Try reading it a little more, There are lots of important women who did a lot of things that men could not, or would not do. Also most of the mistakes that are listed as life lessons to learn are made by men.
In 591 A.D., Pope Gregory (“the Great”?) called Mary Magdalene a prostitute. Before that, she was the only follower of Jesus who stayed faithful when all the men denied Him, and went into hiding. She was the first to see the risen Christ.
Do you believe in witches? God does. Guess what? He’s not a fan.
Exodus 22:17. “Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live.”
So, how many women were slaughtered throughout history because some stupid men wrote a stupid line in a stupid book a couple of thousand years ago? BTW, no mention of killing sorcerers. Just the women.
I’m quite serious in this observation, but with Lot’s wife if is said she was turned to salt as a punishment for disobeying the order to look back, usually- dumb woman didn’t listen and was PUNISHED. but what if it is a case of a ‘safety’ issue. salt is usually seen as ‘pure’ so in turning to salt she wasn’t punished but purified. meaning she wasn’t punished but it was a safety thing. i know it’s subtle but still…
Perhaps there is some value in understanding the Bible is a collection of stories (that is the meaning of “bible” after all) on the topic of one sect of the Abrahamic religions. They were written, mostly by men, and then compiled, mostly by other men, into the Holy Bible to serve man’s interest’s and needs. The fact that so many claim them as the word of God is fanciful. After all, if the Holy Bible is the word of God, and God is perfect, all seeing, all knowing, all powerful, why was there any need to compile a New Testament? Wouldn’t God have done it right the first time, and in languages all could understand for themselves, without the need for church “interpreters” to tell us what He meant? Was King George God? If not, why should we believe his version, or any other for that matter, is the real word of God?
“The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.”
Danae’s focus is too narrow. There are a lot of cruel ‘imbalances’ in this world, as well as some that are just plain ignorance based. The Bible is only one of the earlier records that were written and rewritten in the attempt to establish certain biases. It’s best attempt at improving society was the Ten Commandments, and we all know how that is working out.
look at the context of the times the writers lived in. Strength and lack of birth control had a lot to do with social roles. Also, much of what applies to the men also applies to the women. The ideals apply to People, not just a specific sex.
Although Jesus had a couple of influential friends (Somebody had to buy his body from the Roman execution squad, so it would not be left to rot on the cross as was their custom), most of his following were people that “polite society” wouldn’t deal with: farmers, fishermen, tax collectors, lepers …
Women were included in this lot. Women first century Judea didn’t have a lot of station. In fact, they were pretty much chattel and “belonged” to their men.
Jesus had little appeal to the 1% of his day nor to the conservatives of his day. Ironic how that has changed.
Maybe she can put together a Woman’s bible emphasizing what she thinks is important. Kind of like the Slave Bible that the owner class created for their human machinery. Missing was all that stuff about freedom and fighting.
nobody mentioned Lilith … Adam’s first wife who told Adam and God to tick off and left Eden …. the Jews used to frighten misbehaving children with tales of her…. God had to make Eve from Adam’s rib the get a compliant wife
I’ve long been astonished that Christians can claim with a straight face that, yes, the Yahweh of the Old Testament was a petty, vengeful, murderous jerk, but that everything was set right by Jesus (according to the fanfic of his most devoted followers, known as the New Testament). But that’s got it exactly backwards.
Sure, if you did something that pïssed off the easily irritated Yahweh, he’d smite you where you stood, plus your family and half the innocent bystanders in the surrounding county as collateral damage. But that was it. Dead. Done. Finito. Period. Game Over. Sayonara. Hasta la vista. It wasn’t until Jesus came along that they invented the concept of “No no no, my friend, we’re gonna fry your sorry äss forever! And not just for the actions you actually performed but for some of those naughty little thots you’ve been having!”
Think about it. Which of these 2 arrogant, flaming sadists was actually worse?
“Den dat little man in black dar, he say women can’t have as much rights as men, ‘cause Christ wan’t a woman! Whar did your Christ come from? Whar did your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothin’ to do wid Him.” —Sojourner Truth
The Bible is the Word of God. With all kinds of people complaining about it I don’t think anybody has presented a solution for a better Bible. Almost everything in the Bible happened in the past so I don’t think changing it is going to solve anything.
It is a lie that men do most of the brave things in the Bible ONLY because it was written by men. In a time period where there was no electricity for washing machines, fridges, stoves, dishwashers, and the like – nor disposable diapers and baby formula – someone had to look after the kiddies, the cooking and the cleaning. Since there were also no tractors, chainsaws, or other heavy machinery – those with brawn did the heavy lifting while the women stayed at home and watched after the kiddies. If men got to do most of the fighting, war-mongering, and decision -making – they also did most of the dying. Yeah, the women probably got raped, but lived to complain about it – whiled the men were also raped and castratedbefore being killed – In those days it was perhaps safer to be a woman. But why quibble about facts and biology when one’s PC tantrums about men can be so much more satisfying?
