Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for June 03, 2015

At least they talked it over.

Quill’s not like the other guys.

yeah…thats not realistic, it feels like the writings of an old fashioned parent… :/

Amateurs.

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Oh they are sooooo going to do it . . . just not today.

And by that I mean they are so perfect for each other I can’t see them with anybody else.

I wonder if Gunther and Tiff had this same conversation in their ‘rendezvous’ recently?

Ah, responsibility.

I’m glad they talked it over…it got too heavy too fast for a supposed G-rated comic strip

Okay, so now Quill and Gunther can compare notes. So, who’s next in the batter’s box….Crystal and Knute?

This is what every parent hopes and dreams will happen… but KNOWS that it isn’t what actually happens.

I’d rather have an idealized version of a guy who waits for the girl to be ready rather than reality where girls are made to feel pressured.

Damn – I just wanted to see them in the act of putting their clothes back on – and then I would be fine with a new arc.

Not all teens are promiscuous.

here the core of education is abstinence and usually parents don’t want more than that to be taught………………. in western Europe the core of education is self responsibility and why is more convenient to wait, BUT if you don’t wait, what precautions to take ……………… guess which one has highest teen pregnancy rate? 30 vs 20 or less per 1000 girls aged 15 to 19

Ask again in 15 min, Quill.

Quill’s answer was perfect… it is a couples event and when in agreement a rather wonderful one. A truth that many lies get wrapped around.

It is of interest that abstinence-only sex education is more likely to lead to pregnancy. That means Luann would be more likely to become pregnant rather than less. Lately I only read this for the unintentional laffs.

“My head and heart aren’t ready” sounds a LOT like “I don’t love you intellectually or emotionally yet,” by the way!

Quill’s one of the good guys.

Good lesson here actually. Teaching restraint is never a bad thing.

Two well-raised kids were able to reign in the raging hormones of the teen years! Good for them (and their parents). There will be a right time soon enough (we’ve already been advised that Luann and Quill are going to end up married, with two kids and a dog, living in suburbia)….

Luann now rated PG-13 veering toward R!

You go, girl!

Just get it over with.

This spring I under took the writing of a book. And what I’ve found is that the characters really do take on a life of their own. Writing , in essence, their own stories. It’s kind of like taking dictation. Quill is a real live person in side Evans’ mind. Quill is in love with Luann. No different or less intense than Romeo was with Juliet. Remember Romeo risked everything and paid the ultimate price. Quill will do that too, with no thought for himself. Something happened to Quill before he met Luann that shaped his life and prepared him for this experience. I only hope Luann is worthy of this most excellent opportunity.

YES!

Why is it that girls are the only ones who are “not ready”? Guys are always assumed to be chomping at the bit whereas their girlfriend has to overcome some undefined barrier before they are “ready”. It would be interesting if a story would examine what female readiness actually meant. The impression I get is that it is treated as a barrier of pure emotion, and not emotions in the sense of things like love, hate, and the like but rather in the sense that of pure irrationality and arbitrariness. To me not being ready should mean the inability or unwillingness to deal with the consequences of action. Teenagers of course lack the ability, especially in today’s world, to make long term rational decisions taking into account the full breadth of consequences that may result from action. Quill has been done a disservice in that he was never taught enough responsibility to understand that just because a woman says she’s ready doesn’t mean that he is ready to deal with what may result from the physical act of love.

@drewder NOT READY means not ready to risk pregnancy.

Wouldnt it be ironic if it is Gunther who loses his v card first?

oh c’mon. by now you guys should know they’re not actually talking about sex lol

Aw. Greg has a lot of stories to tell, but I would be mightily pleased if these two end up at the altar some day.

Oh, ‘Sweet Betsy From Pike!’“Mr. Oz” Restrains Himself (Which Is What He SHOULD Do)and Just about everybody around here Applauds Him as Some Kinda “Hero.”Gunther does the SAME Thing Yet He’s Considered a “CREEP.”CRIPES!!Luann? Hurry up and Say Your Predictably Long and Tearful ‘Goodbyes’ and get this Joker on a Bus or a Plane (I’d AVOID Amtrak) and GET Him To New York Forthwith!

