Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for September 30, 2012

Don’t forget the workhouses for the 47%.

Spoken like a true Republican.

Unbelieveable times we’re living in. Just … wow.

After that, we move on to letting the rapist go free and stoning his victim to death. Or perhaps we could bury her up to her neck in sand next to an anthill and slather her with honey. The possibilities are endless.

Hey, it’s not the SAME prison for her.

It would be nice if the Republicans would stop accepting money from the insurance cos. that finance abortions if they really mean what they say. Try running that by them instead of this tired stuff. Before Roe V. The law allowed abortion ONLY in the case of rape or incest. That wasn’t good enough for the left, but now it’s a talking point? Come on, quit matching them in hypocrisy.

Yeah, but only in cases of “legitimate rape”.

Ryan does have compassion for the victim- she won’t have be in the same prison as her rapist.

Well, it does indicate Ryan might be more into Sharia than the other guys.

Ahhh, the American Taliban Grand Ole Perverts, working tirelessly to redefine rape, prevent women from receiving health care, stop poor kids from getting lunch at school, weakening medicare, social security, unemployment insurance, and any other “collectivist” program so that the poor, maligned rich could finally afford to buy that second car elevator…

I think you’ll need a bigger boat!

There was a time when being a republican didn’t mean the same thing as being a rapist……Ahhh, I long for the good old days when republicans were just racists…..good times….

Which is why the ‘Personhood’ bill simply can’t be allowed to pass.

Makes me vomit just to think about it. ; p

Today’s GOP would rather have the scarlet letter stand for Abortion, due to conflicts of interest.

I want that view from the window.

Just FWIW: making abortion illegal is NOT a good way to reduce the number of abortions. Rich folks will continue to get their abortions unhindered by a little thing like the law – they’ll just buy a willing doctor or travel to anywhere else in the western world. The poor will go back to back-ally abortions and maiming or death.If you really want to cut down on the number, then do what the countries with low abortion rates do. Improve the economic power of everybody, especially women. And make birth control readily and affordably available.

The gop’s short,mid and long range numbers are bleak.This is a last ditch effort to everything on the books before folding.

Maybe he’ll retroactively not sponsor it. Kind of like Mitt retroactively not CEO of Bain when they bought the abortion supplies company.

boggling the mind.

of course, in prison, men & women would both be raped, but it would be the women who would be forced to bear the “personhood” – born in the nursery jail, raised behind bars, and free to join the military.

Noticed commenters here are usually more intelligent than at MSN. Not including myself in that remark.

Yayyyyy! Not only a cogent criticism of Ryan’s warped ethics and politics, but Mike & Kim are baaaack! Huzzah! Wish expressed 2 days ago fulfilled! snoopy dances

it is not the baby’s fault.

By forcible, I am not sure exactly how they define that one either. Must a gun be used? A knife? A fist?

It seems obvious that those who are so strongly against abortion should at least as strongly support contraception. Yet, they are all in favor of allowing Viagra coverage. Maybe they need a little basic Biology instruction. You would think they would know that an erection is needed for fertilization to take place…

The trouble with Congressman Ryan is that he is not really serious about protecting potential human life- you have to back to the sperm and ovuum (each 1/2) . Men are guilty of killing millions of potential lives more than women. Start with the worst murderers- Congressmen.

If a corporation is a person and someone masturbates in a bathroom stall would the janitor then be guilty of murder for cleaning the stall?

“You know, back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraception. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn’t that costly.” – Foster Friess, Rick Santorum’s principal billionaire Super PAC funder. Feb. 16, 2012.In response to suggestion that women are often prescribed birth control for medical reasons, and on birth control in general:“What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception.” – Rush Limbaugh, principal Republican spokesman, Mar. 1, 2012

Paul Ryan America’s Ward Cleaver on steroids and viagra.

You wonder if Mike and the Mrs. text first if they want whoopie?

As a Missourian I knew that Akin was a complete extremist idiot even before his “legitimate rape” comments. Now when McCaskill rips his imbecilities to shreds in a debate he says she isn’t “ladylike.” In other words, Akin is “crybabylike.”

Akin and Ryan make a great team, they should go colonize Jupiter. I’d help pay for rocket fuel.

I cannot foresee Romney allowing the “personhood” law, as described above, going forward. Below is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints published opinionon abortion. Please, do not go off on the religion tangent. This is for information purposes only.

“The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authority and after receiving divine confirmation through prayer.”

In recent years, the language has been amended to include incest as being equal to rape. I know this will not satisfy pro-choicers but it is far better than the pro-Akins crowd. And most conservatives that I know are not fans of blabbermouth Limbough.

Candy was one of the two funniest books I have ever read. The other was called The Hundred Dollar Misunderstanding.