This makes me wonder if you’ve ever read the Bible. Adam is responsible for bringing sin into the world, not Eve. Other than that there are both bad men and women, heroic men and women all throughout Scripture.
eastern.woods.metal over 2 years ago
Does that imply that she’s claiming to be stupid. Premonition I think
David_the_CAD over 2 years ago
Try reading it a little more, There are lots of important women who did a lot of things that men could not, or would not do. Also most of the mistakes that are listed as life lessons to learn are made by men.
jmarkoff2 over 2 years ago
Danae, for a rarity, is actually right on this one.
sirbadger over 2 years ago
Mary Magdalene’s occupation is not in the bible. That was added later. Maybe Danae can add stuff.
Asharah over 2 years ago
Well, there was Ruth, Esther, Judith, Miriam, Elizabeth, Mary
saobadao over 2 years ago
Danae has been right many times. Sometimes people, sometimes men, don’t get it.
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 2 years ago
The Bible IS The Bible for Dummies.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 2 years ago
It wouldn’t be such a big deal if people didn’t put so much stock in that book of fantasies.
KenTheCoffinDweller over 2 years ago
Just not sure how changing the Stupid is going to fix or improve anything.
Fritzsch over 2 years ago
In 591 A.D., Pope Gregory (“the Great”?) called Mary Magdalene a prostitute. Before that, she was the only follower of Jesus who stayed faithful when all the men denied Him, and went into hiding. She was the first to see the risen Christ.
JosephShriver over 2 years ago
The Bible also talks about the influence women have on men
Alabama Al over 2 years ago
If the cases of where women have wielded power is any indication, don’t expect too much to be different.
PraiseofFolly over 2 years ago
“Who do you think you are — the Queen of Sheba?” When I was a kid, I heard that saying a LOT!
SNVBD over 2 years ago
All religions are a form of suppression.
cdward over 2 years ago
Like all other non-biblical stories of the time, they were mostly written by men. Watcha gonna do — it (like most others) was a patriarchal society.
Enter.Name.Here over 2 years ago
The founding of the Church of Diana.
WaitingMan over 2 years ago
Do you believe in witches? God does. Guess what? He’s not a fan.
Exodus 22:17. “Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live.”
So, how many women were slaughtered throughout history because some stupid men wrote a stupid line in a stupid book a couple of thousand years ago? BTW, no mention of killing sorcerers. Just the women.
Bwingblue1 over 2 years ago
Quick! Lock up the time machine!
Wizard of Ahz-no relation over 2 years ago
I’m quite serious in this observation, but with Lot’s wife if is said she was turned to salt as a punishment for disobeying the order to look back, usually- dumb woman didn’t listen and was PUNISHED. but what if it is a case of a ‘safety’ issue. salt is usually seen as ‘pure’ so in turning to salt she wasn’t punished but purified. meaning she wasn’t punished but it was a safety thing. i know it’s subtle but still…
bbenoit over 2 years ago
Perhaps there is some value in understanding the Bible is a collection of stories (that is the meaning of “bible” after all) on the topic of one sect of the Abrahamic religions. They were written, mostly by men, and then compiled, mostly by other men, into the Holy Bible to serve man’s interest’s and needs. The fact that so many claim them as the word of God is fanciful. After all, if the Holy Bible is the word of God, and God is perfect, all seeing, all knowing, all powerful, why was there any need to compile a New Testament? Wouldn’t God have done it right the first time, and in languages all could understand for themselves, without the need for church “interpreters” to tell us what He meant? Was King George God? If not, why should we believe his version, or any other for that matter, is the real word of God?
Anon4242 over 2 years ago
Missing first page of the bible
“The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.”
[Traveler] Premium Member over 2 years ago
I’m really not surprised by the typical comments from this “enlightened” bunch
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Go ahead Dana, add to the mess. Everyone else is.
sandpiper over 2 years ago
Danae’s focus is too narrow. There are a lot of cruel ‘imbalances’ in this world, as well as some that are just plain ignorance based. The Bible is only one of the earlier records that were written and rewritten in the attempt to establish certain biases. It’s best attempt at improving society was the Ten Commandments, and we all know how that is working out.
royq27 over 2 years ago
What stories is he talking about?
thelordthygod666 over 2 years ago
Shut up, man talking here. 1 Timothy 2:12
Masterskrain over 2 years ago
Hoo-Boy…. THIS is gonna be interesting…
Will E. Makeit Premium Member over 2 years ago
Hmmm…perhaps Dunnay is prepping for an invite to The Squad?
ira.crank over 2 years ago
Try reading The Hunger Games or Harry Potter.
car2ner over 2 years ago
look at the context of the times the writers lived in. Strength and lack of birth control had a lot to do with social roles. Also, much of what applies to the men also applies to the women. The ideals apply to People, not just a specific sex.
dflak over 2 years ago
Although Jesus had a couple of influential friends (Somebody had to buy his body from the Roman execution squad, so it would not be left to rot on the cross as was their custom), most of his following were people that “polite society” wouldn’t deal with: farmers, fishermen, tax collectors, lepers …
Women were included in this lot. Women first century Judea didn’t have a lot of station. In fact, they were pretty much chattel and “belonged” to their men.
