When I was a kid, there was a fast paced card game called “hell”. The adults didn’t want to use that word around the children, so they changed the name of the game to “pounce”. Now things have gone full circle.
Hmmm, now this is causing me some inner conflict. As much as I think Gunther is a controlling, borderline-emotionally-abusive Nice Guy™ who seems to think he owns Tiffany, I also support anything that’ll knock that disgustingly smug smirk off of Les’s face and make him realize that his view of Tiffany as some object to be claimed is hardly better.
There’s literally nobody to root for here. I just want a plane to crash into their little bachelor pad and wipe them both out.
I think Les is so mad because he is really not trying to be that guy anymore and Gunther is just throwing his past in his face. Gunther really be acting holier than tho too when he’s not. Les’s mother is Ann Eiffel it’s a miracle that he is actually showing improvement.
I hate to say this, but Les is right, and women do fall for jerks. And Gunther keeps harping about since third grade. If that rule holds good, I’d have married my childhood sweetheart.
Looks like Gunther is the self-appointed moral policeman of the Luanniverse. He may get punched out, followed by the indignity of realizing he stood up for a lost cause.
Gunther does have a point. All night long, Les has been talking about Tiff as if she was a conquest, a piece of meat, practically drooling with sexual innuendos. Even if Gunth wasn’t attracted to Tiff, as a friend, listening to that all night, would worry me and piss me off too.
How close did Gunther hit to home, to escalate to that response? You’re a “sleazy dirtbag”? Or you just want to “pounce” Tiffany? Which one it is will hint at the future of the Dumbnamic Duo. And, most likely , their relationship with Tiffany.
This whole story line ticks me off so much. And people coming for Tiff like SHE’S the problem tick me off even more. Listen, Tiff has never shown either of these guys that she’s interested in them romantically. She’s treated them like friends. She set up some time to hang out with friends, she even said as much to Gunth. It’s Gunth and Les’ own assumptions that made it something more and pit one against the other. Why? Because she’s a woman and wanted to have a male friend… who now thinks he’s entitled to her romantically. And despite Tiff not doing a thing more than being a friend, she’s being blamed for the ‘nice guy’ Gunth and the ‘bad boy’ Les going at each other, when really, she’s not to blame for their sense of entitlement.
This story line will eventually lead to Gunther being the best/only friend Les has ever had. After the fight he’ll understand Les in the way he’s come to understand Tiffany.
NOTE : look closely at the black balloon for the “SHUT UP” and you’ll see one little curly piece at the back bottom , not following the pattern of the other jagged spikes ( which indicate force of what’s being said) … that little curly piece is pointing down at Les.
no, Tiffany or Mr Gray are NOT there. It was meant to indicate Les as saying it.
Well, boys and girls, I guess we’ll have to wait ’til Monday to find out how or if this is resolved. (Unless G and K decide to take us on a different arc…….Oh, look…Puddles is chasing a butterfly!)
Well it’s not surprising that the way these panels are drawn this scene would occur. I think that Les saying “SHUT UP” means that not only is it hurting to Les to be thought of that way, but he really does not mean to do with Tiffany what Gunther, with his judgmental and jealous self is implying. If Tiffany ever came on to Les sexually he would run the other way so fast because he is not really ready for that kind of relationship. Neither of them really are. One thing is pretty clear: this arc will continue next week.
I’ve always said that this strip was a variation on the Archie series, and this installment underscores the point. Instead of Betty and Veronica maintaining their BFF relationship while competing for Archie, here we have Reggie and Archie (well, more like Reggie and Dilton, actually) as roommates, yet going at one another over Veronica. It’s all good……
I know this will draw a lot of heat. Gunther needs to get his butt kicked. Someone should have had this talk with him long ago. You can not let you alligator mouth overload you humming bird butt. Gunther is reading and willing to hurl insults. A verbal assault often leads to a physical one. If you are going to run your mouth you must be ready to become violent. This is the way the world works. You yell insults and get in someone face and violence is a predictable outcome.
Yes Gunther, pipe down. You’re taking it way to far and are asking for Les to give you a hostile reaction. Gunther is being so self-destructive right now he’s going to have 0 friends real soon.
My read is simple. Gunther is way out of line. Les may have been a creep in HS but many were, in one way or another but was Gunther really any better?
