A couple of years ago, as a pandemic project, I read James Joyce’s “Finnegans Wake”, one of the more incomprehensible books ever written. Absolutely loved it.
Convoluted writing distracts from the message. I have read a variety of genres over the years, everything from youth novels to research papers. Often the more complex writing styles were accompanied by a reduced amount of information.
Peer to peer highly technical research is excluded, but I don’t think that is what he is writing. If he is more focused on content, then he should consider it the rough draft. Polishing the final draft is when you focus on making sure the audience actually hears what you want to say.
In much of the academic world, it is considered intelligent to write very obscurely in a manner that is only discernible by their colleagues, who are used to such writing.
Writing can be good and clear, but still difficult to understand. Sartre and Dostoevsky are difficult to read — at least in their English translations — yet their works communicate interesting ideas. And mathematics texts can be brutal for the uninitiated to fully comprehend. Try almost any Wiki article on math, like this one on integers: en.wikipedia.Org/wiki/Integer (don’t just stop at the first few paragraphs; read down to the parts about unital rings and equivalence classes of ordered pairs).
Clear, precise writing about tough subjects is going to be hard to read regardless of its quality.
When I taught, and assigned research papers, I said simple and clear is easier to write and understand. Don’t try to impress each other with ornate writing. Leave that to Shakespeare and the English department. (engineering class)
uhohlol 11 months ago
Or they are not writing for you to read.
Olddog1 11 months ago
You have to be smart enough to understand it.
Brian G Premium Member 11 months ago
Language is words for ideas that already exist, some new ideas find preexisting language rather inadequate.
HappyDog/ᵀʳʸ ᴮᵒᶻᵒ ⁴ ᵗʰᵉ ᶠᵘⁿ ᵒᶠ ᶦᵗ Premium Member 11 months ago
Didn’t you go to school, Betty? Or did you sleep through English class?
WaitingMan 11 months ago
A couple of years ago, as a pandemic project, I read James Joyce’s “Finnegans Wake”, one of the more incomprehensible books ever written. Absolutely loved it.
Carl Premium Member 11 months ago
Because a good, clear world does not exist and writing as such about it is incomplete and incorrect and shows a lack of good clear thinking.
ireoftsubaki 11 months ago
Convoluted writing distracts from the message. I have read a variety of genres over the years, everything from youth novels to research papers. Often the more complex writing styles were accompanied by a reduced amount of information.
Peer to peer highly technical research is excluded, but I don’t think that is what he is writing. If he is more focused on content, then he should consider it the rough draft. Polishing the final draft is when you focus on making sure the audience actually hears what you want to say.
Otherwise, why bother trying to communicate?
goboboyd 11 months ago
More commas, footnotes that take a third of a page, and plenty of Roman numerals. A book length Forward?
david_42 11 months ago
“Why do I talk over the students’ heads? I’m aiming where their heads should be.”
saywhatwhat 11 months ago
Sometimes smart people write about things that are really hard to understand.
Kalkkuna 11 months ago
Like me. Me, me, me.
DawnQuinn1 11 months ago
Truly smart people do not tell everyone how smart they are.
Prescott_Philosopher 11 months ago
In much of the academic world, it is considered intelligent to write very obscurely in a manner that is only discernible by their colleagues, who are used to such writing.
fritzoid Premium Member 11 months ago
“The reason we write is to show us how disorganized our thoughts are.” — Kurt Vonnegut (I think)
snowedin, now known as Missy's mom 11 months ago
Words of wisdom from Betty!
Leonbutterfly Premium Member 11 months ago
What is well thought is well said, and the words to say it come easily. Boileau
sobrown51 11 months ago
When I got my degree in Communication (Journalism degree) they taught us to write at the 12-year-old level to be understandable by the most readers.
InquireWithin 11 months ago
Writing can be good and clear, but still difficult to understand. Sartre and Dostoevsky are difficult to read — at least in their English translations — yet their works communicate interesting ideas. And mathematics texts can be brutal for the uninitiated to fully comprehend. Try almost any Wiki article on math, like this one on integers: en.wikipedia.Org/wiki/Integer (don’t just stop at the first few paragraphs; read down to the parts about unital rings and equivalence classes of ordered pairs).
Clear, precise writing about tough subjects is going to be hard to read regardless of its quality.
crazeekatlady 11 months ago
When I taught, and assigned research papers, I said simple and clear is easier to write and understand. Don’t try to impress each other with ornate writing. Leave that to Shakespeare and the English department. (engineering class)
Scoutmaster77 11 months ago
Smart/educated people don’t always write for the lowest common denominator. :-|