Jesus had little appeal to the 1% of his day nor to the conservatives of his day. Ironic how that has changed.
Out of the Past over 2 years ago
Spoiler alert: you’re not getting rid of men or the Bible.
SofaKing Premium Member over 2 years ago
Also complete fiction.
davidlwashburn over 2 years ago
Don’t forget Jael. She really nailed her job.
Plumb.Bob Premium Member over 2 years ago
Maybe she can put together a Woman’s bible emphasizing what she thinks is important. Kind of like the Slave Bible that the owner class created for their human machinery. Missing was all that stuff about freedom and fighting.
schaefer jim over 2 years ago
They are just stories to entertain the masses back before the tv con can come on come.
mistercatworks over 2 years ago
Yeah, but who dictated those stories? Hmm?
sobrown51 over 2 years ago
I heard that Lot’s wife became a pillar of the community.
Realimaginary1 Premium Member over 2 years ago
A-A-And, Here We Go… to Pearls Before Swine
Ka`ōnōhi`ula`okahōkūmiomio`ehiku Premium Member over 2 years ago
Genius.
T Smith over 2 years ago
“Time for a stupid change!”
Substituting some new stupid for the existing stupid isn’t going to fix anything.
What we need is for those embracing the old stupid to exchange it for some shiny, new intelligence.
phredturner over 2 years ago
Well,, change is unlikely now that the Christian Taliban has hijacked the Supreme Court
phoenixnyc over 2 years ago
I’ve always wondered why Satan is called the “Prince of Lies” when it’s God who starts out by lying to Adam.
Mediatech over 2 years ago
A change is as good as a rest.
6turtle9 over 2 years ago
A-a-and here we go, re: the comments.
johnec over 2 years ago
RELEASE THE (DANAE) KRAKEN!
dialfred over 2 years ago
Yes, and the Bible says the women telling the good news are a large army
comicalUser over 2 years ago
’Tis a reflection of the times. Men and women each had their places cemented. And hard it was to break free, if it dried too much.
gravygraves over 2 years ago
nobody mentioned Lilith … Adam’s first wife who told Adam and God to tick off and left Eden …. the Jews used to frighten misbehaving children with tales of her…. God had to make Eve from Adam’s rib the get a compliant wife
keenanthelibrarian over 2 years ago
There’s quite a big difference between the OT and NT stories; for instance I don’t think Jesus was strung up by a gang of women …
Richard S Russell Premium Member over 2 years ago
I’ve long been astonished that Christians can claim with a straight face that, yes, the Yahweh of the Old Testament was a petty, vengeful, murderous jerk, but that everything was set right by Jesus (according to the fanfic of his most devoted followers, known as the New Testament). But that’s got it exactly backwards.
Sure, if you did something that pïssed off the easily irritated Yahweh, he’d smite you where you stood, plus your family and half the innocent bystanders in the surrounding county as collateral damage. But that was it. Dead. Done. Finito. Period. Game Over. Sayonara. Hasta la vista. It wasn’t until Jesus came along that they invented the concept of “No no no, my friend, we’re gonna fry your sorry äss forever! And not just for the actions you actually performed but for some of those naughty little thots you’ve been having!”
Think about it. Which of these 2 arrogant, flaming sadists was actually worse?
Asharah over 2 years ago
“Den dat little man in black dar, he say women can’t have as much rights as men, ‘cause Christ wan’t a woman! Whar did your Christ come from? Whar did your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothin’ to do wid Him.” —Sojourner Truth
I'm Sad over 2 years ago
The Bible is the Word of God. With all kinds of people complaining about it I don’t think anybody has presented a solution for a better Bible. Almost everything in the Bible happened in the past so I don’t think changing it is going to solve anything.
einarbt over 2 years ago
I thought she had her own religion.
lindz.coop Premium Member over 2 years ago
Yup
xyzwriter48 over 2 years ago
….Deborah, Priscilla, Dorcas, Anna, Lois, etc.
Pogostiks Premium Member over 2 years ago
It is a lie that men do most of the brave things in the Bible ONLY because it was written by men. In a time period where there was no electricity for washing machines, fridges, stoves, dishwashers, and the like – nor disposable diapers and baby formula – someone had to look after the kiddies, the cooking and the cleaning. Since there were also no tractors, chainsaws, or other heavy machinery – those with brawn did the heavy lifting while the women stayed at home and watched after the kiddies. If men got to do most of the fighting, war-mongering, and decision -making – they also did most of the dying. Yeah, the women probably got raped, but lived to complain about it – whiled the men were also raped and castratedbefore being killed – In those days it was perhaps safer to be a woman. But why quibble about facts and biology when one’s PC tantrums about men can be so much more satisfying?
Timothy Foutz over 2 years ago
This makes me wonder if you’ve ever read the Bible. Adam is responsible for bringing sin into the world, not Eve. Other than that there are both bad men and women, heroic men and women all throughout Scripture.