Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for August 19, 2011

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    BE THIS GUY  over 13 years ago

    Same punch line 2 days in a row; GT you’re better than that.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    Agreed, LWP. But maybe Trudeau’s trying to re-emphasize that Becca herself is as morally un-compromised as Joanie (which I find refreshing in such a hottie), that she’s smart enough to parry the thrusts (so to speak) without losing a potential big-bux contract, and that Excellency is still thinking with his rooster. Beyond that speculation, I’m stumped.

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    TURTLE  over 13 years ago

    One track mind-less.

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    rayannina  over 13 years ago

    She takes him as seriously as he deserves to be taken. Also, I agree with Dylan — she IS pretty hot.

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    aardvarkseyes  over 13 years ago

    Or, Trudeau may be trying to see how far he can push Becca before she loses her cool.

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    AKHenderson Premium Member over 13 years ago

    Is Becca Bickle related to any NYC cabbies?

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    AKHenderson Premium Member over 13 years ago

    (reads latter posts from yesterday) Ah, Whitecamry beat me to it.

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    AKHenderson Premium Member over 13 years ago

    yesterday leftwingpatriot said: "Please stop equating National Socialism to modern Liberalism or Social Democracy. ".Um, where did you get that idea? If three philosophies happen to have a few things in common re economics, they can still be drastically different from one another overall..The two specific Nazi policies I cited – nationalization of unions and the elimination of securities trading – are NOT ideas hawked by the vast majority of the American left. I don’t think the British Labour Party and its Euro-mainland counterparts embrace those ideas, either..The Commie nations had muscular command economies. Does that sound like I’m equating Stalin and Ceaucescu with Attlee?.Different governments have different reasons for instituting command economies – building up the state (Hitler), eliminating economic risk (Western welfare statists), eliminating physical risk (Western nanny statists), paying lip service to economic egalitarianism but in practice forcing the populace into privation to build up the state (Commies)..Yes, Hitler saw Jews and Commies as his chief enemies. That doesn’t contradict my claim that he had a vendetta against capitalists. Who do you think he saw as the driving force behind capitalism? Quoting Chapter 10: “The function of the so-called liberal Press was…to break the national backbone of the people, thus preparing the nation to become the slaves of international finance and its masters, the Jews.”.(Thus the claim that Marxists conspired to turn over the German State Railway “to international capitalists” means that Hitler believed that Marxists were colluding with Jews so the latter would scarf up the rail system.).DT cautioned to be aware that Hitler didn’t always tell the truth. I think Mein Kampf was pretty honest..Stumbled across this: Capitalism in Germany (Time, Apr 07, 1941). Interesting read.

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    omegacenturion  over 13 years ago

    Sometimes you guys comments are funny but sometimes you guys are too grown, for crying out loud stop discussing politics and economics and any other grown up jazz on a comic website, can’t you guys just enjoy comics like you did when you were a kid gosh.

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    lewisbower  over 13 years ago

    Duh, and here I was humming “Here comes the bride”.

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    roctor  over 13 years ago

    First will be the personal book signing tour. Then hitting the morning and afternoon talkshow circus. Followed by his majesty’s own one hour primetime news factor. Coliminating with the reality show.

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    gladlythecrosseyedbear  over 13 years ago

    yawn

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    Lib(ertarian)  over 13 years ago

    You see women who can deflect disgusting advances in all walks of life and across the political spectrum. Sit in the corner at a truck stop sometime and watch the career waitress deal with lonely men. Or observe my daughter at her part-time bar gig, keeping the tips coming without any action. Or the vast majority of political interns or aides working for self-perceived powerful men. Women amaze me!

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    Sandfan  over 13 years ago

    Another possibility is that Becca is the same good looking clueless airhead that Boopsie used to be.

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    babka Premium Member over 13 years ago

    she’s mapping out a redemption he has yet to experience. the shot-putter affair happened at a time he was still a human being.worlds collide here, and she’s got the power, the smarts, the goods, the imagination and the life force. the tables have turned with a vengeance. this king may only look at this calico cat.

