Corporate Scientists: Lying on behalf of shareholders for those sweet, sweet quarterly gains for over 50 years now. Who care how many they kill or hurt
The way this sort of research works is they get a grant to study the effects of, say, sailboats on the climate. The scientists show that sailboats don’t affect the climate.
From that, they conclude that there is no effect on the climate from human activity.
All the major oil companies do climate change research then, just like tobacco companies, they bury it. Of course we are affecting the climate; why do you think it’s 80F in Virginia all week going into November?
no true scientist would ever say or agree that science is settled, if you hear that from a supposed scientist you know they are just supporting an agenda with no real interest in science!
There is no doubt the climate changes. Greenland at one time was able to support agriculture. Almost all of the change in the climate can be traced to things like the sun. For you deniers, that is that big yellow ball you see during the day in the sky. It goes through cycles. BTW, where I live in beautiful SD, the climate was rather tropical. And there used to be a sea here, too. Just 20,000 years ago, we had glaciers where we live. Today, we have agriculture—an industry that had the climate not changed could not exist. Some humans like to believe they have the power to control the climate. What arrogance!
“Houses are falling into the ocean on North Carolina’s Outer Banks at an increasing rate due to rising sea levels. This is a slow-moving disaster that has implications for coastal communities across the country.” Search – number of houses washed out to sea, east coast, USA.
Funny how so many of the concerned wealthy liberals fly around in private jets, ride in gas eguzzling vehicles and have the carbon footprints of a small city love to lecture the lower classes about climate change. They want us to change so they don’t have to sacrifice. I wonder how many cars Wiley owns and how his carbon footprint compares to us lower class citizens!
Every year around this time I will burn leaves on my property, and I certainly hope that burning leaves contributes to your global warming and climate change hoax.
Nature—our world— survives by being balanced. Every living thing consumes part of nature and creates waste, which is consumed in turn by another part of nature—eaten by animals, insects, bacteria, etc. and broken down into usable nutrients and organic matter. Except man. Mankind is part of nature — we also consume and create waste. But we also create lots of other stuff which nature can’t easily break down or use. We are the ‘smart’ species and yet we have never figured out that we need to be clever enough to turn our “waste” back into something Nature can use instead of just dumping it into rivers and oceans or burying it in the ground. We haven’t yet figured out that the real cost of a car or a refrigerator should include the costs involved in getting it back to its natural components or at least turning it into other usable stuff.
Eventually they’ll get the models right and make a correct prediction, and people will take notice. And it won’t be because some politician or activist says so. The same can also be said for predicting earthquakes. If they get it right it’ll be a game changer
Since today’s strip opens the discussion, here’s some facts to ponder: If you study the Earth’s history, climate change is inevitable; and the change that history suggests will literally wipe Canada off the map, right down to the bedrock. We had about 300 million years without continental glaciation, until the ice ages began about 2 million years ago. Those 2 million years have seen several wild temperature swings with glaciers advancing and retreating; and we are currently in a hot cycle. There have been many theories of the cause of these climate changes, but not one of them predicts that they will end. Thus our ability to control climate by increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere back to the pre-glacial levels will actually prove to save us, not doom us.
I just read an article in Scientific American. The Supreme Court justices cannot tell the difference between Nitrogen Dioxide which is an air pollutant and Nitrous Oxide (laughing gas) and yet they make rulings on environmental regulations.
Ignorance and apathy: They don’t know and they don’t care – MAGA.
Yep, smoking tobacco is you for you, MMR vaccine causes autism, the fossil fuel industry, the one that has funded climate change deniers, knew the science about climate change existed. And they knew it a long time ago and the sugar industry funded research that downplayed the risks of sugar and highlighted the hazards of fat, to name just a few.
If you put a frog in hot water he will jump out. If you put a frog in cold water and heat it up he will stay in the pot and cook. I don’t want to be the cooked frog. It may be too late.
Fossil Fuel Industry scientists did real research in the 70’s and 80’s that confirmed anthropocentric climate change. Corporate heads then spent the last 35 years funding propaganda denying climate change to salvage their short-term bottom line.
In 2016, I met a Trump supporter at a B and B. We tried to have a civil discussion about the issues. He asked me what I disliked about Trump’s positions. When I mentioned climate change, he said he didn’t believe in it. That pretty much ended the discussion.
Oh, for goodness sake. I can’t believe that, this deep into the 21st Century, we still have people who apparently don’t understand the difference between weather and climate. Here’s the deal:
• Weather is short-term; climate is long-term.
• Weather is individual measurements; climate is average measurements.
• Weather is what you get; climate is what you expect.
• Weather is umbrellas; climate is ice ages.
• Weather is the city council; climate is the United Nations.
• Weather is 3 minutes on TV; climate is doctoral dissertations.
• Weather comes and goes; climate just keeps on coming.
• Weather change kills off individual plants and animals; climate change kills off entire species.
• Weather is Angry Birds; climate is The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Any American adult who doesn’t understand this by now must be:
1) a social promotion from a special-ed class.
2) working for a fossil-fuel company and whose salary depends on the public not wising up during her or his lifetime.