And Advise Him when He Gets on the Subway, Not to “Manspread.” THAT Will Get Him Arrested Up There.You Know, On Second Thought….,

Guys are always ready!

In the real world, hormones trump the head and heart (almost) every time.

In my opinion, I think today’s effort shows maturity on the part of Luann and bland Quill. I also think today’s comic represents quite well, real-world actions by two young 18 year olds who are THINKING about their individual and mutual futures. I find this presentation to be fair, appropriate, and realistic. For those of you who are suggesting this is “not realistic” I would suggest the following…. I can grant you that there is a percentage of folks who do not have much control over their impulses (whether it is for copulating or for anything else…. speeding, shoplifting, etc)…. that is a given. But, for the way we have seen Luann brought up, and the way she usually acts, she is showing at least some thought and reasoning behind her actions. The same holds true for what we know about bland Quill. Whether or not Luann and bland Quill eventually copulate (prior to marriage or after marriage), the fact that they are both spending some time thinking instead of just reacting with virtually no impulse control is a very good thing.

Okay, okay, enough teasing. Bring in Nancy and Frank so, at least, someone has the green light to do it.

“Just tell me what ya want,What ya really really want”

.You figure it was foisted upon us by a supernatural source?

Mad when they have sex in the prop room.

Mad when they DON’T have sex in the prop room.

Mad.

Where ARE Crystal and Knute? I miss them.

As a couples’ event it gets a “5”. I gave it a 6.5 but that damn East German judge…

Things have changed since the first few attempts where he was the one to clamp a lid on it. . . . . "-—————-Not totally. It was he who suggested TALK, and he who turned on the light. .Now he has Luann cooling off. So he can “go along with” her changed mood.

They’ve been dating and (presumably) making out for HOW long now? The dialog reads like it’s the first time they’ve had to have this conversation. Totally unbelievable.

This is like a toilet paper or feminine hygiene product commercial on TV. Just what are they talking about?

if it was an after school special

Luann : here Kiss meQ :no no we should not kiss, we are not married yetL: when should we get married?Q: as soon as we get good pay jobs and your dad give us his blessing-———————————-is sad that so many people(I am not going to assume the “applaud what is happening between Q and L” are old geezers and ones “who want L to not be a virgin” are 30 or less) want strips to be a MTV show or a ABC family show and not a regular network TV show(newsflash, as much as some think so, this is not a Disney channel show) ……………………………..’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’as I shown, for first year college kids, Lue represents about 55% of girls in the USA and Q represents about 30% of kids who are in college at the USA, so this is fairly typical of 1st year college people, they go to 2nd and even 3rd base but have decided not to go to round all the bases, it is almost certain(but will never be shown or implied YET) that Lue has masturbation experience and so it is with Q ……………………… Q and L are portrayed as human beings who are barely able to contain themselves but ARE NOT SAINTS and should be celebrated for not being people who become “have sex at least 3 times a week” or worse, promiscuous people who do not think of consequences of being intimate with anyone

Predictable and unrealistic . . . disappointing, too. This is how it happens on TV shows when the writers try to show how most parents WISH it would happen. The teens aren’t buying it, and neither am I.

I tend to agree with both of you (Caldonia and RB2) about “Why not just skip the issue [copulating] entirely?” and focus on other story arcs. I think because the issue of sex can be so very multifacted…. AND because (like Dave 53 suggests) it can become such an “After School Special” sort of schlocky melodrama…. it would be more entertaining IMO to address the myriad of other aspects of their relationship, work, and school.

I’m glad it has come to this turn of event, but Quill is not like most of the guys I knew in my teen years. The exceptions were… Oh, now your name is Sabrina. (If there are any "other than heterosexual readers taking offense, I am not attempting to put you down. I’m just stating facts as I have experienced them.)