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    babka Premium Member over 13 years ago

    let Boopsie be Boopsie & Becca be Becca

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    Potrzebie  over 13 years ago

    Only one small paragraph per post please. If you want to argue politics, sports, economy or the weather, go get a soapbox and stand on a corner.

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    PappyFiddle  over 13 years ago

    Makes a great ideal, but how to squish the big fat slob into that ideal? He needs trimming in the urges and in the lipids if he’s ever going to squeeze into it. We need “Coliminating” !!

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    TheSpanishInquisition  over 13 years ago

    She’s Rebekha Brooks.

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    corzak  over 13 years ago

    Why same punchline two days in a row?GT has to churn out content. Continuously. End of analysis.

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    WaitingMan  over 13 years ago

    Trff has a big future as a member of “The Five” on Fox “News” Channel.

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    corzak  over 13 years ago

    On the whole Nazi analysis . . . I may have missed it while scanning through the turgid commentary of the last few days. Germany, unlike the Allies, won repeated victories throughout World War 1, many of which pushed right to the edge of total victory. Nevertheless – at the very end and after sacrificing enormous blood and treasure – Germany collapsed through sheer national exhaustion. And was then yoked with a humiliating and punitive armistice.Hitler served ALL four years of the war – traumatic enough! – and was devastated by the “peace” that followed, with confiscated territory, harsh reparations, hyper-inflation, hunger, etc.Everything Hitler said or did after this, all his ‘philosophies’ or ‘theories’, were motivated by one central idea: Germany was robbed of victory by traitors and untermensch. These would be purged, the war machine rebuilt, and the German nation would finally gain the global victory it deserved.All policies and theories regarding capitalists, unions, religion, etc, etc, were subordinated to this supreme, overriding goal.

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    randgrithr  over 13 years ago

    Six figures? LOL! She’s likely still making a fraction of what a man would in the same position – and it is in no small part because of this attitude that people’s inherent intelligence or other worth is defined by their salary. Especially these days, nothing could be further from the truth. There are a lot of six figure making wastes of protoplasm out there, and a lot of housewives who could run rings around them given the chance.

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    Dragoncat  over 13 years ago

    Nothing says “redemption” like wanting to make out with the book publisher..And you know Duke would be more than happy to arrange a hotel room for Trff. Anything to get him out of his home – and his life.

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    Dragoncat  over 13 years ago

    I, for one, am rather proud of Becca for maintaining her poker smile for as long as she has. But the week isn’t quite over yet.

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    pawpawbear  over 13 years ago

    I meant to say “own”. I can spell but not type.

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    randgrithr  over 13 years ago

    I have a feeling that Trrf is going to be finding his moral compass all by himself tonight. ;-7

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    marvee  over 13 years ago

    My daily paper also has this rerun. My guess is that some censorship is going on, or a delay in communication, not intentional on GT’s part.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    I deleted it, Wuzone. Because I decided it was too personal, and it also violated my own code of conduct.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    Wuzone, what do you think about the fact that Trudeau’s Doonesbury strip is political? About half the time? This particular story line we’re laughing at and discussing is political. It spoofs the corruption in our own culture, via the way our Presidents cooperate with other nations that are corrupt. And the way U.S. Administrations and interfere corruptly internationally — such as Bush-Cheney’s Torture R Us Enterprises?

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    AKHenderson Premium Member over 13 years ago

    Clarification (thought of this as I was getting ready for work) – I know what everyone else here knows, that Western nations have elements of command economies, not complete command systems. Hence the term “mixed economy” that we all grew up with..Off to work.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    You know we owe China a massive debt, don’t you, Wuzone? Now suppose that China invades Taiwan, our sworn ally. With our massive national debt and massive national deficit, we cannot fight China without borrowing more money. Should we borrow more money from China to fight China invading Taiwan? Nobody else will loan us the massive amounts that we will need. What would we do if China decides not to loan it to us?

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    Leftwing Patriot was only surprised over Trudeau’s continuing punchline, not over Trff’s continuing harassment. And I agreed with LWP.

