All this for a trip to the dog park? That is neither fun or exciting. This last week three weeks have been neither fun or exciting. Three of lame, old, hoary jokes that go nowhere and promise nothing in the future. Let’s pause in a moment of silence for the Death of Luann the former newspaper comic strip. Even Zits is better than this.
Dr Freud and Dr Jung were once friends until they had a disagreement. Luann start to realize that Bernice is having a freudian moment about having fun.
That’s a strange book to be reading for a freshman? sophomore? psychology course. But why expect anything to make sense now? Bernice has become unrecognizable; at this point she’s become a parody of herself. It’s grating.
The not plain Luann and her weirdly cute best friend, the brainiac Bernice. That bookbag looks very painful, but it’s dramatic exposition. I figure the dog park is the next stage in this arc; will it be a level leading to what? Romance? Something entirely unexpected? I go for the latter.
NOW GnK lined her eyes! Wonder if they read my comment about Luann being plain yesterday?? Her choices of clothes are improvements over the usual ones she wears. And…she’s wearing them to the park with lined eyes and earrings? Not for Bernice, for sure…the question is for who she is glammed up for? Jack or hoping to meet a cute guy through Puddles? AND betcha it would be Bernice who meets a new guy.
As expected, Luann’s idea of wild and crazy spontaneous fun is yet another walk in the dog park. If I recall correctly, Sunday Luann & Bernice did this a few months ago, complete with Luann being all dressed up.
My wife had a room mate at FSU, I remember her as a liberal arts major (either sociology or psychology) and they wre not particularly close but got along okay unlike some other “Odd Couple” roomies we have all experienced. Back in the late ‘80s we used to go to the games at Doak Campbell together and we’d sit in the student section (you bought tickets when you went fulltime, it was part of your fulltime fees) and I remember the young lady reading her books. At the time I thought it was a bit dorky and some people complained a lot (at the time FSU was a top 10 club with a stacked roster and competed for national championships) that she took the seat from some real football fan (more likely someone could have bought her seat and had it upgraded for coin)…. Now as I am older I think if it makes you happy, go ahead and do it, you paid for the ticket young lady and my apologies for being rude to Sarah from Daytona…….
Bernice goes out with her best friend preparing herself to the possibility of getting bored… I can understand that Dog Parks are great only for people with dogs, but that’s still a pretty rude thing to say!!! I just hope Luann will meet Jack and Bernice will help them understand what they are for each other.
When I was first learning Unix, I had taken my son with a couple of his friends to Six-flags. While they went on the rides, I found a quiet place to read the text book I had brought with me. A friend saw me there and was not the least bit surprised.
Luann is looking mighty fabulous for a mere trip to the dog park. While Bernie is…, “smart causal?”
So Bernice is taking reading material so she doesn’t get “bored” Eh? More and More I’m thinking that Bernice will wind up being anything but. Now, either the “distraction” will be Pud getting lost, or as I mentioned yesterday, some Guy. I mentioned Jack as a possibility. But Bernice knows Jack from the time she, Nil, Luann, and the big guy went bowling and Jack busted Lu’s foot. And Bern didn’t seem at all impressed with him. And for Jack to suddenly be interested in (Or understanding) anything that Bern is reading, and Bernice suddenly taking a liking to Jack, would be, IMHO, contrived beyond belief.
Nah. It’s gotta be a new Guy. Some new Neo-Nerd who’ll all but ignore the Fab Luann, in zero right in on the “book worm plain-Jane” Bernice. Or it could even be that Skyler guy Lu met at the dog park last year. They dated once and NOTHING. It would be Ironic if the “faceless” Skyler met and fell for Bernice. THAT would drive poor Lu right up the wall.
Ah! WHO knows at THIS point? The one thing I AM fairly sure of? This arc is going into next week. And perhaps beyond. Stay well, My Dear Friends. ;)
How long have these girls beem friends? Looks like they have grown waaay apart. Luann still needs to mature and Bernice acts like an eighty year old. Not much in common any more.
I’m going to bet that more persons at the dog park will be dressed like Bern and many will be sitting on a bench reading while the dogs play. Luann will the one who stands out (which may be what she wants).
So instead of sitting in Luann’s bedroom and Luann talking to Bernice while Bernice reads and ignores her, now they’ll be sitting in the dog park while Luann plays with Puddles and talks to Bernice, and Bernice reads and ignores her.
We need a zingy plot twist – soon. How about BERNICE meets a guy in the dog park. And Bernice begins inviting him to her room. Luann may not enjoy the thin walls at that point.
All three of Bernice’s responses could be used when a male finally asks her for sex. First panel is him asking if she wants to do it. Second panel is the same as Luann’s question. Third panel is the guy saying she is pretty and how should they start.
