Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for February 10, 2015

What did Tiffany thought “university” meant: “job center”?

Reminds me of that Beauty Pageant contestant’s gaffe a while back… or even that celebrity quote about making another celebrity “…look like a ’rock scientist”. – Tiffany says she loves a good mystery novel…. She says she’s still waiting to see where “Waldo” is. She said it’s the most riveting mystery, after that last “Carmen SanDiego” thriller she read, last year…..

Either Tiffany’s stupid, or she cares so little about what he says that it’s entirely irrelevant where Rosa is.

The banter! I love it! LOL!

“Vapid Fire”“Irrational Geographic”“MapJest”“Where? And Tear”“The Rhodes Less Traveled”“Something To Do Between Weekends”“I Q? I Quit!”“Between A Rock Star And… That Harvard Place…”or“We’ll Always Have… Whatever….”

That’s right, Tiffany, don’t let your brain get in the way of being a top dollar boy toy.

in the other site someone actually asked why Tif was in the university and lue was in college……….both should had been in college, but Tiff got in the university thanks to daddy’s money

Look. No rage. He’s perfectly cool.

Wow! If opposites attract – I see major sparks coming. Gunth is looking vulnerable – Time for Tiff to get Trashy.

Oh, Tiff — you are sooooo fupid! But it’s not your fault — you’re drawn that way…

And as they say in Paris…Buenos noches!

It probably helps when he realizes that between them he has “Home Field Advantage”, schoolwise…

I wouldn’t say “under control”, so much as “a bit more level of a playing field”. Tiffany’s no MENSA member, but she’s smart in ways that Gunther isn’t. One has what the other lacks. – When it comes to school itself, though, back then in HS, it was her turf, more or less. Now, though it’s not altogether his turf, he is a bit more “at home” than she would be…..

“In the last panel, Gunth has a confident look about him.”Agreed.

So, Gunther is blowing off his Bio Lab to talk to Tiffany?

OMG! the arrogant idiot speaks again! She must be deaf by now, because she NEVER uses her ears…only her mouth to show her ignorance and contempt!I just do NOT like her…period!! Gunther seems cool with it. I hope he can maintain this position without falling for her garbage!

It’s a school with much more appealing guys than Gunther! Wake up, Tiffany!

I like that Gunther isn’t biting her head off like he did with his mom. Snarky doesn’t mean grown up after all. But he does seem kind of together and with it today. Tiff may be dumb as a stick sometimes, but she’s a wonderful person. I’d vote for Gunther over Ox for Tiff for sure!

I think Tiffany is not stupid; she just does not care, which is something very different. She is toying with Gunther as a potential “catch,” but he is not playing along. This probably won’t go very far….

As pretty as she appears, think I would end up screaming being with someone so stupid.

Oh My Stars and COFFEE Pots.Gunther Is Slowly turning Into Pretty-Boy!

Apparently this university has very low admission standards.

I bet Tiffany’s GPA is way down south, too.

“Cute girls are never interested in the nice guys! It’s not fair!”…………“Tiffany is interested in Gunther! What a terrible person she is!”

How can anybody not love Tiffany?I just don’t understand.

In her defense how many tv shows about college kids actually show them in class? She probably thought that college was jus a four year party.

I wonder about Tiffany’s parents; how did Tiff have the grades to get into a University or are mommy and daddy just buying her a degree?

OK Gunth. You’re on the right track! Keep that "BS Meter: running!

Thank you Tiffany for the much needed laugh this morning. You know Gunther had so much fun in Gay Peru.

You say matured, but I didn’t realize yelling at your mother made you mature.

Still can’t show any growth for any of the characters. Amazing that Tiffany can be the one who pushes Bernice to solve the Piro situation but is still thrown out as the ditz when Evans wants to prop up another character.

Tiffany shouldn’t even been in college. She’s too much an idiot.

Dave… a few things…. First, thank you for posting the image of your mentor. It was nice to see the fellow who came up with that wonderful quote that I like a great deal! Second, you were right about the “Don’t…” statement by Gunther. It did not lead to an angry outburst. I am glad I was wrong, but I also have to say that the end of the last panel from yesterday seems a bit incongruent with today’s work. To me, it seems like Greg could have simply left out the “Don’t…” and yesterday and today would have meshed a bit better. For some reason, the “Don’t…” comment feels like it was meant to be important, but I cannot figure out a reason for it. And, now it seems as if it has become UNimportant.

Even though Tiffany is unimpressed with “University” being more school and classes… she IS sticking with it, and with no indication to the contrary thus far, it appears she is succeeding (at least moderately…. she would have had to have earned AT LEAST "gentlemanly "C’s (or a “C” average))" in her classes to not have gone on probation). So, while Tiffany has other aspirations, it seems she is doing what is necessary to accomplish her work at the University. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Overall, I think Tiffany has grown considerably and has become a kinder, more positive character.

I’m pleased to see more posters who are tired of Tiffany bashing. It really isn’t that impressive, since Evans has often made her such an easy target. And people react so strangely here sometimes when she shows up! They become bullies.

Love the sarcastic expression on Gunther in the last panel.

Thank you!

