Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for January 28, 2014
January 27, 2014
January 29, 2014
Transcript:
Knute: "Hold it, Leslie. Crystal's in there. She'll be done in a sec"
Leslie: "Hm! Should be fun!"
Knute: "Hey, Leslie! I told you to cr-"
Leslie: "It's LES! And I don't care what you told me, Doofus!"
Did Knute remember to have his V8?– Or did Knute forget his address, and wound up staying at a Holiday Inn?… – Les was going to the stalls, but can Knute stall Les?… -
It seems Les is still around to “putting the moves on people”….– But this time, Knute thought he’d return the favor!…
Or “i”….. to resurrect the old NWA/AWA/WWWF, there’s a special, breaking “Monday Morning’s Main Event”, in which an impromptu “Stall Cage Match” takes place, and before Leslie can “cheat his way to victory”, G-man comes out of nowhere and “makes the save!”….
or “g(2)”… Joan Rivers and Bob Uecker describe the play by play in the terms of fashion as you mention, with references like " what a clutch purse-suit!"… or “that’s a real nice choker you’ve got on, there!”….
@sara Well, we’ve always known that Les is full ofit. Knute might just knock some of *it out ofhim. OR, Crystal can probably take care of him herself with a well-placed knee in his cojones.
Eh, that choke probably wouldn’t kill him, unless Knute were to not let go for a good while after he went limp. When they go limp, you release the choke. Heh.
@MikeyJ, too bad Knute removed his gloves, he could have infected Leslie with some staff germs as well as all the other horrible possibilities mentioned by the previous commentors.
YAY, Knute! Choke him out! Leslie the pervert-molester needs a reality check, and Knute (who, by the way is no wuss but rather a space cadet with an athletic propensity in his skateboarding) looks provoked enough to administer the smack in defense of Crystal, who has every right to use a vacant boys’ room that is, moreover, being guarded for her security by her pal/boyfriend, This gallantry and manliness by Knute greatly elevates my respect for him (basically from zero to some, an infinite gain). Leslie needs periodic training, whether from Gunther, Oxford, or Knute.
Properly done this can be used to kill an enemy silently in a couple of seconds. But he is using the wrong hold. Must have BOTH arms above the shoulders not one under the arm.
I am utterly disturbed by the amount of people defending Knute. Crystal should not have been in the men’s bathroom in the first place, there’s no reason that Leslie should have been prevented from using the men’s either. The actual outcome should be both Crystal and Knute being suspended. However given how idiotic Greg is, Knute will be rewarded.
Awww so sweet. Knute is not only a gentleman he will fight to protect the dignity of Crystal. I sure hope she appreciates it; I think she will. And don’t worry if Leslie—a true bully and punk—gets the better of Knute, Crystal will intervene to help. She is not a shrinking violet.
Two testosterone cocktails, coming up!Crystal is likey quite capable of taking care of herself if the situation warrants (which this does not).We had a couple of Goth girls in one of my last Tae Kwan Do classes and they could seriously put the hurt on you if they needed to.
I just hope for Knute’s sake he’s not tagged with violence in school under whatever “zero tolerance” policy there may be. It always sucks when a victim that tries to defend themselves only gets nailed for that. And the initial aggressor usually gets off with far less.
And, of course, I hope he can protect both himself and Crystal. Unlike Gunth, he has no “killer back pack.”
-The guy with the girl’s name is earning himself a reputation: getting taken out by the second of the school’s wimps-What Knute did today shows he’s no wimp
Kind of a half nelson sleeper hold. Knute’s right hand needs to be behind Leslie’s neck. A real sleeper hold needs to have both arms behind the neck not under the arm. I don’t know how effective Knute’s hold will be but he is already in BIG trouble and could cause Les to pass out or die.
- Crystal should not be in the boy’s room. If she has an emergency, she should approach a teacher or member of the staff to use one of their restrooms.-I’ve searched Florida Statutes, since there was an effort last year to provide exceptions for transgender students in public schools. I can’t find anything that forbids one gender from using a restroom identified as meant for the other, and I also can’t find the section of law that was under discussion about transgender students.-I suspect that a lot of states have laws on the books about, um, activities other than using the commodes and sinks in public restrooms, but those laws may not restrict use by someone of the opposite gender if there are no facilities available.
Les is one of those guys who just seems to need his ass kicked. We had a bully in school who 50 years later you still want to jump and pound the hell of.
Um, Knute IS the initial aggressor…Before Les blacks out, he wets his pants and since the door is closed nobody else knows. Les will be so ashamed, he’ll tell no one. Crystal will really fall for Knute and everyone emerges without suspensions.
-Get hit by a bully, you both go-Yeah, this is the ‘zero tolerance’ stuff that gets kids expelled for things like pointing a finger at a classmate and yelling ‘bang’ (actually happened somewhere here in Florida…)
Have only read the first 15 at this point..Please note Leslie was not in a hurry for physical needs.Leslie knew the facilities would be at his disposal very soon.Just because a person is nice and accomodating does not mean he is afraid or helpless..It being acknowledged that I like Knute and Crystal, I’m rooting for them..What is more, being publicly defeated by Knute might lead Leslie to reconsider the efficacy of trying to bully his way through life as well as remind the more timid they do not have to allow bullies to dominate them.
" You have to actually sex offend before you become a sex offender."
I don’t think that is entirely true. Iseally, Knutewould let him in, keep an eye on him, and come to the rescue if need be. I don’t thinkneed would be. As it says in the scriptures,’A well placed knee to the cojones assistethmightily the understanding." Les would, I think,regret tangling with Crystal even more than hewould have regretted tangling with Ox.
Knute is the aggressor. He had no authority to block the door to the boys room. Leslie had no reason to believe Knute was telling the truth. Crystal and Knute have no right to commandeer a public restroom any time they feel like it for Crystal’s private use.
- am pretty sure the NRA is not lobbying for students to be carrying guns in school to defend themselves against bullies.-Not exactly, but close. After the episode where the mentally ill boy killed children in a grade school, Wayne LaPiere from the NRA called for all schools to be protected by armed guards. So,strictly speaking, NRA isn’t for the grade schoolers carrying guns; it just supports having armed guards at all grade schools.
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HOWEVER, there are proposals being advanced here in Florida for the Legislature to allow college students to carry concealed on college campuses. Given all the road rage in parking lots on campuses, I’m sincerely worried about this one….
Les may be a jerk, but he’s not doing anything wrong today. Crystal and Knute are both in the wrong. They will be the ones getting in trouble, not Les. What if Les tried to use the girl’s restroom—he’d be in big trouble. It should be the same for Crystal using the boy’s restroom.
“You have to actually sex offend before you become a sex offender.”.True, but I have a nephew I advised parents to never leave alone with small children based on the hunger on his face whenever he looked at them. Only the scummiest people would wait until the damage was done to protect loved ones..Leslie’s expressed intention was not relief of bladder or bowell pressure, but rather to achieve his form of delight at Crystal’s expense. .Knute took him at his word and responded appropriately..Any flaw on Crystal’s part is a separate matter just as police brutality is not justified by previous crimes by those beatten. Pimps feel free to abuse prostitutes because the victims are afraid to seek relief from police due to their own crimes.