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    BE THIS GUY  over 13 years ago

    Some newspapers run Doonesbury on the editorial page.

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    BE THIS GUY  over 13 years ago

    Great Britain paid back the money it owed the US for the Lend-Lease program according to Wikipedia:

    There was no charge for the Lend Lease aid delivered during the war, but the Americans did expect the return of some durable goods such as ships. Congress had not authorized the gift of supplies after the war, so the administration charged for them, usually at a 90% discount. Large quantities of undelivered goods were in Britain or in transit when Lend-Lease terminated on 2 September 1945. Britain wished to retain some of this equipment in the immediate post war period. In 1946, the post-war Anglo-American loan further indebted Britain to the U.S. Lend-lease items retained were sold to Britain at 10% of nominal value, giving an initial loan value of £1.075 billion for the Lend Lease portion of the post-war loans. Payment was to be stretched out over 50 annual payments, starting in 1951 and with five years of deferred payments, at 2% interest. The final payment of $83.3 million (£42.5 million), due on 31 December 2006 (repayment having been deferred in the allowed five years), was made on 29 December 2006 (the last working day of the year). After this final payment Britain’s Economic Secretary to the Treasury, Ed Balls, formally thanked the U.S. for its wartime support.

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    FriscoLou  over 13 years ago

    There she was, right in the middle of constructing some “Magic Realism”, when distraction reared it’s ugly head. Becca may need Jeff’s help for the magic BS part.

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    pawpawbear  over 13 years ago

    Do not forget the Chinese themselves.

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    pawpawbear  over 13 years ago

    Uzbek, I would say.

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    BE THIS GUY  over 13 years ago

    You are right. They did not come close to paying back all the aid they received but did pay back what we, the US, asked them to pay back.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    This is a business deal. Becca’s not threatened in the least by Trff, what with security only seconds away. She wants a career-building book deal. She doesn’t have to do any paperwork. She has to set up an editor-writer relationship with this demoniac. I’m beginning to think it won’t work. If Trudeau wants to call in some “magic realism”, then all bets are off. But I was an editor in this situation hundreds of times, and I know what’s going on here in the real world. In the “comic strip” world, though, I don’t know.

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    BE THIS GUY  over 13 years ago

    Luxembourg

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    BE THIS GUY  over 13 years ago

    I think our interaction just ended.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    Final remark on today’s strip:.Trudeau DID repeat his punchline, in slightly different words and pix. Seems too many people here have wrongly assumed that the conflict that Trudeau seems extra-super determined to get across is a sexual one. Bzzzzzzt wrong!.It is a BUSINESS conflict, no more and no less. Becca is presented as attractive, alive, aware; he’s presented as a disgusting slab of rotten meat. He’s motivated by his “moral compass” (read “immoral compass”), as Randgrithr said earlier. She’s motivated by a desire to build and enhance her career by landing a potentially best-seller book contract..She’s in NO WAY intimidated — with security just seconds away within easy call or by a silent, hidden button on her desk — by this pile of dog food. The reason for her having to parry his stupid thrusts with, “Honestly! You are SUCH a character!” is her concern that she might offend him and send him angry out the door. This could end a potential big money-makng contract for Random House (RH). And that could land her into deep chocolate mousse with her corporate VP bosses (CVPBs) who have invested a ton of money in her precisely because she DOES have the intellectual skills to win big contracts for RH, skills which are all too rare in todays marketplace. (Probably even her big-wig CVPBs don’t have them to her extent — meaning she’s a valuable commodity who could go to a competitor.).As far as today’s strip is concerned, I would assert that LWP nailed it with the very first comment: “Same punch line 2 days in a row; GT you’re better than that.”

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 13 years ago

    PS: In the book publishing business, people like Becca are called “acquisitions editors”.

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    FriscoLou  over 13 years ago

    If there’s a “Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous” (SLAA) program, there has to be a 12-step for this too.

    "My name is ‘So and So’, I make incessant posts and I can’t help my self.

    "Hi, ‘So and So’ "

    Gotta go and check my G-Mail, don’t worry I’ll be right back.

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