The big question here is does Tiffany’s skirt reach the bottom of her crotch.

Interesting that whenever someone snarks in this strip Evans has to change their eyes to this half lidded kind of thing.

What was that quote Brooke Shields made about Cigarettes?

Why are we supposed to believe that there’s a “new Gunther” now? All the while that Gunther was in Lima and then finally in the village, it was “classic Gunther”. On what was supposed to be his last day in the country, when Luis was driving him to the airport, it was “classic Gunther”. Then after he spent one week on the tour bus we are supposed to think he is somehow a new man? If this were true, what on earth happened during that week to make it so?

Sarcasm! Goodness, Deary Me! What is becoming of our Gunthie?

Her interest may be real, but augmented by some other reasons such as help with school work … let’s see how the week pans out. Wanna bet she gives Gunther a good-bye peck on the cheek ?

But nothing further than that…. ;-PPP

Since Luann is supposed to be an “average teenager”, Greg Evans wants the “other” blonde in the strip to be really dumb, to make his heroine look good by comparison. He now wants Luann’s once-and-future suitor Gunther to start acting more manly, too, so that people will not think Luann had to settle for a loser when they finally do hook up.

Since Gunther isn’t getting any Rosa anymore some Tiff might be just the thing to improve his attitude. More likely though she will invite him to a party where Bernice will make a move.

Walk faster Gunther

Maybe Gunther will realize that good sex doesn’t require much intelligence.

She’s starting to sound like Sarah Palin.

she doesn’t know the difference between europe and south america, yet she’s in college…this country…

Wow. Gunther developed snark.

I’m liking the “new” Gunther!By the way, I need an update: OK, Luann is at the local Junior College; Bernice, Tiffany, Quill, and now Gunther are at the University (“Mooney Uni”); and Rosa is still in Peru. Where did Delta, Crystal, and Knute go? I can’t remember if GE ever went into that (and I can’t find it in a cursory look at old strips).

This is how Tiffany got into Moony…. –

And whether it translates to us in the same way or not (which is inevitable, since this is part of the beauty and purpose of variety), this is the way that the characters are in the author’s head…. (just for an interesting reference) –

I once read in an interview with Christina Applegate that the “dumb blonde” is actually a harder character to pull off than people think.

Be careful, I hear she kills her partner and eats him after mating…

Just speaking about how he is today, ReallyBad.

Another case of forgetting time works in cartoons. It may not even be the same day that Gunther had his bio lab. And so what, hasn’t everybody cut a class occasionally? (I once had a student who stopped coming to class and doing assignments before the middle of the semester and then came to the final exam and asked if taking it was worth his while.)

“flaw of Tiffany’s character, she is not popular, nor never has been popular. ".The little kids like her, therefore she IS popular with a select few.I bet Shannon wouldn’t even bite her fingers.She’s THAT likeable.

Why isn’t Tiffany hanging out with the Moony U. football players? I thought she was going to convince the school to change it’s colors because she didn’t like them.-———————————————————-Also, as a run-up to Valentine’s Day, this arc is fraught with meaning.To Evans, anyway.

@firebrand1*"you must be form the Midwest … my wife from Chicago area makes the same grammatical mistake using “of” instead of “have”..I always figure it comes from hearing “would’ve”And thinking would of, could’ve and thinking could of, et cetera.If so, it’s ALL over the place.

An interesting one from a Clueless celebrity:

— “I think that the film Clueless was very deep. I think it was deep in the way that it was very light. I think lightness has to come from a very deep place if it’s true lightness.”– And from a “hard hitting” celebrity, found here and here..

It is indeed a MidWest thing! I should “of” gotten over saying this after all these decades of trying to always speak clearly and carefully in the classroom…. but truth be told, if I am rushed, speaking fast, tired at the end of the day, or if I have had a drink or two, the MidWest “of” comes back. :)

And for the “map gaffe” from a Miss Teen USA contestant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

Unfortunately, I known many ‘Tiffanys’ growing up and older and, sadly, the stereotype is accurate. Shallow, vain self-centered and mind-numbingly unaware of the world they inhabit.

Also in the Mid-Atlantic, even up through Philly/NJ, it’s not too strange to say the word “have”, but pronounce it like"of"…

Why/how did Tiffany get into the University, while Luann was stuck in community college. I know Luann wasn’t a stellar student, but surely she wasn’t as poor a one as Tiff.

Tiffany, Tiffany, Tiffany. You’re a real piece of work! lol

It seems clear that Greg Evans wants Gunther to learn how to act around girls, so that he can write the big Gunther-Luann romance he always felt Gunther deserved to have happen to him, for being such a “nice guy”. (And the nice guys always get the girl, right?) Rosa, however, failed to build Gunther’s self-confidence (except to lure him away to Peru, just long enough for Mommy to start dating, and that has had a major impact on the G-Man). So maybe now Tiffany can help make Gunther less of a wuss.

GUNTHER MANS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tiff…soon to be someone’s arm candy…working hard on her daddy’s dime here at the Univ. on her MRS…….

LOL, you would probably also say that “it wasn’t John Wilkes Booth that assassinated Abe Lincoln”, and that Lincoln “should have watched more Barnaby Jones and more James Bond”….