RB2…. I think you miss my point. I said the thought process they are going through is realistic for young 18 year olds who have impulse control. I think both of them do. I personally think your suggestion that second and third base milestones should be presented at this stage of their relationship is unrealistic. I mean, realistically, are we supposed to have Greg draw a naked Luann and a naked, bland Quill? I think not. From the disheveled nature of Luann’s and bland Quill’s clothing, the suggestion is that a base or two beyond first may have been reached. Again, I do not think it is unrealistic for two 18 year olds to choose to wait to copulate… even if they have been dating “for a whole year” or more. A lot of folks have more impulse control than that.

as I said, lot of people ASSUME or act like that 99.44% of teens in 1st year at college already had coitus when I already established that for girls over 55% have not done coitus and this arc IMPLIES that Lue has reached or almost reached 3rd base and was almost going all the way except that Q and L do not want to if the other does not want to(if one of them have said “let’s do it” they would have done it) and is almost implied she has masturbated(people are more likely to masturbate if they already go to 3rd base or even 2nd base) …………. for boys is 25 to 30% but that is another matter(assume lot of boys either go to the ones from the 45% who have multiple partners or they visit escorts) ……………….. this is your quote " missing it’s target audience anyway" (teens) which makes it sound like you think 99% of teens want characters to have done it ……………. and I do not think is about Evans preaching, but the Evans wanting to establish where their characters stand AT THIS MOMENT

He wants to but he respects Luann. What a gentleman Quill is.

I love the comic, but Evans is really, REALLY disconnected from reality sometimes. . . . . "-—————————-Give him slack. Evans has experienced some of this slice of reality. ! !,And after all, this is a comic strip and need not aspire to existential realism in any way.

Quill says he was not ready if she was not ready. I am venturing a guess that means that if she was ready, he would be ready also.-Neh, I think he’s taking the out she’s giving him. -“Oh, weill if YOU aren’t ready, then neither am I!”“OK I changed my mind, I’m ready now!”“Oh! Um…uhh…boy it’s getting late, we better get you home!” , , , , ."-——————————Well put. That’s how I see it as well.

a point to those readers who make wild assumptions, not a preach of values, he wants to ESTABLISH that his character Luann is still a virgin

Personally, I can’t accept that Gunther went to Peru for a full semester with Rosa and came back chaste as a baby llama.

I ain’t the worst that you’ve seen.Oh can’t you see what I mean?Might as well jump. Jump!Go ahead, jump.Might as well jump. Jump!Go ahead, jump.

Not to rub it in, but if they’re not ready now, they apparently had just kissing & cuddling going “great” when Lu and Brad where shooting hoops— and she was “scoring”. Sometimes, it pays to have a clean mind, guys.

as funny as it might sound to some, if we go by “2nd and 3rd base” (not thinking all the way)……….. the girls who are basically 100% likely to have done it are Luann and Toni and even Bern(with Zane), Knute and Crystal is hard to read, could be either way………….. Delta is also hard to read, she has high standards but at same time if she makes a decision, she makes one wholeheartedly, and Rosa is 50-50 (no way that in Peru, specially during the village stay, that she and G have not gone at least second base ………….G I don’t see as being shy to be with a GF, but someone who is not? coughTiffcough he would be shy to do it) …..the one who is least likely to have gone to 3rd base(maybe she did second but there is a chance she has not either) is Tiff, she is all about image, and being taken to a nice restaurant or concert and such so she is a tease and a flirt but never seen her going farther than that, even with Aaron (he seems to have gone farther with Luann and Diane and even the deaf girl than with Tiff)

I’m a new fashion kind of parent and I completely approve. Sex positive experiences are all about communication and mutual consent. Very happy to see this in a main stream comic strip.

Also, I am glad Evans’ decided to focus on Luann and Quill, rather than Toni and Bwad.

“I’m seeing more Karen involvement here than Greg … telling men how women should be treated.”.And I have the impression that a few here can use that telling.

It would be funny to see Tiffany tell Gunther that she’s not ready yet. Maybe Luann & Tiff should have a girl’s night out. That could be a short arc with an interesting conversation. They might joke about swapping. Actually I think Luann could help Gunther more than anybody else could. But at a point – I would want Liann to move on. Luann has the spark of life more than Gunther.