Make Knute clean the restrooms for a week????.“NO NO PLEASE NOT JUST ONE WEEK MORE PLEASE”.The mind goes back to STIR CRAZY in which the guards are pulling Gene Wilder out of the sweat box solitary confinement as he begs for just one more week because he “was just getting into myself”.
Leslie did nothing wrong at all. He simply went into the boy’s restroom. Crystal is not in any danger at all. Her stall has a lock on the inside. Les walks past her stall. Crystal should have expected boys to enter the BOYS bathroom. Knute will surely get in trouble, unless this comic is a complete farce.
- Evans, please, stop making your protagonists jerks-I keep asking posters who are annoyed by a comic this question,and people get annoyed with me. But this is a legitimate question,so here it goes.-If you don’t like what you see in a comic, why spend the time reading it? There are so many other comics to read, and life is a lot shorter than most of us think. Why not spend time reading something you like, instead of raging about what you consider to be bad writing?
Have read the first 109 comments at this point..Would like to add that if Crystal had allowed Knute to only guard her stall as originally intended, most of the problem would have been avoided.Knute could have let Crystal know when the coast was clear.Leslie would have been off looking for others to intimidate, never knowing Crystal was even there..Oh the woes of those who ignore simple solutions
“Not that I am taking Leslie’s side or anything, but I feel that , in the real world, you are right. …”^Ding ding ding!!!! Especially in th 3D world, Les can “lawyer up” with an ACLU-like girpe and also assault charches against Knute… – He could have just seen/hoped that “Hound Dog (Les)” go find another stall which, despite his quip in response to Knute’s “warning”, is probably all he was interested in doing at the time), and maybe he would have just been on his way… – Though Knute was entrusted to guard, he could’ve also just said nothing, and hoped that “Hound Dog” didn’t notice anything unusual… – And though Crystal wasn’t supposed to be n there, if Crystal reallyhad to go that bad, then she could have just quietly waited for “Hound Dog” to finish up and leave… but this situation probably was heading for this, anyway…
As others have stated, all Knute really had to do was to follow Leslie into the restroom. He had plenty of time to take action if Leslie started to act ungentlemanly.
Or, maybe,“Crapped-ons Courageous”? ^That’s assuming Leslie was in 2 nd place… he could have been hoping to be #1 ….and then afterward, they both would have been saying “I’m tired!”…(nudge nudge)….
Not a member of the NRA and never will be, and have no connections to sale or manufacture of weapons, but all laws should be lawful and serve a purpose..It seems to me the ones passed and proposed tend to be neither. It is much like the nation’s drug laws, harm to others should be punished, harm done to self should be accepted as the price of freedom, no harm done should not be illegal. Forbidding use of drugs has actually encouraged more drug use and rewarded criminals. Fear of restriction of a right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights scares people who would never bother to buy a weapon int buying while it is still possible. Artificial creation of supply shortage and demand DOES yield higher sales, but that is not supposed to be the reason.
1. Any port in a storm.2. He’s defending Crystal’s honor, which Les was trying to violate. It is Les who is out of line. ^You’re not incorrect! But…. 1.: This will only take care of Crystal’s involvement in all of this… but even then, there could be discipline for going into the Boy’s Room… – 2. In the eyes of the street and the regular world everyday goings on, Knute’s in the right….. but in the eyes of the law and administration, he’s making them have to do extra work and also making them have to deal with a “black eye” on their school’s image, as this will be broadcast (if not by camera crew, then surely by word of mouth) and then their rep will also have to be on the line, because of this….
“But please stop trying to wussify everyone with all the pseudo-legaleze talk. "^It doesn’t even necessarily have to be like that (wussifying)… but in a real life situation, whether for right or wrong, it has the potential to end up like this… in our eyes, it Knute is protecting his lady… but how many times have we as kids had to go through the process of explaining to teachers, parents, etc. why we did what we did, even though in the end we did right?… – Anytime you have to explain your story to one or more persons, at one or more times, you’re more likely to get people who, not having been there, could fall on the other side of Perception/Perspective/Point of view from us… – Again, no matter how right we may be in our actions, having to go before others for our situations, can have the “risk” of putting our case in the hands of the judgment of someone looking in on the outside of our situation, who may not see things the same way…
if I was the judge on the case at most I’ve give Knute a warning. He was defending a lady against a possible aggressor. ^Very practical, simple and less “haggling and wrangling!”… the problem is, though, those types don’t all exist everywhere (School Boards, In-School Admin., etc.)!…
..with foul intent ( “..should be fun”)… ^That most likely could be argued that that was just a remark …his words were not the same as this actions (which most likely was just to use the bathroom)… Les is a “Hound Dog” and a Low Life, but the problem is you can’t just go busting someone for seeming to do something.. same happens with real world law enforcement and people who seem shady, but weren’t in the act of doing anything wrong at the time…..
“What got to him was Les called him “Dufus”.".The Supreme Court has ruled there are “fighting words” so inflammatory that a violent response is reasonable to expect. My brother had a dog named Doofus. He would surely be offended if her name had been misused so egregiously. (She whelped Bertha, Bart, Buford and several other Bs. Bertha was the best but all the others were favored by their recipients.)
As Atomiv said, Les could have very well been thinking that Knute was pulling his chain! …saying “should be fun” isn’t a great remark, but really, the only way Knute could be in the right to do so, is if Les was clearly going to Crystal’s stall, which wasn’t shown.. he very well could have been going to another one… we are ALL debating only on premature, insufficient information, and very little else to go on, until maybe tomorrow’s strip…
What would have solved this , is if Knute put an OUT OF ORDER sign on the door while she was waiting…he likes to clean, and usually cleaners put one up during the process… he should have had one available, even if by makeshift means… – Once she was done, it would have been “all she wrote”, and everyone could get on with it…
-SInce my avocation is writing mystery stories, I read a lot of police reports. Peeking under a stall is not the only thing that happens. Perps who are looking to attack someone find it very easy to just slide right under the side walls of stalls.
again …bull! Les IS the aggressor, by pushing past Knute, clearly with foul intent ( “..should be fun”). Being an aggressor isn’t limited to throwing the first neck hold.-Well said!
Yes, true! But there are also _sting operations, etc _ .in place, and intelligence gathering, by competent (I guess that’s the real key to all of this) law officials, community education/advocacy programs that can be a “preventive measurement” and an effective weapon/tool in the fight on crime and community safety and peace… otherwise, lawyers show up and argue that no bad was being done, and then it can go right back to square one.. – Same for “trafficking” (of substances) and “street companions” for people wishing to “get to know them”… – Common sense, balance and a bit of “mental muscle” to think things through could help in many ways… unfortunately, there is a shortage going around…
" Why do you make your protagonists as selfish and crazy as your villains?"Because the protagonists in this strip have never been portrayed as particularly heroic. Knute in particular has never been known to think before he acts. He should certainly get in trouble for this, but I’m still going to admire the fire in him it shows for Crystal.