Gunther is interfering with Tiffany’s decisions and “protecting” her from herself because he knows better but, in reality, Gunther doesn’t really know anything. He’s just assuming that he knows better than Tiffany who’s demonstrated that she’s quite capable on her own.
Les is a blowhard. Not much more to say about him. That doesn’t mean that his intentions regarding Tiffany are negative. It’s possible that Les simply doesn’t know how to have positive interactions because they’ve been absent from his life and is forced to figure it out on his own. That’s a hard road.
All of the above said, I can’t believe Im commenting like this on a comic strip.
Even if Les does in fact want to get it on with Tiffany, that’s none of Gunther’s business. I don’t recall that she ever appointed him to be her guardian. That’s a role that Gunther has assumed for himself (more nearly out of hatred for Les than out of fondness for Tiffany).
Uh OH… now it comes out, how these two really feel about each other. Up until now they have made good show of trying to get along..but no more…. whoo boy…. yikes.
Where is Tea Fanny? Consulting with a plastic surgeon? Would be wiser to go to an automobile repair shop. They might be able to salvage TF’s avatar. As for yesterday’s accusation that I used my connections to alter Tea Fanny’s image, that is preposterous. As the Dice Man famously said, “I was out havin’ coffee wit da boys.“wee lee?” =snerk= “Yeah.”
Here’s how it ends! Ex Ann Eiffel employee, Bernice, will call the cops and remind them that there is an outstanding warrant out on Ann and she can be found at Tom Farrel’s house! :o)
I think Les is a big talker where the gals are concerned. He was interested in Pru, but very far off the mark. They became friends. He remained friends with Tiffany despite her weight gain. He was so focused on liberating himself from his mother that he missed an opportunity with Tiffany. Remember when she bared a shoulder, but covered up when Les mentioned friendship. Perhaps, he doesn’t mind talking big about Tiffany, but doesn’t want Gunther saying it.
Oh, Gunther, if you want to say what you want, then you better be prepared for any type of blow back. You stepped over the bounds with Tiffany and now are doing it again with Les.
I remember a time when a fistfight would settle boundaries and could end with friendship or respect.
Namrepus about 6 years ago
I went to a party last Saturday night. I didn’t get l—d, I got in a fight. It ain’t no big thing.
Templo S.U.D. about 6 years ago
Afore you know it, Gunther’s mother and Leslie’s uncle will come into the house in order to see how they’re doing.
capricorn9th about 6 years ago
SO why is Les angry and shutting Gunther down just when he was gonna say “pounce her?”
Prescott_Philosopher about 6 years ago
Repeating myself, Karen is expressing her view of men using little boys.
ironman01 about 6 years ago
Hmmm, seems like Gunther found a button. Touchy, touchy.
31768 about 6 years ago
And he’s about to find knuckle sandwich headed his way. I can’t blame Less. I knew they would cancel each other out too.
sallymargaret about 6 years ago
When I was a kid, there was a fast paced card game called “hell”. The adults didn’t want to use that word around the children, so they changed the name of the game to “pounce”. Now things have gone full circle.
sallymargaret about 6 years ago
Is anyone else having to sign in repeatedly? Is anyone else annoyed at having to click “read now” and “show all comments” over and over?
AnyFace about 6 years ago
Please note that Gunther did not so much as flinch. ✨
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace about 6 years ago
You tell ’em, Tiffany.
(I assume that is who told them both to shut up.)
howtheduck about 6 years ago
You know the fight is serious when he grabs Gunther’s tie.
Joe1962 about 6 years ago
Les wants to shut Gunther down because he knows what Gunther is saying is the truth and sometimes the truth hurts.
31768 about 6 years ago
Gunther you are a friend, and will remain so forever. And Tiffany didn’t need a savior.
31768 about 6 years ago
actually Tiff and Less needed to find the truth about each other out by themselves.
BJShipley1 about 6 years ago
Hmmm, now this is causing me some inner conflict. As much as I think Gunther is a controlling, borderline-emotionally-abusive Nice Guy™ who seems to think he owns Tiffany, I also support anything that’ll knock that disgustingly smug smirk off of Les’s face and make him realize that his view of Tiffany as some object to be claimed is hardly better.