3) deliberately disingenuous.
4) a religious fanatic who buys into the 2000-year-old lie that their favorite dead guy is due back tomoro, having disappointed a hundred previous generations of True Believers because he’s been waiting especially for YOU to be around when it happens, because that’s how important YOU are!
Anthropologist Jared Diamond’s 2005 book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed detailed how half a dozen historical cultures met their ends. And clearly they must have seen it coming, yet did nothing (or too little) to prevent it. But those were isolated groups — on islands, in valleys, in remote states — and humanity on the rest of the planet survived. The same cannot be said about global climate change.
Wikipedia also mentions the common factor in most of those societal implosions: “The root problem in all but one of Diamond’s factors leading to collapse is overpopulation relative to the practicable (as opposed to the ideal theoretical) carrying capacity of the environment. One environmental problem not related to overpopulation is the harmful effect of accidental or intentional introduction of non-native species to a region.”
must be for those ‘scientists’ when other climate scientists and IPCC say there’s “no statistics significance of human impact on climate” and cherry-picking or manipulating of data isn’t allowed.
Scorpio Premium Member about 2 months ago
Corporate Scientists: Lying on behalf of shareholders for those sweet, sweet quarterly gains for over 50 years now. Who care how many they kill or hurt
Ratkin Premium Member about 2 months ago
It’s just weather. / sarcasm
sirbadger about 2 months ago
Close minded is not a well defined term. Each side can accuse the other side of being close minded.
rmremail about 2 months ago
They are paid not to think
einarbt about 2 months ago
Queue the deniers.
rmremail about 2 months ago
The way this sort of research works is they get a grant to study the effects of, say, sailboats on the climate. The scientists show that sailboats don’t affect the climate.
From that, they conclude that there is no effect on the climate from human activity.
braindead Premium Member about 2 months ago
Remember, it’s the same P. R. firms that claimed there was NO link between smoking and lung cancer.
In some cases, including the same exact people.
Yakety Sax about 2 months ago
Science says what ever the money tells it to say.
Jml58 about 2 months ago
Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get.
keenanthelibrarian about 2 months ago
That little taped -on sign gives the best advice, ever …
ObiJoan about 2 months ago
Open your mind – but be careful, don’t let your brain fall out.
brit-ed about 2 months ago
All the major oil companies do climate change research then, just like tobacco companies, they bury it. Of course we are affecting the climate; why do you think it’s 80F in Virginia all week going into November?
Superhawk about 2 months ago
Climate change is the result of all the hot air and methane (manure) coming from D.C..
garysmigs about 2 months ago
no true scientist would ever say or agree that science is settled, if you hear that from a supposed scientist you know they are just supporting an agenda with no real interest in science!
duggersd Premium Member about 2 months ago
There is no doubt the climate changes. Greenland at one time was able to support agriculture. Almost all of the change in the climate can be traced to things like the sun. For you deniers, that is that big yellow ball you see during the day in the sky. It goes through cycles. BTW, where I live in beautiful SD, the climate was rather tropical. And there used to be a sea here, too. Just 20,000 years ago, we had glaciers where we live. Today, we have agriculture—an industry that had the climate not changed could not exist. Some humans like to believe they have the power to control the climate. What arrogance!
mrwiskers about 2 months ago
“Houses are falling into the ocean on North Carolina’s Outer Banks at an increasing rate due to rising sea levels. This is a slow-moving disaster that has implications for coastal communities across the country.” Search – number of houses washed out to sea, east coast, USA.
Funniguy about 2 months ago
Just buy some carbon credits from second & third world countries.
B4ItNs about 2 months ago
Funny how so many of the concerned wealthy liberals fly around in private jets, ride in gas eguzzling vehicles and have the carbon footprints of a small city love to lecture the lower classes about climate change. They want us to change so they don’t have to sacrifice. I wonder how many cars Wiley owns and how his carbon footprint compares to us lower class citizens!
Count Olaf Premium Member about 2 months ago
Greta Turdburgler’s office.
Free or Not? Premium Member about 2 months ago
The Closed Mind is that of the “Man-Made climate change” hoaxers.For truth on climate change, which is NATURAL, go to The NIPCC.
Sun about 2 months ago
Every year around this time I will burn leaves on my property, and I certainly hope that burning leaves contributes to your global warming and climate change hoax.
elbow macaroni about 2 months ago
Brilliant
DaBump Premium Member about 2 months ago
It’s not just the corporate science that requires closed minds.
