 2 years ago
For me, “Doing my own online research” means following your comments here. Our forebears were more prescient than I had previously thought. Their hardware may have been antiquated; their racism, not so much.
gin over 2 years ago
THE ART
MY EYES
198.23.5.11 over 2 years ago
What we need is a well regulated militia to take out the morons who think THEY’RE the “well-regulated militia”.
Here’s to Judy Collins singing “Shoot First”