It’s a free country and we have to allow guys like Ryan to speak their ‘mind’, but really, what an embarrassment. Sometimes I think these guys say the most irresponsible things they can think of just to see if anyone swallows it. And the right wing extremists do. Ryan and his 16th century thinkers are a disgrace to logic. They don’t believe in evolution, global warming, or I suppose, heliocentricity, and treat human rights as ‘controversial’. What disease causes that?

Re: in vitro fertilization" ‘It needs to be recognized that the thousands of abandoned embryos represent a situation of injustice that cannot be resolved,’ Vatican theologians wrote in their 2008 bioethics treatise.People who choose in vitro fertilization often create multiple embryos, and select the healthiest to implant. Some families discard the extras, or implant them at a time when they’re unlikely to survive. Those that choose to save them pay upwards of $400 per year to keep them frozen.It’s estimated that there are more than 600,000 embryos frozen in storage in the U.S. . . .

Why is government in this equation at all? I thought the Reeps were all for smaller government. What hypocrisy!

I think you must be lucky if you only know conservatives who don’t like Rush Limbaugh. All of the conservatives I know do like him very much and seem to hang on his every word.

The scariest thing about the strip? You can easily imagine Ryan saying something like this … and getting away with it! Americans need to wake up to the fact that today’s GOP is drifting dangerously close to outright fascism. We can recognize this while there’s time to do something about it or after it’s too late – our choice!

The laws set forth in Leviticus are not complete and can not be understood by a literal reading. None of the hebrew Scriptures are understandable without reference to the classical commentators. “Eye for an eye” is not meant to be taken to put out an offender’s eye, but to require him to compensate the victim for the loss of an eye. The Torah is essentially shorthand notes for a complete way of life that requires the Talmud, the Shulchan Aruch, Rashi and numerous other commentators to understand fully.

Do you bother to check your “facts” at all? George Romney was born in a Mormon mission in Mexico, to polygamist Mormons. When threatened by the Mexican Revolution, the family moved back to Utah. As a young man, George Romney self-funded himself to go as a Mormon missionary to Scotland. George Romney was a Mormon beginning, middle, and end of his life – it was central to his life, and he described his religion as his “most precious possession”.

I’m what OleEd would seemingly consider an impossibility — a liberal with morals. I’m divorced, yet I’ve been celibate for many many years. πBut neither am I a troll.

“It’s just something someone thought up that sounded good and juicy to Dylan to be spread around even if there is no sense to it .”πNo comment.

“Let’s not forget that a woman’s body immediately “freezes” while the rape is going on, so she can’t possibly conceive.Just ask Todd Akins!”πNice satire, babygirl, even if OleEd doesn’t get it.

You are becoming the worst of trolls on this site. Your posts are much like those of one who is not here, GaurdSgt. Please take it down a notch and make intelligent posts and leave the invective in the toilet where it belongs.

When is a troll not a troll?

DT, I swear it’s GuardSgt in a different name.

John Pike is right on this one. The Romneys are very prominent Mormon family. Mitt’s father, George, was born in Mexico because Mitt’s grandfather had gone there to avoid the anti-polygamy laws in the U.S. How much Mormon can you get?

Is it technically possible to change one’s screen name on GoComix and keep right on trolling along? Suppose Guard Sgt., for insance, changed his screen name to OleEd.

Or maybe GoComix finally noticed the flags on GuardSgt and took him down. Then, did GuardSgt return under the new screen name OleEd? Is this technically possible?

No, it can’t be sarge, he never could pass the Turing test. Ole Ed at least comes up with different, if wrong, responses, and learned not to use the F word.

Maybe we should bring back DNFTT. At the same time, just write whatever thoughts you have without considering the troll.

Our family of five moved to Michigan when I was eight years old, in 1948. Dad was a Protestant minister. We were living in Lansing during the time when George Romney served as governor, just a few walking blocks from the capitol buildings. Dad, a staunch Republican, knew gov. Romney personally. Geroge was a fine and decent man. I remember going to his second inaugural address, held outdoors on the capitol building steps.πIt was cold and raining. I remember when they announced the prayer I took my hat off (in the rain, in Michigan, in winter). I remember him saying, “Gentlemen, keep your hats on.” So I put mine back on.πI was the only one in my family who attended. Dad was home watching the event on TV (or listening on radio, I don’t remember which). But after I walked home, I remember talking with Dad, who said he remembered George saying, “Gentlemen, keep your hats on.”πThose were the days. Or daze. Nor do they make ’em like that any more.πI don’t think Mitt could ever fill his father’s shoes.