GreenT267 about 2 months ago
Nature—our world— survives by being balanced. Every living thing consumes part of nature and creates waste, which is consumed in turn by another part of nature—eaten by animals, insects, bacteria, etc. and broken down into usable nutrients and organic matter. Except man. Mankind is part of nature — we also consume and create waste. But we also create lots of other stuff which nature can’t easily break down or use. We are the ‘smart’ species and yet we have never figured out that we need to be clever enough to turn our “waste” back into something Nature can use instead of just dumping it into rivers and oceans or burying it in the ground. We haven’t yet figured out that the real cost of a car or a refrigerator should include the costs involved in getting it back to its natural components or at least turning it into other usable stuff.
mindjob about 2 months ago
Eventually they’ll get the models right and make a correct prediction, and people will take notice. And it won’t be because some politician or activist says so. The same can also be said for predicting earthquakes. If they get it right it’ll be a game changer
Geophyzz about 2 months ago
Since today’s strip opens the discussion, here’s some facts to ponder: If you study the Earth’s history, climate change is inevitable; and the change that history suggests will literally wipe Canada off the map, right down to the bedrock. We had about 300 million years without continental glaciation, until the ice ages began about 2 million years ago. Those 2 million years have seen several wild temperature swings with glaciers advancing and retreating; and we are currently in a hot cycle. There have been many theories of the cause of these climate changes, but not one of them predicts that they will end. Thus our ability to control climate by increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere back to the pre-glacial levels will actually prove to save us, not doom us.
dflak about 2 months ago
I just read an article in Scientific American. The Supreme Court justices cannot tell the difference between Nitrogen Dioxide which is an air pollutant and Nitrous Oxide (laughing gas) and yet they make rulings on environmental regulations.
Ignorance and apathy: They don’t know and they don’t care – MAGA.
IKnowIt! Premium Member about 2 months ago
How ironic!
sandpiper about 2 months ago
If Lemon Head wins, we probably won’t find a lot to laugh at for a very long time.
Daltongang Premium Member about 2 months ago
Yep, smoking tobacco is you for you, MMR vaccine causes autism, the fossil fuel industry, the one that has funded climate change deniers, knew the science about climate change existed. And they knew it a long time ago and the sugar industry funded research that downplayed the risks of sugar and highlighted the hazards of fat, to name just a few.
rick92040 about 2 months ago
If you put a frog in hot water he will jump out. If you put a frog in cold water and heat it up he will stay in the pot and cook. I don’t want to be the cooked frog. It may be too late.
Will E. Makeit Premium Member about 2 months ago
So then what about the other scientists that dispute and question the government grant funded corporate science hypothesis as should they?
baskate_2000 about 2 months ago
Typical bureaucracy!
Holden Awn about 2 months ago
Much better than a Fauci lab, where the sign evidently said ’Don’t Bother Closing Anything Behind You — We Need A Real World Test’.
ronlouisscholl about 2 months ago
Fossil Fuel Industry scientists did real research in the 70’s and 80’s that confirmed anthropocentric climate change. Corporate heads then spent the last 35 years funding propaganda denying climate change to salvage their short-term bottom line.
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] about 2 months ago
And don’t forget all those harmless Radium Dial Wristwatches
lnrokr55 about 2 months ago
Good Night! and May your God go with You! - Dave Allen At Large circa 1970’s ;)
joannesshadow about 2 months ago
In 2016, I met a Trump supporter at a B and B. We tried to have a civil discussion about the issues. He asked me what I disliked about Trump’s positions. When I mentioned climate change, he said he didn’t believe in it. That pretty much ended the discussion.
Bilan about 2 months ago
The corporate scientists know they’re not convincing anybody. They’re just obfuscating the argument so that no real decision is made.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 2 months ago
Oh, for goodness sake. I can’t believe that, this deep into the 21st Century, we still have people who apparently don’t understand the difference between weather and climate. Here’s the deal:
• Weather is short-term; climate is long-term.
• Weather is individual measurements; climate is average measurements.
• Weather is what you get; climate is what you expect.
• Weather is umbrellas; climate is ice ages.
• Weather is the city council; climate is the United Nations.
• Weather is 3 minutes on TV; climate is doctoral dissertations.
• Weather comes and goes; climate just keeps on coming.
• Weather change kills off individual plants and animals; climate change kills off entire species.
• Weather is Angry Birds; climate is The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Any American adult who doesn’t understand this by now must be:
1) a social promotion from a special-ed class.
2) working for a fossil-fuel company and whose salary depends on the public not wising up during her or his lifetime.
3) deliberately disingenuous.
4) a religious fanatic who buys into the 2000-year-old lie that their favorite dead guy is due back tomoro, having disappointed a hundred previous generations of True Believers because he’s been waiting especially for YOU to be around when it happens, because that’s how important YOU are!
These categories are not mutually exclusive.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 2 months ago
Anthropologist Jared Diamond’s 2005 book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed detailed how half a dozen historical cultures met their ends. And clearly they must have seen it coming, yet did nothing (or too little) to prevent it. But those were isolated groups — on islands, in valleys, in remote states — and humanity on the rest of the planet survived. The same cannot be said about global climate change.
Wikipedia also mentions the common factor in most of those societal implosions: “The root problem in all but one of Diamond’s factors leading to collapse is overpopulation relative to the practicable (as opposed to the ideal theoretical) carrying capacity of the environment. One environmental problem not related to overpopulation is the harmful effect of accidental or intentional introduction of non-native species to a region.”
comicsrrd about 2 months ago
must be for those ‘scientists’ when other climate scientists and IPCC say there’s “no statistics significance of human impact on climate” and cherry-picking or manipulating of data isn’t allowed.