I believe this is getting to be a little Pollyanna-like here. The average age of first sexual intercourse in the United States is 17.0 for males and 17.3 for females (Kinsey Institute).

Hurray for common sense!

“by those who have unnatural desires. Or maybe just natural to them.”.So you admit unnatural desires are natural?Does that imply natural is unnatural?

“If he felt the need to establish it, then he’ll also have to stop the constant references to Luann possibly having sex.”.Have to?Most worry is about what HASN’T happened rather than what HAS..Yet Evans survives somehow.Go figure.

Maybe it seems unrealistic but why not a world where a guy waits till his girl is ready and they talk things over and know that there are pitfalls. Are males really that unable to wait???

I think you’re right. It’s not very family friendly to bring up the subject and add, “Don’t do this before marriage, kids—it’s only for making babies!” It would better to give subtle hints:-A) Those who are really young can ignore it because the hints will go over their headsB) Older kids can avoid having their intelligence insultedC) Those who disapprove of “tales of ribaldry” can ignore it because the hints will go over their heads

Luanne is smart and sensible…Quill loves her and wants what’s best for her….smart young adults….

Out at third? Second? They’re way past first. I’m guessing third.

Every stage manager I ever met, one that is dedicated to his craft as Quill! keeps professing, didn’t have time to play tonsil-hockey with his needy girlfriend in the school’s prop room.

Silly question, how is it that Luann and Quill have visually gone farther than the engaged Brad and Toni? Just thinking out loud.

Yeah, I’ve realized that sex, like most other things in life, is best when the time—and the person—is right

Smart kids.

Well. this is an anticlimax in more than one way, if you know what I mean. Not that we were expecting anything else. This probably means L. won’t be going to NYC with Q. either, because we all know New York is the city where everyone gets theirs, and Luann’s going to die a maiden. Quill, however, will hit it off (and get it on) with a hot female theater intern, and once more Luann will wind up bereft. Ah, summer! I can’t wait for the frustration and disappointment.

@Wiselad“for the most part we have been talking about FIRST YEAR COLLEGE GIRLS today, that Average hobiephil quoted would add the ones who never went to college and those who did not finish HS…… making it different……”.Statistics are wonderful and useful things.They do not predict the actions of individuals, however.It is silly to expect Luann or even a real person to do anything or everything based on reported averages, just as it would be silly to declare it unrealistic because they don’t have 2.5 children or because Luann isn’t 17% black and 19% Hispanic and 50.2% male.

Why Thank You, Scoonz!That was Most Gracious Of You.

@Scoonz“Seriously, Pal, you ain’t no saint when it comes to expressing yourself. A grade school kid could express his thoughts in writing better than you do but if you want to continue to strut your stuff, please do.”.You should replace the word “saint” with the word “scholar” for your sentence to make sense. Saints historically have not been required to be good writers.

@Scoonz “I’m gettin’ me a fruit tree this summer and I’m gonna call it my Puma tree! When do you start getting fruit?I’m not up on fruit trees at alll.”.It depends on the fruit tree.Grafted trees often have fruit on them when you buy them and continue to make fruit.

“Maybe it means that minority ideas shouldn’t be made law to force everyone else to follow them.”.The Bill of Rights was written to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

That is much more common than the minority writing laws to force the majority.

@Dave.53.“Let’s face it, the vast majority of us here are “north of 40” …”.But I’m young at heart.

> Let’s face it, the vast majority of us here are “north of 40” …>If age is measured as degrees North, most of us are on the outskirts of Fairbanks, Alaska!

Am I the only one who thinks we haven’t seen the last of her childhood crush, Aaron? This would be a perfect time for him to reappear.

Not very realistic. How many hot and bothered teens would BOTH call it quits right when things got heavy? Not likely…….. one, maybe, not both.

Good for you both!