Why does everything about the question of morality and premarital sex have to fall on the female sex? It seems to me there should be a lot more attention paid to whether or not the person who gets his insurance covered Viagra is married or single! This is never even discussed… It is as if the male role here is just not something to be considered. Let’s hope there is a more effective form of male birth control on the horizon (more than just condoms). Perhaps it is assumed that the male sex is not likely to cause a pregnancy if Viagra is involved? I am sure that this is not true. Women kind of have to deal with their biological clocks, but a man can sire a child when he is 80 if he really wants to…

And I am not talking about 7th graders. I am talking about men and women who live in today’s world. If some choose to be celibate— great. However, many out there are not making that choice and I don’t think they are necessarily immoral so long as they are of legal age. I know many religious and nonreligious people who are certainly sexually active. I would rather not judge whether or not they are moral or not. I do know this, the right can’t have it both ways and in my book that is what they are trying to do by insisting on both Viagra coverage, but no birth control coverage and of course no abortion services.

You do know that of the infamous 47%, almost a quarter are elderly? (10.3% of the total) http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/18/who-doesnt-pay-taxes-in-charts/How many people your age feel like going back to work so you can remove yourselves from Mitt’s “worthless” list?

The vast majority of the other non-income tax payers (28.3% out of the remaining 36.1%) are paying payroll tax. These are workers at or near minimum wage who, after payroll and sales taxes, barely have enough left to feed and shelter themselves. Asking them to pay income tax wouldn’t raise much money, but it would raise the homeless rate.

I wonder if this stupid idea that the woman’s body shut’s down during rape came out of studies some years ago that indicated that conception was more likely if a woman achieved organsm. Maybe some idiot assumed that the reverse would be true.

I don’t necessarily consider sex outside of marriage immoral. I’ve never been married, and probably never will be (but I’m not against the idea), yet I don’t feel that my sexual activity (infrequent though it be) is a millstone around my neck. Particularly in the case of young people (of which I’m no longer one), it seems crazy (not to mention futile) to forbid on moral grounds the single activity that their bodies are telling them is the MOST DESIREABLE AND IMPORTANT AND URGENT ACTIVITY THEY COULD POSSIBLY BE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where the morality comes into it for me is in infidelity. If A and B are in a sexually-exclusive relationship (married or otherwise), and B sneaks off to be with C on the side, B is worthy of condemnation (whether C is also to be condemned depends upon whether C knows about A and B). If you can’t hack fidelity, you have no business leading someone else to believe you can, let alone getting married.

Fair warning to all and sundry: DNFTT

Kim is the perfect foil for Garry’s Sunday strip — attractive, slim, non-white, married, faithful (for all we know) to Mike, liberal, smart . . . you name it from here. πAnd he makes his point with devastating efficacy — the fascistic rightwing is on the march. πIf you want to know what I really really think, deep down, I’ll tell you: I believe that a sizable minority, if not a majority, of opposition to Barack Obama’s re-election bid comes from pure, raw racism. Many people in this country just can’t stand a black president.There, I’ve said it. Let the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” fly..

“Obama has plans to eventually convert our country into either a Marxist, Communist, Socialist or possibly a Muslim state. Or, any other kind of government where the government is in COMPLETE CONTROL over everything.”

Sorry, Ed, you sound quite reasonable for the most part, but this “Marxist, Communist, Socialist, …Muslim state” stuff is not realistic at all. The same balance of power provisions we’ve had for 200 years will still be in effect and Obama won’t be able to sign any law that Congress didn’t pass. The Supreme Court will keep him bound by the rules in the Constitution, and if we as a people don’t like what he does, we can vote for a Republican in 2016. The whole “left wing takeover” thing is just a scare tactic used by right-wing media.

Think about it. The right has 90% of the guns and 70% of the money. How the hell would the left “take over” the country? It makes no sense.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you . . . . DNFTT

Those aren’t actually “laws”. I think you’re talking about executive orders, which have been around since 1789.

Obama did call a lot of attention to what he was doing to score political points against the “do-nothing” Congress, but that the only aspect that’s any different from Bush or earlier presidents.

If an executive order tries to make law instead of just interpreting it, the Supreme Court can step in, as they did for a Truman order in ’52. Obama is still bound by the checks and balances, though there is absolutely no evidence he wants to “take over” in the first place.

Do we even bother to put rapists in jail anymore? Rape used to be a Capital offense in some places — now they just go free. In addition, what woman wants to go thru the hell of trying to prosecute. I work with a Domestic Violence Center and believe me, you have to be brave to take on the male legal world on this issue.

Look it up — I suggest “Google”

Viewpoint clarification: Ryan thinks a baby is a person. Rape does not justify murder. It’s not the baby’s fault. If you don’t think a baby is a person, well then yeah, I can see your point of view. Can you see mine, is the question.

" I personally think Obama and, obviously, the democratic party, are not performing well for our country. They seem to be more interested in obtaining POWER by getting as many votes as possible.".While the Republicans seem to be intent on getting and keeping total power by supressing legitimate voters. But I guess that’s just fine with you.