Leslie had no reason to believe that Knute was telling the truth. He is a known prankster. Leslie forced his way into a place that he was legally allowed to enter. Knute attacked him for exercising his legal rights.Knute was standing right in the restroom with Leslie. He had plenty of time to retaliate if Knute made a move towards Crystal, which he never did.
“or is rape okay with you?”
I would be pleased if you would refrain from putting words in my mouth.
" with no ramifications for Knute and Crystal, then it’s lazy, bad writing. "Lazy writing would not be new to the strip. There will be no consequences if they are not relevant to the story that is trying to be told in as few frames as possible. We will have to see just what that story turns out to be.
“Leslie is the aggressor, Knute is the protector here. When all the facts are in. The ones you ignore in fact.”
I ignored nothing. Knute commandeered a public boys room for the private use of his girlfriend. He had no authority to keep anyone out. When someone who had the legal right to enter, attempted to do so, he assaulted him.’nuff said.
“Leslie’s attitude was one of violation.” You’re the one who would make a lousy reporter.I alluded to Leslie’s reply twice. He simply did not believe or did not care what Knute had to say. When you gotta go, you gotta go.
Surely nobody actually thinks Leslie intended to try to rape Crystal or Knute simply because was in the toilet.Torment?Yes.Embarrass?Certainly.Shame?Of course, it’s his thing.Rape?Nah, he’d risk loosing something near and dear to him
I’ll buy that she was too desperate to wait, but that doesn’t mean she gets to block the rest of the facilities in the room from their designated gender when Les, or perhaps Gunther or a teacher, might have been just as desperate.
This is a school fight. It will not come down to a court of law. If consequences are going to match likely real world consequences, the two boys will both be in trouble for fighting, no matter who started it. Knute will get a short suspension because it’s his first offense. Les may be expelled due to being a repeat offender. Crystal will get detention for using the wrong bathroom.
ReallyBad – you’ve got a lot of guts defending the strips “villains”. Good for you! Are you a defense attorney? (Yesterday at jury duty, we got to see a good one in action.)
“A repeat offender? Les is a creep (to know that, you’d have to go back to a previous story line) but we’ve never seen him get in trouble for anything.”Which is why I changed my wording from “probably” to “may.” We don’t have the background to know whether he is a repeat offender, but his personality suggests it.—" And we have no evidence, in this comic or others, that he was going to bother Crystal while she was in the stall. Knute attacked him just for being in the bathroom in general, which was well within his rights."I didn’t claim it was fair, just that that is the way schools handle it. They don’t care who was right or wrong, they only care that a fight happened.
Here’s a question…. I’m bringing this up, only because I just realized that we never approached this aspect: – What if it were Knute having to go to the women’s room to go, and some girl came in and Crystal was guarding the door to the restroom?…
Tomorrow:Tiffany shows upsays, “Take it outside, the Tiffany’s Room is out of order and I can’t wait, so this is now the Tiffany’s Room.”.They obey, of course.
“Read my earlier post, where I outlined why Leslie does not have to enter Crystal’s stall to be a PT.”
I have just gone over all of your posts in this thread with the keywords “Peeping Tom”. Nowhere did I see an explanation as to how one can be a Peeping Tom without peeping.
“JUMPING JACKRABBITS, are all of you Leslie defenders reading the same strip?Leslie was about to commit a “peeping Tom” on Crystal, and all Knute is doing is preventing him from doing so!”
“And Leslie was about to be a Peeping Tom, which Knute is attempting to prevent! How many times must I point this out?”
You did say, “No, he didn’t actually open it, but he attempted to, and that is why Knute grabbed him.”
And I asked you where in today’s strip did Leslie attempt to open Crystal’s stall. Perhaps I missed your reply. Please point it out to me so I can read it.
Um, Knute IS the intial aggressor. And Les will take all the blame because this is Luann, where the designated protagonists can act like jerks and come out on top no matter what.
I’d argue that Les drew “first blood” by attempting to force his way into the bathroom, after being told a girl was in there using it. Knute perceived a threat (to Crystal if not himself), and acted upon it.
“Please go back and re-read my post. I said, “And Crystal’s emergence from that stall shoots that defense full of holes”. I never said that she came out. My statement was merely a follow-up reaction to yours.”
What? your own words state that she emerged from the stall, which she clearly has not done, and cannot possibly do until AFTER Knute’s attack, since she has not done so already! Therefore Leslie’s defense, that “I did not believe a word that Knute was saying” is sound.
He does not say he wants to peep at Crystal. Other than relishing the idea of tormenting her a bit, he has not expressed any desire except to relieve himself.
“Ok, I give up. What, other than his own ego, is near and dear to Les?”His reputation for being dangerous, once he gets his butt handed to him by Crystal.
Even though Evans has placed the stalls where the urinals were yesterday, Crystal is still (supposedly) situated in the middle of the three stalls. In today’s comic, Leslie appears to have already passed stalls 1 & 2 without seemingly checking to see which one is locked, and thus, occupied.Other than maligning Knute and being intent on getting his business taken care of, what is his offense requiring a violent attack?
Part of the number of comments may be related to storm-caused nothin else to do.School out in Escambis County, Florida, ice on roads, freezing rain and sleet, snow expected shortly, me not going out without very good reason, don’t need a good reason to comment
The guy with the girl’s name is earning himself a reputation: getting taken out by the second of the school’s wimps.^^Knute is a skater boy, so, he must have some athletic ability
What should be done is an grand entrance into the 21st century – even the 20th century and having an integrated rest room for both sexes..With clever and respectful design, this can be done.^^No thx
Did I mess up these events any? Is this not what we were just shown?
I think you may have exaggerated the facts a little to facilitate your position. I think you meant “Les” in your item 3) above and not Knute. And I don’t see Knute laughing anywhere. But, your opinion, perhaps, and you’re entitled to it, as I am to mine.
Bottom line: Les forced his way into a bathroom after being told a girl was using it. As a result, Knute perceived a threat to Crystal, and acted on it. Self-Defense.
Guess the gallery has gone quiet. Probably waiting on Theodoric’s decision to be handed down… :)^And now we know why Shakespeare wrote “Much Ado About Nothing”.. he had 5 minutes to spare until they sent the limo for him to go to the screening of his movie “Alfa Romeo and the Juliard Graduate”….
Okay, my president is through speaking so where were we?.What would we do if Gunther shoved Knute aside for any reason whatsoever?.Die of shock, most likely. Gunther is not self-centered or agressive. It would be as out of character as Leslie showing respect and concern for the needs and desires of others.Same thing with Quill. He has been so respectful of girls that some insist he isn’t interested. Most unlikely he would treat a request to wait, “she’ll be done in a sec” as an opportunity to push past with, “should be fun.” At the VERY MOST we can imagine him saying, “Sorry mate, but this won’t wait,” with no history of or threat of disrespect of the temporary needs of others..Referring to them as A, B, and C sounds mpartial
Knute has no authority whatsoever (1) to allow Crystal to use the men’s room and (2) to prohibit Les Know from doing so, and (3) certainly not to physically assault another student who has done nothing at all toward Crystal and shows no apparent intention of doing so. Knute should be expelled and then arrested. Of course, the Luannverse makes up its own laws not according to the actual actions to according to who is doing them, so Les will be shunned as a villain and Knute will be hailed as a hero. The Luannverse is Superman’s Bizarro Planet.