There’s literally nobody to root for here. I just want a plane to crash into their little bachelor pad and wipe them both out.live2read about 6 years ago
Good God!
Wilde Bill about 6 years ago
I’m surprised that it took this long for them to come to blows.
drewpamon about 6 years ago
Gunther is about to learn a valuable lesson about provoking people.
sar about 6 years ago
I think Les is so mad because he is really not trying to be that guy anymore and Gunther is just throwing his past in his face. Gunther really be acting holier than tho too when he’s not. Les’s mother is Ann Eiffel it’s a miracle that he is actually showing improvement.
Mordock999 Premium Member about 6 years ago
THERE! See? In Panel Three! THAT’S the “Le$ Knox” I’ve been Telling you about!
Hey Gunther. Be sure to say: “What’s the matter, “Leslie?” Did I just hit a little old nerve??” (POW!!!)
And when you wake, up Press Charges.
Oh I’m so happy these lads are finally getting along! ;)
steven01221971 about 6 years ago
I hate to say this, but Les is right, and women do fall for jerks. And Gunther keeps harping about since third grade. If that rule holds good, I’d have married my childhood sweetheart.
wantcomicsnow about 6 years ago
Les the deluded still thinking he’s God’s Gift. As I said before, a Legend in his Own Mind.
Lyons Group, Inc. about 6 years ago
This has gotten out of control…this strip, that is.
Faith :) about 6 years ago
Mrs. Berger and Mr. Gray have come home and Mr. Gray is the one that who yelled “shut up”. Just a crazy theory, stranger things have happened.
kfccanada about 6 years ago
Cause he knows Gunther is telling the truth…
kenhense about 6 years ago
Looks like Gunther is the self-appointed moral policeman of the Luanniverse. He may get punched out, followed by the indignity of realizing he stood up for a lost cause.
Argythree about 6 years ago
Way to leave us all without any resolution to this mess…
sactiger about 6 years ago
I’ll give Gunther props for not backing down from Les, and cowering in fear.Maybe “Gunth” is finally growing a pair…?
oldcomicsfan about 6 years ago
Gunther does have a point. All night long, Les has been talking about Tiff as if she was a conquest, a piece of meat, practically drooling with sexual innuendos. Even if Gunth wasn’t attracted to Tiff, as a friend, listening to that all night, would worry me and piss me off too.
fuzzbucket Premium Member about 6 years ago
Punch him while he’s posing, Gunther.
sueb1863 about 6 years ago
Congratulations, Les, Gunther can now have you charged with assault.
cubswin2016 about 6 years ago
The truth hurts, doesn’t it?
Aladar30 Premium Member about 6 years ago
This will hurt. But Gunther did well to tell him those things. I like the way he looks at Les fearless.
Tyge about 6 years ago
How close did Gunther hit to home, to escalate to that response? You’re a “sleazy dirtbag”? Or you just want to “pounce” Tiffany? Which one it is will hint at the future of the Dumbnamic Duo. And, most likely , their relationship with Tiffany.
Philly1115 about 6 years ago
Maybe Les just talks tough, and that’s not really what he wanted.
KenCastillo about 6 years ago
Gunther needs to whip a 9mm out and put a bullet through Leslie Knox’s putrid brain. Can’t stand that SOB.
Tyge about 6 years ago
Odds maker time re Monday’s strip:
1) Fisticuffs: 20%
2) Aftermath of fisticuffs: 25%
3) A faceoff and the doorbell rings: 40%
4) Apologies all around: 3%
5) A completely different arc begins: 85%
Note: Percentages do not add to 100% due to rounding. ;o)
Major Matt Mason Premium Member about 6 years ago
It’s always sad when Felix and Oscar squabble.
31768 about 6 years ago
And one may end up taking a “silly walk” back to jail. And the other should be nominated for “twit of the year.”
RussellColeman2 about 6 years ago
It’s about time someone punched the whining little darling.
donwalter about 6 years ago
and why do I think that this might be the keystone moment that brings Gunther out of his milquetoast persona, as he pounds the bully into the ground?