Too much emphasis on realistic vs. not realistic. (1) It’s a comic, duh and (2) There is actually more drama to the story if Evans drags it out a bit. Not to be too extreme, that’s why porn is more boring (and short) than a well done love story.

glad that it looks like we will not get anymore spoilers of next week, and little by little is being fixed(looks like they decided to leave them as they are until each correct date comes instead of making them disappear)

I’m seeing more Karen involvement here than Greg … telling men how women should be treated. . . . . . "-—————————————Greg had intended to send Quill off to Australia for good. Karen got him to call Q. back. .So until Karen gets tired of diddling with Q, we are likely to have him.

one possible storyline(realistic according to what we know of characters and what has been shown and said) would be how Lue would feel if Quill would be “generally faithful to Lue” BUT decides to call an escort service girl and she finds out(or Q tells her) as Q said he is ready to be intimate(could mean that he might feel ready to get married to Luann or that he might be aroused with the idea of losing his virginity)

There will be female interns in NY and most will probably be smarter than Luann and genuinely cuter than Tiff. .Some may find Quill attractive and/or exotic and thus be eager to do what they can to please him.

Or when in NYC, Quill falls for newly arrived actress Caitlyn Hill (formerly Aaron)…

and she replies, “should I practice also and get paid?” and he says “only if it is with me” or they could decide to make money by showing how they cuddle on a website, you will be surprised about what some people are willing to pay to see, and some people get paid 60 dollars per hour just to cuddle and snuggle with person paying

they have, the last 3 days have been put as their date’s strip and not the “Saturday’s strip”(5-30) or the Friday one(5-29)

I waited till I was ready. Everyone I dated respected that. It is not archaic. When you educate your children they will approach the situation in a mature manner. I have 2 teenage sons who are also waiting. And no, they are not just feeding me a line. My older step sons waited until they were in their early 20s and with someone they could see themselves with long term. It is faulty to assume teenagers are incapable of self control.

How completely repressed. Somebody needs therapy. I can happily say … this comic has become utterly disinteresting.

With your writing style, I keep hearing your voice with a “Soprano’s” style New Jersey accent. Are you by any chance from that region?

It’s only Wednesday. Luann has 3 days to turn that light off again.

I think Quill’s reaction is realistic, because when I was 19 I said something similar (“if you don’t think you are ready, then we won’t”). This is why my high school girlfriend could three months later lose her virginity to the man she eventually married. Lots of possible plot twists available.

but wouldn’t it be more efficient to just mail directly to the 7 teens in the U.S. who actually follow Luann? Let’s face it, the vast majority of us here are “north of 40” … . . . . "-——————————————How do you know this?

Ah! Popular morality in comic strips stops the magic again!

Just immagine if it got real!

@ct0760yeah…that’s not realistic, it feels like the writings of an old fashioned parent… :/ . . . . ."-—————————————————————Remember Greg’s own personal history – he fathered an illegitimate child when he was too young to marry. The child was given up to adoption. ,So maybe we should forgive him for feeling how he does about this. He is a wounded veteran of parentalism , not some fuddy-duddy.

Or when in NYC, Quill falls for newly arrived actress Caitlyn Hill (formerly Aaron) … . . . . "-———————————-Maybe, I suppose we could use someone transgender here. But Aaron is more likely to be bi- than a candidate for trans-..However, I doubt we will ever see Aaron again..Nevertheless, I’d like to see several of the old characters back. Ben York in particular.

if 2 people want to be “passionate” is their business, but for me is stupid to support someone forcing someone else to do what they don’t want to, so it is always important to respect what the other person does or does not want to do as long as it does not mean not respecting oneself

“But then it only covered white males who owned land. Now it partly covers everyone to varying degrees.”.Because those generous landed, white men extended it to the rest of us. Further, it did not so much limit who they were so much as to who citizens were.Regardless, the point was that you majority types wouldn’t be able to lord it over us minority types. (Ultimately everyone is a minority of one sort or other.)

not necessarily, but it would be like the show “highway to heaven” becoming like “game of thrones” in what they show…………. but I guess the best yardstick might be see the difference between Luann and 9 chickeweed in circulation

I agree with you…. that idea (Luann and bland Quill being naked) was far fetched and not workable.

I’m willing to bet that a LOT of you wanted them to go all in. HA! Gotcha. You ought to have KNOWN BETTER, FOOLS!

They’ll probably break up and lose it to other people down the line. hah!