Knute is in the wrong, but he is not being a big jerk. He is being the thoughtless doofus he always has been. His priorities are something other than what is technically right. Smarter guys than him have gone a little over the top when a known misogynistic bully has approached their girlfriend when she was in a vulnerable position.
His actions, so far, have been exactly the same as they would have been in Crystal’s absence, if someone is blocking his access to the bathroom. I hate Les, and I really like Knute. I’m delighted by Knute’s behavior here, but he is the aggressor and Crystal’s demand was unfair.
Re. “…723 comments” on Toni and Brad’s engagement strip. How did you all keep up on all of the directions the comments must have been going?! I am totally blown away… =-O
My dog is bugging me to put her to sleep in her kennel Right Now…hmmm, “sleep” is not that bad of an idea at the moment… ’Nite all of you night-owls… ;)
Leslie’s “Hm! This should be fun!” after being told Crystal was in the restroom can reasonably enough be argued as a potentially threatening statement, which would very likely be enough to create a grey area around any claim of unprovoked assault.
One would hope Knute or Crystal would be sharp enough to bring up the incident where Les was physically aggressive with Rosa as part of why Knute had reason to fear for Crystal’s immediate safety.
Everybody involved will likely receive some discipline, but nothing life changing.
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
Goodness! I hope Crystal appreciates that. Knute is really putting himself out there for her.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Did Knute remember to have his V8?– Or did Knute forget his address, and wound up staying at a Holiday Inn?… – Les was going to the stalls, but can Knute stall Les?… -
It seems Les is still around to “putting the moves on people”….– But this time, Knute thought he’d return the favor!…
jemgirl81 almost 11 years ago
Yeah. Put a headlock on the perv!
Swalb%515 almost 11 years ago
Way to go, Knute !!
swami mommy almost 11 years ago
Les, in the first panel, looks like he needs some ex-lax.
ILuvLu almost 11 years ago
it’s got to be true love!!!!
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
Careful, Knute, Leslie’s gotta go. This could get messy.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
“Stall Tactics”“Corporals Courageous”“One Les, Conscious Person”“The Hard Knox Life”
“Clutch Performance”or “Choking In The Boys Room”
Templo S.U.D. almost 11 years ago
It’s a shame Leslie’s first name isn’t Lester. “Leslie the Moleslie” doesn’t have good ring to it; it sounds like a breakfast cereal.
wiselad almost 11 years ago
he has more cojones than Gunther
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
“Brought to you” by… – Cheaties…. “The Breakfast of somebody else!”… – Crocade…. “When you perform better, we’ll add more sugar!”… -
and by…Flunkie Soup… “You’ll be good and hungry! … Once you get the can open!”…
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Or “i”….. to resurrect the old NWA/AWA/WWWF, there’s a special, breaking “Monday Morning’s Main Event”, in which an impromptu “Stall Cage Match” takes place, and before Leslie can “cheat his way to victory”, G-man comes out of nowhere and “makes the save!”….
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
or “g(2)”… Joan Rivers and Bob Uecker describe the play by play in the terms of fashion as you mention, with references like " what a clutch purse-suit!"… or “that’s a real nice choker you’ve got on, there!”….
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Considering that Crystal violated the rules by being in the boys’ room in the first place, the disciplinary meeting ought to be interesting.
ai_vin almost 11 years ago
You know you can hurt someone with a hold like that. . . I hope.
bluegirl285 almost 11 years ago
Whoa! Go, Knute!
honeysum almost 11 years ago
COOL YAY
SackofRabidWeasels almost 11 years ago
Is Knute going for a Cobra Clutch or a Katahaijime?
How does Greg know about this stuff?
ShagsCA almost 11 years ago
Looks like battery to me…
Angelalex242 almost 11 years ago
Well…at least we now have a vague clue of what Crystal might possibly see in Knute. Did she know that kind of fire was there all along?
kenhense almost 11 years ago
Crystal will help if Knute winds up needing it.
alasko almost 11 years ago
And Knute gets 5 years for manslaughter. No Les, no more.
watmiwori almost 11 years ago
@sara Well, we’ve always known that Les is full ofit. Knute might just knock some of *it out ofhim. OR, Crystal can probably take care of him herself with a well-placed knee in his cojones.
watmiwori almost 11 years ago
@argy.bargy2 from yesterday There are any number ofironies about Adolf & Co.
None of the bigwigs look anything like the aryan übermenschthey think they are. Hitler, Himmler, Hess, Goebbels & Göringare a bunch of belches,
If there IS such a thing as an Aryan race, it consists of littlebrown men, like Gandhi.
If Adolf hadn’t been der Führer, he’d a prime candidate ( withhis early-onset Parkinson’s, and his adsdiction to speed) for T-4 euthanasia.
DaJellyBelly almost 11 years ago
Where’s all of the paraphernalia that was around Knute’s waist yesterday?
melmarsh9v almost 11 years ago
Toiletcleanerman to the rescue!
evergrey almost 11 years ago
Eh, that choke probably wouldn’t kill him, unless Knute were to not let go for a good while after he went limp. When they go limp, you release the choke. Heh.
Ratbrat almost 11 years ago
Originally a boy’s name but it crossed over some time ago and now it is a name for either or both!
Ratbrat almost 11 years ago
I did not know that Gunther could actually get angry. He must be crazy about Crystal.
Mordock999 Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Atta Boy, Knute!!!
’Bout Damn Time SOMEBODY in THIS Strip Learned to FIGHT Back!
Gunther SHOULD Take Some Lessons from YOU!
Now TIGHTEN Your Choke Hold and Don’t Forget to Make a WISH!
reedkomicks Premium Member almost 11 years ago
@MikeyJ, too bad Knute removed his gloves, he could have infected Leslie with some staff germs as well as all the other horrible possibilities mentioned by the previous commentors.
Tom_Tildrum almost 11 years ago
What’s Knute’s defense here? “I was blocking the men’s room and Leslie tried to use it”? Seriously?
reedkomicks Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Knute the bathroom bouncer. He’s probably going to just walk him out.Leslie entered the bathroom with ill intent.
Liam Astle Premium Member almost 11 years ago
“And that officers is when I broke his neck.”
Nighthawk700 almost 11 years ago
Flashback!! The last panel looks similar to “For Better or For Worse” when Grrr-Anthony grabbed the guy who was harassing Elizabeth.
Hugh Manatee almost 11 years ago
Um…Knute & Crystal? Isn’t this supposed to be the turning point in the Gunther-Rosa arc?
Hugh Manatee almost 11 years ago
Um…Knute & Crystal? Isn’t this supposed to be the turning point in the Gunther-Rosa arc?
Simon_Jester almost 11 years ago
I soooo much wanna see this goon vs. Ann Eiffel
milania almost 11 years ago
Way to go Knute!