Roxie80 about 6 years ago
This whole story line ticks me off so much. And people coming for Tiff like SHE’S the problem tick me off even more. Listen, Tiff has never shown either of these guys that she’s interested in them romantically. She’s treated them like friends. She set up some time to hang out with friends, she even said as much to Gunth. It’s Gunth and Les’ own assumptions that made it something more and pit one against the other. Why? Because she’s a woman and wanted to have a male friend… who now thinks he’s entitled to her romantically. And despite Tiff not doing a thing more than being a friend, she’s being blamed for the ‘nice guy’ Gunth and the ‘bad boy’ Les going at each other, when really, she’s not to blame for their sense of entitlement.
interestedbystander about 6 years ago
This story line will eventually lead to Gunther being the best/only friend Les has ever had. After the fight he’ll understand Les in the way he’s come to understand Tiffany.
Tyge about 6 years ago
“Now we see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I’m being repressed!” — Monty Python
JayBluE about 6 years ago
“Point, Gunther…. play for the _tie, _ though, goes to Les. Guess that’s one reason to shy away from ever donning neckwear…..
JayBluE about 6 years ago
“Cake And Punch”
“A Fighting Chance”
“Fisticuff Links”
“Mano Y Stereo”
“Reservations And The Last Resort”
“You Can’t Make It So, Without Needling & Threats”
“Gunther’s Got A Thug In His Program”
“Oddball, Corner Pocket”
“A Visit From The Four Brothers On Thumb Street”
or
“Cast Your Gaze Upon The Digital Display”
Tue Elung-Jensen about 6 years ago
Reminded of his dad perhaps?
RobMichalowski about 6 years ago
The truth is that women love bad boys and nice guys always finish last… Be honest now ladies…
Schrodinger's Dog about 6 years ago
NOTE : look closely at the black balloon for the “SHUT UP” and you’ll see one little curly piece at the back bottom , not following the pattern of the other jagged spikes ( which indicate force of what’s being said) … that little curly piece is pointing down at Les.
no, Tiffany or Mr Gray are NOT there. It was meant to indicate Les as saying it.
ctb11365 about 6 years ago
MORE IMPORTANT: Who is shouting ’Shut Up"?
Ina Tizzy about 6 years ago
Well, boys and girls, I guess we’ll have to wait ’til Monday to find out how or if this is resolved. (Unless G and K decide to take us on a different arc…….Oh, look…Puddles is chasing a butterfly!)
Wubbie about 6 years ago
These two are such a cute couple!
luann1212 about 6 years ago
Well it’s not surprising that the way these panels are drawn this scene would occur. I think that Les saying “SHUT UP” means that not only is it hurting to Les to be thought of that way, but he really does not mean to do with Tiffany what Gunther, with his judgmental and jealous self is implying. If Tiffany ever came on to Les sexually he would run the other way so fast because he is not really ready for that kind of relationship. Neither of them really are. One thing is pretty clear: this arc will continue next week.
ForrestOverin about 6 years ago
Maybe on Monday, Gunther will have a black jail.
KrisThulinWise about 6 years ago
In light of current events, I can’t imagine a more insensitive story line for a comic.
swanridge about 6 years ago
This arc needs to be over……………
TurbosDad about 6 years ago
Too much talking. FIGHT! FIGHT! (My money’s on Les)…
Mayor Snorkum about 6 years ago
This is the least believable story arc in this strip that I’ve ever seen. A dweeb, a greaseball and a rich, newly overweight girl. Yeah, sure.
BlitzMcD about 6 years ago
I’ve always said that this strip was a variation on the Archie series, and this installment underscores the point. Instead of Betty and Veronica maintaining their BFF relationship while competing for Archie, here we have Reggie and Archie (well, more like Reggie and Dilton, actually) as roommates, yet going at one another over Veronica. It’s all good……
Rocknaww about 6 years ago
I know this will draw a lot of heat. Gunther needs to get his butt kicked. Someone should have had this talk with him long ago. You can not let you alligator mouth overload you humming bird butt. Gunther is reading and willing to hurl insults. A verbal assault often leads to a physical one. If you are going to run your mouth you must be ready to become violent. This is the way the world works. You yell insults and get in someone face and violence is a predictable outcome.
P8ntedBunting about 6 years ago
Yes Gunther, pipe down. You’re taking it way to far and are asking for Les to give you a hostile reaction. Gunther is being so self-destructive right now he’s going to have 0 friends real soon.
mark47n about 6 years ago
My read is simple. Gunther is way out of line. Les may have been a creep in HS but many were, in one way or another but was Gunther really any better?