There was a young man of East Anglia / Whose thoughts were a tangle of ganglia. / His mind was a webbing Of Freud and Krafft-Ebing / And all sorts of other new-fanglia.
A psychiatrist fellow named Jung, / Asked his wife out to dinner while young. / But his wife had enjoyed / a luncheon with Freud, / And Jung felt that his ego’d been stung.
Just because the dog park is mentioned does not mean we will see the dog park soon. Especially in an end of the week strip. Crepes were mentioned a few days ago, but we have not seen any crepes.
so lets do something fun translates to walking the dog? sheesh. more like luann just wants to cruise Jack or some other guy hence she’s wearing heels instead of common sense sneakers. just leave Bernice to her studies , shes not interested in your type of fun Luann.
One does NOT walk a dog at the Dog Park. You let your dog off the leash so they can run around and play with other dogs. The owners usually sit and talk to each other while keeping an eye on their dogs. It is similar to taking small children to the park to play with other kids. The parents sit and talk to each other.
Yesterday Luann said she wanted to have fun. Dog park? Maybe you need to have a dog for that to be fun. I thought they were going to go clubbing. I like Jack and was thinking Luann and Jack would connect. Up to now they like each other but it hasn’t gone into the romance phase. When things started to heat up between Luann and Gunther I thought finally they would get together. But, it went nowhere. Just as Luann always liked Aaron Hill Gunther always liked Luann.
Imagine Luann reading that book title in the last panel sarcastically, and this strip is really funny. Reminds me of this book report in a ‘Calvin and Hobbes’: ‘The Dynamics of Interbeing and Monological Imperatives in ’Dick and Jane’‘: A Study in Psychic Transrelational Gender Modes.’
Well, Bernice, if you go somewhere expecting to be bored, you’ll probably be bored. But if you go expecting to have fun with Puddles, you just might have some fun with Puddles! I do think Lu’s shoes are a bit over the top, not really good on grass. Still, I’m interested to see what’s going to happen at the dog park. Let me look in my crystal ball: I see…dogs. Maybe mud. Maybe a muddy Bernice. Maybe a muddy Bernice and a very apologetic (and good looking) guy. After that, the crystal kind of goes hazy… Bets, anyone? (no, not her)
Sunday’s ‘toon: in an unusual move, the arc continues with Luann, Bernice and Puddles at the dog park, and a big, cute but clumsy golden retriever smashes into them while trying to catch a frisbee in the first frame. Second frame: a big, cute but clumsy blond-haired guy helps Luann and Bernice to get up and tries to apologize; Bernice angrily tells Luann to ’go play with your friend’.
Third frame: Bernice sits on a bench and tries to reorganize the bookbag, but the heavy book bag causes the bench to dump Bernice on her head. Unusual fourth frame: Bernice is lying silently on her back, not breathing. Will Luann return in time to save her former best friend’s life again with CPR? Or —
Monday: Toni and Brad announce to Nancy and Frank that they have both been assigned to help fight the Whale wildfire that started outside Los Angeles on August 15…
Didn’t Luann make a few much more interesting friends a few story arcs ago? Out of old friends, I wish they’d kept Delta, Knute, and Crystal and sent Bernice off to the University of Nebraska.
Rhetorical_Question about 4 years ago
Wow, that sounds boring
Templo S.U.D. about 4 years ago
In case Bernice gets bored of Luann’s fun or in case Luann gets bored of Bernice’s boredom?
AnyFace about 4 years ago
SactoSylvia about 4 years ago
Dog park. Jack. Luann.
Thus begins the rivalry arc.
Prescott_Philosopher about 4 years ago
I’d make a wise crack about Bernice’s choices of books, but many of my books leave others cold.
ACTIVIST1234 about 4 years ago
Dog park!! oh boy!! Who will we see there!! Oh boy!! Pritzi the poodle!! Oh boy!! Carla the Collie!! Oh boy!! Love will be found… by Pud.
Rhetorical_Question about 4 years ago
Call Jack and leave Bernice home.
beb01 about 4 years ago
All this for a trip to the dog park? That is neither fun or exciting. This last week three weeks have been neither fun or exciting. Three of lame, old, hoary jokes that go nowhere and promise nothing in the future. Let’s pause in a moment of silence for the Death of Luann the former newspaper comic strip. Even Zits is better than this.
Rhetorical_Question about 4 years ago
Dr Freud and Dr Jung were once friends until they had a disagreement. Luann start to realize that Bernice is having a freudian moment about having fun.
Airman about 4 years ago
Okay, Luann looks good for the dog park. Bernice looks more ready for a tattoo parlor.