Sisyphos almost 11 years ago
YAY, Knute! Choke him out! Leslie the pervert-molester needs a reality check, and Knute (who, by the way is no wuss but rather a space cadet with an athletic propensity in his skateboarding) looks provoked enough to administer the smack in defense of Crystal, who has every right to use a vacant boys’ room that is, moreover, being guarded for her security by her pal/boyfriend, This gallantry and manliness by Knute greatly elevates my respect for him (basically from zero to some, an infinite gain). Leslie needs periodic training, whether from Gunther, Oxford, or Knute.
Icorps1970 almost 11 years ago
Properly done this can be used to kill an enemy silently in a couple of seconds. But he is using the wrong hold. Must have BOTH arms above the shoulders not one under the arm.
Willow Mt Lyon almost 11 years ago
Good for you Knute. If Ox shows up it will really be a showdown.
TheLiam almost 11 years ago
I am utterly disturbed by the amount of people defending Knute. Crystal should not have been in the men’s bathroom in the first place, there’s no reason that Leslie should have been prevented from using the men’s either. The actual outcome should be both Crystal and Knute being suspended. However given how idiotic Greg is, Knute will be rewarded.
luann1212 almost 11 years ago
Awww so sweet. Knute is not only a gentleman he will fight to protect the dignity of Crystal. I sure hope she appreciates it; I think she will. And don’t worry if Leslie—a true bully and punk—gets the better of Knute, Crystal will intervene to help. She is not a shrinking violet.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 11 years ago
Two testosterone cocktails, coming up!Crystal is likey quite capable of taking care of herself if the situation warrants (which this does not).We had a couple of Goth girls in one of my last Tae Kwan Do classes and they could seriously put the hurt on you if they needed to.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Knute attacked a boy who was doing nothing but entering a legally designated space. He’s going to be suspended, if not expelled.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Knute attacked a boy who was doing nothing but entering a legally designated space. He’s going to be suspended, if not expelled.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
And Leslie’s defense? Knute is a known prankster. He thought that “Crystal is in the boys room!” was just another prank.
TORAD_07 almost 11 years ago
Well….. Good Morning!
I just hope for Knute’s sake he’s not tagged with violence in school under whatever “zero tolerance” policy there may be. It always sucks when a victim that tries to defend themselves only gets nailed for that. And the initial aggressor usually gets off with far less.
And, of course, I hope he can protect both himself and Crystal. Unlike Gunth, he has no “killer back pack.”
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
-The guy with the girl’s name is earning himself a reputation: getting taken out by the second of the school’s wimps-What Knute did today shows he’s no wimp
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
-Wow. I hope I never get on your wrong side!
genorino almost 11 years ago
Kind of a half nelson sleeper hold. Knute’s right hand needs to be behind Leslie’s neck. A real sleeper hold needs to have both arms behind the neck not under the arm. I don’t know how effective Knute’s hold will be but he is already in BIG trouble and could cause Les to pass out or die.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Bull? The law is the law. Knute is the aggressor. Leslie is the victim.
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
- Crystal should not be in the boy’s room. If she has an emergency, she should approach a teacher or member of the staff to use one of their restrooms.-I’ve searched Florida Statutes, since there was an effort last year to provide exceptions for transgender students in public schools. I can’t find anything that forbids one gender from using a restroom identified as meant for the other, and I also can’t find the section of law that was under discussion about transgender students.-I suspect that a lot of states have laws on the books about, um, activities other than using the commodes and sinks in public restrooms, but those laws may not restrict use by someone of the opposite gender if there are no facilities available.
Tim Pickard Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Les is one of those guys who just seems to need his ass kicked. We had a bully in school who 50 years later you still want to jump and pound the hell of.
David Rickard Premium Member almost 11 years ago
ER trip and/or suspension in 5,4,3…
cjswan232482 almost 11 years ago
Sorry, but Leslie is not in the wrong here. Even if Leslie clocks Knute, it is self defense.
Brazoshombre almost 11 years ago
What I love is how jerks like Leslie in the postion always demand their opponent let them go!
jeanandrick almost 11 years ago
knute is about to be expelled
JanBic Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Leslie has been a male name much longer than it has been female. It was Bob Hope’s real name and don’t forget Leslie Nielsen.
genorino almost 11 years ago
Um, Knute IS the initial aggressor…Before Les blacks out, he wets his pants and since the door is closed nobody else knows. Les will be so ashamed, he’ll tell no one. Crystal will really fall for Knute and everyone emerges without suspensions.
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
-Get hit by a bully, you both go-Yeah, this is the ‘zero tolerance’ stuff that gets kids expelled for things like pointing a finger at a classmate and yelling ‘bang’ (actually happened somewhere here in Florida…)
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Have only read the first 15 at this point..Please note Leslie was not in a hurry for physical needs.Leslie knew the facilities would be at his disposal very soon.Just because a person is nice and accomodating does not mean he is afraid or helpless..It being acknowledged that I like Knute and Crystal, I’m rooting for them..What is more, being publicly defeated by Knute might lead Leslie to reconsider the efficacy of trying to bully his way through life as well as remind the more timid they do not have to allow bullies to dominate them.
Waddling Eagle almost 11 years ago
Leslie is a coward and a liar. He will accuse Knute of being a bully.
watmiwori almost 11 years ago
" You have to actually sex offend before you become a sex offender."
I don’t think that is entirely true. Iseally, Knutewould let him in, keep an eye on him, and come to the rescue if need be. I don’t thinkneed would be. As it says in the scriptures,’A well placed knee to the cojones assistethmightily the understanding." Les would, I think,regret tangling with Crystal even more than hewould have regretted tangling with Ox.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Knute is the aggressor. He had no authority to block the door to the boys room. Leslie had no reason to believe Knute was telling the truth. Crystal and Knute have no right to commandeer a public restroom any time they feel like it for Crystal’s private use.
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
- am pretty sure the NRA is not lobbying for students to be carrying guns in school to defend themselves against bullies.-Not exactly, but close. After the episode where the mentally ill boy killed children in a grade school, Wayne LaPiere from the NRA called for all schools to be protected by armed guards. So,strictly speaking, NRA isn’t for the grade schoolers carrying guns; it just supports having armed guards at all grade schools.
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HOWEVER, there are proposals being advanced here in Florida for the Legislature to allow college students to carry concealed on college campuses. Given all the road rage in parking lots on campuses, I’m sincerely worried about this one….