Gunther is interfering with Tiffany’s decisions and “protecting” her from herself because he knows better but, in reality, Gunther doesn’t really know anything. He’s just assuming that he knows better than Tiffany who’s demonstrated that she’s quite capable on her own.
Les is a blowhard. Not much more to say about him. That doesn’t mean that his intentions regarding Tiffany are negative. It’s possible that Les simply doesn’t know how to have positive interactions because they’ve been absent from his life and is forced to figure it out on his own. That’s a hard road.
All of the above said, I can’t believe Im commenting like this on a comic strip.
Barnabus Blackoak about 6 years ago
notice Gunth isn’t flinching.
Apokalis about 6 years ago
Fight…fight…fight!!!
chris_weaver about 6 years ago
Hope Gunther knows a good surgeon.
Hope Les knows a good lawyer.
montylc2001 about 6 years ago
Gunth is right……but he really needs to learn when to not go to far.
Ahuehuete about 6 years ago
So Gunth actually admitted he’s her “nice guy” beta orbiter. And he understands that the “bad boy” gets the girl.
Code the Enforcer about 6 years ago
Gunther doesn’t back down (as noted earlier by some). And we really don’t know where the ‘Shut Up’ remark came from, just yet. Les?! Tiff?!
seismic-2 Premium Member about 6 years ago
Even if Les does in fact want to get it on with Tiffany, that’s none of Gunther’s business. I don’t recall that she ever appointed him to be her guardian. That’s a role that Gunther has assumed for himself (more nearly out of hatred for Les than out of fondness for Tiffany).
LeighBurton about 6 years ago
Who is yelling, “Shut up!” I hope it is Ann Eiffel. That would make this plot much more interesting!
bakana about 6 years ago
Les does Not like to hear the Truth.
IOW, he’s got the ability to feel Shame & Guilt when it’s pointed out to him.
Otherwise, he’d be “High Fiving” Gunther instead of getting Mad.
Train 1911 about 6 years ago
I believe when Monday comes Tiffany will be one who yells shut upAnd then the lecture will begin
RSH about 6 years ago
Uh OH… now it comes out, how these two really feel about each other. Up until now they have made good show of trying to get along..but no more…. whoo boy…. yikes.
RSH about 6 years ago
when was the last time a dialog balloon was black? black is extreme anger or maybe hatred.
Sheriff Mordecai Premium Member about 6 years ago
Where is Tea Fanny? Consulting with a plastic surgeon? Would be wiser to go to an automobile repair shop. They might be able to salvage TF’s avatar. As for yesterday’s accusation that I used my connections to alter Tea Fanny’s image, that is preposterous. As the Dice Man famously said, “I was out havin’ coffee wit da boys.“wee lee?” =snerk= “Yeah.”
Sisyphos about 6 years ago
Gunther is about to be pummeled, as Leslie seeks to defend his, not Tiffany’s, reputation from Gunther’s accusations and implications….
Mariposamia about 6 years ago
What ever happened to Luann? This is nuts and not much of a comic!
RonBerg13 Premium Member about 6 years ago
Uh, Les, I don’t think Gunther is the type of guy whose tie you can just grab anymore.
Tyge about 6 years ago
Here’s how it ends! Ex Ann Eiffel employee, Bernice, will call the cops and remind them that there is an outstanding warrant out on Ann and she can be found at Tom Farrel’s house! :o)
Airman about 6 years ago
Make comics fun again. These folks are downers.
Ruth Brown about 6 years ago
I think Les is a big talker where the gals are concerned. He was interested in Pru, but very far off the mark. They became friends. He remained friends with Tiffany despite her weight gain. He was so focused on liberating himself from his mother that he missed an opportunity with Tiffany. Remember when she bared a shoulder, but covered up when Les mentioned friendship. Perhaps, he doesn’t mind talking big about Tiffany, but doesn’t want Gunther saying it.
Oh, Gunther, if you want to say what you want, then you better be prepared for any type of blow back. You stepped over the bounds with Tiffany and now are doing it again with Les.
I remember a time when a fistfight would settle boundaries and could end with friendship or respect.