Luann did make a big trip to visit a bunch of colleges, and as soon as she got back she decided it was just a waste of time:-

In that case, Florida is part of the midwest because I see it written pretty much daily..Now if she pronounces the “f” of “of” as an eff, sound, then ….maybe.Around here “of” is pronounced like LUV without the ell (as the good Lord intended)..Which is to say “of” and " ’ve " are pronounced identically.

It wasn’t an insult. It was funnin’…. – And the strip Seismic showed was the equivalent of what I showed. They both said that she visited colleges. One just had Quill asking her. The other had Luann saying it. But she wouldn’t just say that she visited them, and didn’t….

And you usually ask for proof to say anything different from what you say, yet are willing to “infer” something with ‘logic’ and ‘reason’ (not that one shouldn’t use logic and reason) even when the characters or dialogue don’t specifically say what you’re saying….which is the point I was making…

“The French Disconnection” stars Gene Hackneyed….

@Dave53 “I didn’t see a retraction of that proclamation.”.It was implied, so you should’ve inferred it.

We didn’t actually see Luann on her college visits. We saw the strip where she left on the trip and the strip where she came back (the one posted above, with Quill in the food truck) but all the intervening strips were devoted to Brad and Toni. The whole college visit thing was spontaneous, since only one strip was devoted to her deciding to check out schools, while she accompanied her parents on a Thanksgiving trip to visit her aunt. Luann’s motives for the visits perhaps says all that needs to be said about her devotion to pursuing a college degree:-

“When did yelling at your mom suddenly make you cool?”-It doesn’t make you cool per se. It does determine autonomy, which in and of itself is cool. Now that he has gained autonomy, let’s see which direction he will go towards.

Exactly!

If one were to put these in sequence, it would tell the actual story (as someone mentioned, yesterday). Whether specific or inferred : -

– Though she was not looking at colleges to “boost” her “Honors Program” creds, and though she did include certain “conveniences”, and though delayed for a bit due to a family visit, one can easily infer/imply/read specific proof that though she didn’t go at the time she preferred, she did still visit some schools, whatever the reason was. And now, we see the product of her process, the fact that she is going to JC,…

“In the last panel, Gunth has a confident look about him.”

Se ve muy guapo con esa mirada!

Having read it, I second the “good show”, and agree… on both counts….

The look in Gunther’s eye’s says he’s back in self control mode. I think that the ego boost Tiff just gave him was helpful. I think he feels better that she is treating him differently than back in High School where she wavered between taking advantage of him and avoiding him.

Crystal and Knute were both at the New Year’s party!

http://www.gocomics.com/luann/2015/01/01#mutable_1248613

Sorry, I’m a lame o at using this forum. January 1 2015 strip has Crystal in it. If someone else posts the actual image successfully, they can have credit! So, TORAD and WF11, all is more right with the world!

Don’t do it, Gunth. You’ll hate yourself in the morning.

“retract all statements that Luann didn’t visit any colleges because she was too lazy to do so.”.Although, upon further contemplation, the retraction COULD be a retraction of the reason she didn’t do it Or a retraction of the claim she didn’t do itOr a retraction of the statements without assertion that they were false statements in part or completely

“just worked out that way, not because Luann planned it. She took the easiest path.” Hve you forgotten the Juilliard dream? She’s in junior college because that is all her father wanted to pay for.

Knute and Crystal were also there during the time TJ got an “idea” to turn that theatre into a new “business” space, in October of 2014 and during the “introduction of Mr. Gray” around November. They have also been in a few other places and strips, and have been around. It’s just the schooling that is not specified for them, as of yet…. –

For the same reason that so many “buzzwords”, text “abbreviations” and “grammatically incorrect speech” floods the TV shows, show titles, business names, and songs… a “breakdown” of what was considered “standard English”. It even seeps it’s way into the business office..

And the ones that naarf was mentioning: –

Diagramming of sentences doesn’t fit neatly into the standardized tests that are being slammed at kids these days. As you might know if you stopped constantly declaring war on the teaching profession and paid attention to what is actually happening in schools in the US these days.-Classes revolve around ‘teaching to the test’ because federal aid depends on schools achieving certain averages, and state legislatures continue to cut funds to schools.-It amazes me that people still choose to go into education, but the reality is, fewer and fewer are. The next generation sees that teachers are being blamed for everything while being allowed to do little useful or creative teaching, so they end up getting business or math degrees instead.-The irony is, if public education is to survive, it will have to depend on teachers imported from other nations. (Meanwhile, I have a niece and a nephew who are both teaching English as a second language in Asian countries, where they are actually allowed to teach and not run memory drills.)-That mayor may not end the teacher’s union that you have such a hatred for, though. Even green card workers in the US join unions when their safety is not protected by their employer, or reasonable working conditions (like access to clean restrooms and necessary equipment) can’t be secured any other way.-You should ask a coal miner about why there is a need for unions.

Say Hello to Gunthanny!

SPOILER ALERT-Conversation continues between T and G, and I pretty much called it on why she’s where she is. Interesting that, just like Rosa, T has alphabetical plans, too…

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