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Remember on DUE SOUTH " the Mounty who looks amazingly like Leslie Nielson"?Played by Leslie Nielson, of course.
locake almost 11 years ago
Les may be a jerk, but he’s not doing anything wrong today. Crystal and Knute are both in the wrong. They will be the ones getting in trouble, not Les. What if Les tried to use the girl’s restroom—he’d be in big trouble. It should be the same for Crystal using the boy’s restroom.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
“You have to actually sex offend before you become a sex offender.”.True, but I have a nephew I advised parents to never leave alone with small children based on the hunger on his face whenever he looked at them. Only the scummiest people would wait until the damage was done to protect loved ones..Leslie’s expressed intention was not relief of bladder or bowell pressure, but rather to achieve his form of delight at Crystal’s expense. .Knute took him at his word and responded appropriately..Any flaw on Crystal’s part is a separate matter just as police brutality is not justified by previous crimes by those beatten. Pimps feel free to abuse prostitutes because the victims are afraid to seek relief from police due to their own crimes.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Make Knute clean the restrooms for a week????.“NO NO PLEASE NOT JUST ONE WEEK MORE PLEASE”.The mind goes back to STIR CRAZY in which the guards are pulling Gene Wilder out of the sweat box solitary confinement as he begs for just one more week because he “was just getting into myself”.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Leslie’s reply may also be taken as what one may say if they think that they are seeing through a prank.
locake almost 11 years ago
Leslie did nothing wrong at all. He simply went into the boy’s restroom. Crystal is not in any danger at all. Her stall has a lock on the inside. Les walks past her stall. Crystal should have expected boys to enter the BOYS bathroom. Knute will surely get in trouble, unless this comic is a complete farce.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Leslie has reasonable cause to expect to use his designated restroom in peace.
slypuma almost 11 years ago
Bad idea. It is the restroom for boys and Knute just committed assault with no authority.
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
- Evans, please, stop making your protagonists jerks-I keep asking posters who are annoyed by a comic this question,and people get annoyed with me. But this is a legitimate question,so here it goes.-If you don’t like what you see in a comic, why spend the time reading it? There are so many other comics to read, and life is a lot shorter than most of us think. Why not spend time reading something you like, instead of raging about what you consider to be bad writing?
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 11 years ago
BAD KNUTE!Unnecessary Roughness! Fifteen Yard Penalty.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Have read the first 109 comments at this point..Would like to add that if Crystal had allowed Knute to only guard her stall as originally intended, most of the problem would have been avoided.Knute could have let Crystal know when the coast was clear.Leslie would have been off looking for others to intimidate, never knowing Crystal was even there..Oh the woes of those who ignore simple solutions
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
And now, for weightwatchers, comes in unopenable cans!^^And complicated instructions on opening the can in Mongolian!…
seanyj almost 11 years ago
Uh-Oh! Somebody go get OX for backup! Knute’s gonna need it!
seyleigh almost 11 years ago
Very true!
seyleigh almost 11 years ago
Exactly. I don’t see anything wrong with using the men’s room when you are desperate, but you shouldn’t kick the guys out of it. That’s just mean.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
“Not that I am taking Leslie’s side or anything, but I feel that , in the real world, you are right. …”^Ding ding ding!!!! Especially in th 3D world, Les can “lawyer up” with an ACLU-like girpe and also assault charches against Knute… – He could have just seen/hoped that “Hound Dog (Les)” go find another stall which, despite his quip in response to Knute’s “warning”, is probably all he was interested in doing at the time), and maybe he would have just been on his way… – Though Knute was entrusted to guard, he could’ve also just said nothing, and hoped that “Hound Dog” didn’t notice anything unusual… – And though Crystal wasn’t supposed to be n there, if Crystal really had to go that bad, then she could have just quietly waited for “Hound Dog” to finish up and leave… but this situation probably was heading for this, anyway…
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
As others have stated, all Knute really had to do was to follow Leslie into the restroom. He had plenty of time to take action if Leslie started to act ungentlemanly.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Or, maybe,“Crapped-ons Courageous”? ^That’s assuming Leslie was in 2 nd place… he could have been hoping to be #1 ….and then afterward, they both would have been saying “I’m tired!”…(nudge nudge)….
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Not a member of the NRA and never will be, and have no connections to sale or manufacture of weapons, but all laws should be lawful and serve a purpose..It seems to me the ones passed and proposed tend to be neither. It is much like the nation’s drug laws, harm to others should be punished, harm done to self should be accepted as the price of freedom, no harm done should not be illegal. Forbidding use of drugs has actually encouraged more drug use and rewarded criminals. Fear of restriction of a right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights scares people who would never bother to buy a weapon int buying while it is still possible. Artificial creation of supply shortage and demand DOES yield higher sales, but that is not supposed to be the reason.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
1. Any port in a storm.2. He’s defending Crystal’s honor, which Les was trying to violate. It is Les who is out of line. ^You’re not incorrect! But…. 1.: This will only take care of Crystal’s involvement in all of this… but even then, there could be discipline for going into the Boy’s Room… – 2. In the eyes of the street and the regular world everyday goings on, Knute’s in the right….. but in the eyes of the law and administration, he’s making them have to do extra work and also making them have to deal with a “black eye” on their school’s image, as this will be broadcast (if not by camera crew, then surely by word of mouth) and then their rep will also have to be on the line, because of this….
RobinHood2013 almost 11 years ago
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
“But please stop trying to wussify everyone with all the pseudo-legaleze talk. "^It doesn’t even necessarily have to be like that (wussifying)… but in a real life situation, whether for right or wrong, it has the potential to end up like this… in our eyes, it Knute is protecting his lady… but how many times have we as kids had to go through the process of explaining to teachers, parents, etc. why we did what we did, even though in the end we did right?… – Anytime you have to explain your story to one or more persons, at one or more times, you’re more likely to get people who, not having been there, could fall on the other side of Perception/Perspective/Point of view from us… – Again, no matter how right we may be in our actions, having to go before others for our situations, can have the “risk” of putting our case in the hands of the judgment of someone looking in on the outside of our situation, who may not see things the same way…
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
if I was the judge on the case at most I’ve give Knute a warning. He was defending a lady against a possible aggressor. ^Very practical, simple and less “haggling and wrangling!”… the problem is, though, those types don’t all exist everywhere (School Boards, In-School Admin., etc.)!…
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Glad I gave you something to hang
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
..with foul intent ( “..should be fun”)… ^That most likely could be argued that that was just a remark …his words were not the same as this actions (which most likely was just to use the bathroom)… Les is a “Hound Dog” and a Low Life, but the problem is you can’t just go busting someone for seeming to do something.. same happens with real world law enforcement and people who seem shady, but weren’t in the act of doing anything wrong at the time…..
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
If ever there were the case to make one watch the show ‘Person Of Interest’ on CBS, this would be it! ….
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
“What got to him was Les called him “Dufus”.".The Supreme Court has ruled there are “fighting words” so inflammatory that a violent response is reasonable to expect. My brother had a dog named Doofus. He would surely be offended if her name had been misused so egregiously. (She whelped Bertha, Bart, Buford and several other Bs. Bertha was the best but all the others were favored by their recipients.)
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Show me where he attempted to open Crystal’s stall. He had already passed it when Knute grabbed him.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
So what? Leslie “needed” to use the boys room too!The one that he had a legal right to use!
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
As Atomiv said, Les could have very well been thinking that Knute was pulling his chain! …saying “should be fun” isn’t a great remark, but really, the only way Knute could be in the right to do so, is if Les was clearly going to Crystal’s stall, which wasn’t shown.. he very well could have been going to another one… we are ALL debating only on premature, insufficient information, and very little else to go on, until maybe tomorrow’s strip…
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Peeping Tom? Crystal was in an enclosed stall, which Leslie made no effort to enter.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
What would have solved this , is if Knute put an OUT OF ORDER sign on the door while she was waiting…he likes to clean, and usually cleaners put one up during the process… he should have had one available, even if by makeshift means… – Once she was done, it would have been “all she wrote”, and everyone could get on with it…
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Note to self: jurys are usually spelled juriesThink child think!
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
She emerged from the stall? Where? I don’t see her in today’s strip. I have to assume that Leslie doesn’t see her either.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
There is no crime for Knute to prevent. An unprovoked headlock is aggravated assault, which is a felony.
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
-SInce my avocation is writing mystery stories, I read a lot of police reports. Peeking under a stall is not the only thing that happens. Perps who are looking to attack someone find it very easy to just slide right under the side walls of stalls.
reedkomicks Premium Member almost 11 years ago
again …bull! Les IS the aggressor, by pushing past Knute, clearly with foul intent ( “..should be fun”). Being an aggressor isn’t limited to throwing the first neck hold.-Well said!
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Yes, true! But there are also _sting operations, etc _ .in place, and intelligence gathering, by competent (I guess that’s the real key to all of this) law officials, community education/advocacy programs that can be a “preventive measurement” and an effective weapon/tool in the fight on crime and community safety and peace… otherwise, lawyers show up and argue that no bad was being done, and then it can go right back to square one.. – Same for “trafficking” (of substances) and “street companions” for people wishing to “get to know them”… – Common sense, balance and a bit of “mental muscle” to think things through could help in many ways… unfortunately, there is a shortage going around…
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Here is a link to the Lynyrd Skynyrd page on Facebook, with a nice workbench to work off of!….
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Greg’s tribute to Morrie Turner..here is the link…
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
" Why do you make your protagonists as selfish and crazy as your villains?"Because the protagonists in this strip have never been portrayed as particularly heroic. Knute in particular has never been known to think before he acts. He should certainly get in trouble for this, but I’m still going to admire the fire in him it shows for Crystal.
Kreature almost 11 years ago
Knute is guilty of assault.
BillWa almost 11 years ago
Beware the Knute!
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
Leslie had no reason to believe that Knute was telling the truth. He is a known prankster. Leslie forced his way into a place that he was legally allowed to enter. Knute attacked him for exercising his legal rights.Knute was standing right in the restroom with Leslie. He had plenty of time to retaliate if Knute made a move towards Crystal, which he never did.
“or is rape okay with you?”
I would be pleased if you would refrain from putting words in my mouth.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
So Leslie has to hold it or wet himself while Princess Crystal doesn’t have to.
Show me where Leslie tried to force his way into Crystal’s stall.
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
" with no ramifications for Knute and Crystal, then it’s lazy, bad writing. "Lazy writing would not be new to the strip. There will be no consequences if they are not relevant to the story that is trying to be told in as few frames as possible. We will have to see just what that story turns out to be.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“When was the last time you only saw a line for the mens and not the women’s?”
Not Leslie’s fault or responsibility. He had to go just as badly as Crystal did.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“I didn’t see any teachers about, did you?”
So? Find one.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“Leslie is the aggressor, Knute is the protector here. When all the facts are in. The ones you ignore in fact.”
I ignored nothing. Knute commandeered a public boys room for the private use of his girlfriend. He had no authority to keep anyone out. When someone who had the legal right to enter, attempted to do so, he assaulted him.’nuff said.
Doctor11 almost 11 years ago
Not when it comes to Knute’s girlfriend, you jerk! Take him down, Knute!
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“Leslie’s attitude was one of violation.” You’re the one who would make a lousy reporter.I alluded to Leslie’s reply twice. He simply did not believe or did not care what Knute had to say. When you gotta go, you gotta go.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Surely nobody actually thinks Leslie intended to try to rape Crystal or Knute simply because was in the toilet.Torment?Yes.Embarrass?Certainly.Shame?Of course, it’s his thing.Rape?Nah, he’d risk loosing something near and dear to him
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
I’ll buy that she was too desperate to wait, but that doesn’t mean she gets to block the rest of the facilities in the room from their designated gender when Les, or perhaps Gunther or a teacher, might have been just as desperate.
davbart92663 almost 11 years ago
Or, Crystal comes out of the stall, takes out Les, and thanks Knife for being brave and ’ defending’ her.
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
This is a school fight. It will not come down to a court of law. If consequences are going to match likely real world consequences, the two boys will both be in trouble for fighting, no matter who started it. Knute will get a short suspension because it’s his first offense. Les may be expelled due to being a repeat offender. Crystal will get detention for using the wrong bathroom.
Kreature almost 11 years ago
Come for the comics; stay for the prolific lugubrious handwringing.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 11 years ago
Violence in the defense of Crystal’s possible embarrassment is unjustified.Knute’s “defense of his mate” is out of proportion.
ACTIVIST1234 almost 11 years ago
Who’s going to save the day— Knute, the G-man, or Ox?
ACTIVIST1234 almost 11 years ago
ReallyBad – you’ve got a lot of guts defending the strips “villains”. Good for you! Are you a defense attorney? (Yesterday at jury duty, we got to see a good one in action.)
ACTIVIST1234 almost 11 years ago
Hope Knute’s move works— that’s one we were taught in every self-defense class I’ve taken!
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
“A repeat offender? Les is a creep (to know that, you’d have to go back to a previous story line) but we’ve never seen him get in trouble for anything.”Which is why I changed my wording from “probably” to “may.” We don’t have the background to know whether he is a repeat offender, but his personality suggests it.—" And we have no evidence, in this comic or others, that he was going to bother Crystal while she was in the stall. Knute attacked him just for being in the bathroom in general, which was well within his rights."I didn’t claim it was fair, just that that is the way schools handle it. They don’t care who was right or wrong, they only care that a fight happened.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Here’s a question…. I’m bringing this up, only because I just realized that we never approached this aspect: – What if it were Knute having to go to the women’s room to go, and some girl came in and Crystal was guarding the door to the restroom?…
Argy.Bargy2 almost 11 years ago
Yep. It was a nice thought by Jay, though!
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Tomorrow:Tiffany shows upsays, “Take it outside, the Tiffany’s Room is out of order and I can’t wait, so this is now the Tiffany’s Room.”.They obey, of course.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“Read my earlier post, where I outlined why Leslie does not have to enter Crystal’s stall to be a PT.”
I have just gone over all of your posts in this thread with the keywords “Peeping Tom”. Nowhere did I see an explanation as to how one can be a Peeping Tom without peeping.
“JUMPING JACKRABBITS, are all of you Leslie defenders reading the same strip?Leslie was about to commit a “peeping Tom” on Crystal, and all Knute is doing is preventing him from doing so!”
“And Leslie was about to be a Peeping Tom, which Knute is attempting to prevent! How many times must I point this out?”
You did say, “No, he didn’t actually open it, but he attempted to, and that is why Knute grabbed him.”
And I asked you where in today’s strip did Leslie attempt to open Crystal’s stall. Perhaps I missed your reply. Please point it out to me so I can read it.
TORAD_07 almost 11 years ago
Um, Knute IS the intial aggressor. And Les will take all the blame because this is Luann, where the designated protagonists can act like jerks and come out on top no matter what.
I’d argue that Les drew “first blood” by attempting to force his way into the bathroom, after being told a girl was in there using it. Knute perceived a threat (to Crystal if not himself), and acted upon it.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“Please go back and re-read my post. I said, “And Crystal’s emergence from that stall shoots that defense full of holes”. I never said that she came out. My statement was merely a follow-up reaction to yours.”
What? your own words state that she emerged from the stall, which she clearly has not done, and cannot possibly do until AFTER Knute’s attack, since she has not done so already! Therefore Leslie’s defense, that “I did not believe a word that Knute was saying” is sound.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“He may be known for pranks, but what about being known for lying?”
It seems to me that a lot of pranks involve getting the victim to believe in something that is not so.
What is the definition of a lie again?
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“So badly that he’d risk an “accident” in his pants just to get a look at Crystal on the commode? Sorry, I can’t buy into your logic.”
You don’t have to. Leslie had a legal right to be where he was.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“He told Knute he “didn’t care,” AFTER he found out Crystal was in there!”
He “didn’t care” if Knute was telling the truth or not. He had to go, and had a right to be in there.
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
He does not say he wants to peep at Crystal. Other than relishing the idea of tormenting her a bit, he has not expressed any desire except to relieve himself.
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
“Ok, I give up. What, other than his own ego, is near and dear to Les?”His reputation for being dangerous, once he gets his butt handed to him by Crystal.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 11 years ago
Even though Evans has placed the stalls where the urinals were yesterday, Crystal is still (supposedly) situated in the middle of the three stalls. In today’s comic, Leslie appears to have already passed stalls 1 & 2 without seemingly checking to see which one is locked, and thus, occupied.Other than maligning Knute and being intent on getting his business taken care of, what is his offense requiring a violent attack?
Terrywoebegone almost 11 years ago
Yeah Knute, no weak kneed Gunth here.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Part of the number of comments may be related to storm-caused nothin else to do.School out in Escambis County, Florida, ice on roads, freezing rain and sleet, snow expected shortly, me not going out without very good reason, don’t need a good reason to comment
Mikeyj almost 11 years ago
The guy with the girl’s name is earning himself a reputation: getting taken out by the second of the school’s wimps.^^Knute is a skater boy, so, he must have some athletic ability
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“That’s because Knute prevented him from completing the attempt.”
THERE.WAS.NO.ATTEMPT.Leslie walked PAST Crystal’s stall. He didn’t even turn his head to LOOK at it.
atomicdog almost 11 years ago
“His actions are speaking volumes”
His actions are someone who needs to pee.
Mikeyj almost 11 years ago
What should be done is an grand entrance into the 21st century – even the 20th century and having an integrated rest room for both sexes..With clever and respectful design, this can be done.^^No thx
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Is that the version by “Poundsville” Station? =o)
^No, Mötley Whüe!….
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
It’s not that we don’t get it, it’s that we don’t perceive it the same as you….
ManateeGag almost 11 years ago
Knute SMASH!
TORAD_07 almost 11 years ago
Did I mess up these events any? Is this not what we were just shown?
I think you may have exaggerated the facts a little to facilitate your position. I think you meant “Les” in your item 3) above and not Knute. And I don’t see Knute laughing anywhere. But, your opinion, perhaps, and you’re entitled to it, as I am to mine.
Bottom line: Les forced his way into a bathroom after being told a girl was using it. As a result, Knute perceived a threat to Crystal, and acted on it. Self-Defense.
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Hope for resolution for things, Brd!….. — Which includes your dear loved ones’ recovery!!!!
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
No Seismic, today.. hope all’s well with you, too!…
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
339 and counting…
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
The Ben Triplets and a “mid-life crisis” (340)……
lindz.coop Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Yay Knute!!
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Guess the gallery has gone quiet. Probably waiting on Theodoric’s decision to be handed down… :)^And now we know why Shakespeare wrote “Much Ado About Nothing”.. he had 5 minutes to spare until they sent the limo for him to go to the screening of his movie “Alfa Romeo and the Juliard Graduate”….
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Okay, my president is through speaking so where were we?.What would we do if Gunther shoved Knute aside for any reason whatsoever?.Die of shock, most likely. Gunther is not self-centered or agressive. It would be as out of character as Leslie showing respect and concern for the needs and desires of others.Same thing with Quill. He has been so respectful of girls that some insist he isn’t interested. Most unlikely he would treat a request to wait, “she’ll be done in a sec” as an opportunity to push past with, “should be fun.” At the VERY MOST we can imagine him saying, “Sorry mate, but this won’t wait,” with no history of or threat of disrespect of the temporary needs of others..Referring to them as A, B, and C sounds mpartial
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 11 years ago
Sounds impartial and is, but the demeanor, words and history really DOES come into play for justice.
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Knute has no authority whatsoever (1) to allow Crystal to use the men’s room and (2) to prohibit Les Know from doing so, and (3) certainly not to physically assault another student who has done nothing at all toward Crystal and shows no apparent intention of doing so. Knute should be expelled and then arrested. Of course, the Luannverse makes up its own laws not according to the actual actions to according to who is doing them, so Les will be shunned as a villain and Knute will be hailed as a hero. The Luannverse is Superman’s Bizarro Planet.
ORMouseworks almost 11 years ago
347 comments??!! Greg must be ecstatic, or at the least have bragging rights… ;)
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 11 years ago
There are potentially four more days in this story arc.; surely Crystal’s tinkle is done and she can now talk Knute down from his testosterone high.
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
Knute is in the wrong, but he is not being a big jerk. He is being the thoughtless doofus he always has been. His priorities are something other than what is technically right. Smarter guys than him have gone a little over the top when a known misogynistic bully has approached their girlfriend when she was in a vulnerable position.
sarafaye almost 11 years ago
His actions, so far, have been exactly the same as they would have been in Crystal’s absence, if someone is blocking his access to the bathroom. I hate Les, and I really like Knute. I’m delighted by Knute’s behavior here, but he is the aggressor and Crystal’s demand was unfair.
junemmoffatt almost 11 years ago
There’s something very familiar about this. Is this strip a re-run?
ORMouseworks almost 11 years ago
Re. “…723 comments” on Toni and Brad’s engagement strip. How did you all keep up on all of the directions the comments must have been going?! I am totally blown away… =-O
ORMouseworks almost 11 years ago
My dog is bugging me to put her to sleep in her kennel Right Now…hmmm, “sleep” is not that bad of an idea at the moment… ’Nite all of you night-owls… ;)
JayBluE almost 11 years ago
Is she by any chance from Betazed?….
parto the p almost 11 years ago
Knute will likely be fine.
Leslie’s “Hm! This should be fun!” after being told Crystal was in the restroom can reasonably enough be argued as a potentially threatening statement, which would very likely be enough to create a grey area around any claim of unprovoked assault.
One would hope Knute or Crystal would be sharp enough to bring up the incident where Les was physically aggressive with Rosa as part of why Knute had reason to fear for Crystal’s immediate safety.
Everybody involved will likely receive some discipline, but nothing life changing.
DevilDog2001 Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Go Knute!
DevilDog2001 Premium Member over 5 years ago
First time I’ve seen Knute like this.