Homeboy1865 about 4 years ago
At least Luann has a friend in Puddles. [Confession: I’m current reading about ten books so I can relate to Bernice.]
ACTIVIST1234 about 4 years ago
Luan now considers the dog park something wild, crazy, spontaneous? Maybe she’s maturing too.
wiatr about 4 years ago
Just a little light reading…
Caldonia about 4 years ago
That’s a strange book to be reading for a freshman? sophomore? psychology course. But why expect anything to make sense now? Bernice has become unrecognizable; at this point she’s become a parody of herself. It’s grating.
Enter.Name.Here about 4 years ago
“Fun” is relative. What person A likes, person B might not. Gotta find your own bliss.
Joe1962 about 4 years ago
Is Luann trying to get hit on at the dog park.
Brdshtt Premium Member about 4 years ago
Luann seems a bit overdressed for the dog park – especially the shoes. She might just encounter a gentleman suitor out there.
kenhense about 4 years ago
When is this plane taking off??
luann1212 about 4 years ago
The not plain Luann and her weirdly cute best friend, the brainiac Bernice. That bookbag looks very painful, but it’s dramatic exposition. I figure the dog park is the next stage in this arc; will it be a level leading to what? Romance? Something entirely unexpected? I go for the latter.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace about 4 years ago
Add a little spice to the reading.
And Luann made it with SECONDS to spare!!!
smurf764 about 4 years ago
Glad this week is over…..
DoloresJ.Nurss about 4 years ago
Ooh, I think that was the seminar where Jung told the turtle story!
capricorn9th about 4 years ago
NOW GnK lined her eyes! Wonder if they read my comment about Luann being plain yesterday?? Her choices of clothes are improvements over the usual ones she wears. And…she’s wearing them to the park with lined eyes and earrings? Not for Bernice, for sure…the question is for who she is glammed up for? Jack or hoping to meet a cute guy through Puddles? AND betcha it would be Bernice who meets a new guy.
jmworacle about 4 years ago
Is Luann dressed for the dog park or clubbing?
Roy G Biv about 4 years ago
As expected, Luann’s idea of wild and crazy spontaneous fun is yet another walk in the dog park. If I recall correctly, Sunday Luann & Bernice did this a few months ago, complete with Luann being all dressed up.
Plumb.Bob Premium Member about 4 years ago
Flash forward 10 years and Luann, summoned by Bernice via Uber, drops her at her TED talk.
Brdshtt Premium Member about 4 years ago
Freud: “What I wouldn’t give to be Jung again…”
TampaFanatic1 about 4 years ago
My wife had a room mate at FSU, I remember her as a liberal arts major (either sociology or psychology) and they wre not particularly close but got along okay unlike some other “Odd Couple” roomies we have all experienced. Back in the late ‘80s we used to go to the games at Doak Campbell together and we’d sit in the student section (you bought tickets when you went fulltime, it was part of your fulltime fees) and I remember the young lady reading her books. At the time I thought it was a bit dorky and some people complained a lot (at the time FSU was a top 10 club with a stacked roster and competed for national championships) that she took the seat from some real football fan (more likely someone could have bought her seat and had it upgraded for coin)…. Now as I am older I think if it makes you happy, go ahead and do it, you paid for the ticket young lady and my apologies for being rude to Sarah from Daytona…….
Don Draper about 4 years ago
“Opposites are not contradictory, but complementary.”
—Niels Bohr
Rhetorical_Question about 4 years ago
Do I dare dream it – a 4th week of Luann and Bernice [Freud & Jung]
Sanspareil about 4 years ago
They are going to meet Jack and well you know!
Rhetorical_Question about 4 years ago
https://www.gocomics.com/luann/2007/01/22
Aladar30 Premium Member about 4 years ago
Bernice goes out with her best friend preparing herself to the possibility of getting bored… I can understand that Dog Parks are great only for people with dogs, but that’s still a pretty rude thing to say!!! I just hope Luann will meet Jack and Bernice will help them understand what they are for each other.
Qiset about 4 years ago
When I was first learning Unix, I had taken my son with a couple of his friends to Six-flags. While they went on the rides, I found a quiet place to read the text book I had brought with me. A friend saw me there and was not the least bit surprised.
Barry1941 about 4 years ago
I can see great success in life for Bernice, Lulu, not so much.
BradFilippone about 4 years ago
I can sympathize. I have so many friends who think my forty-years-and-counting obsession with Shakespeare is boring.
sallymargret about 4 years ago
I always have a book with me wherever I go. Trouble is, they’re so HEAVY. Bernice certainly has a load of them.
Ellis97 about 4 years ago
Stop being such a square, Bernice.
cubswin2016 about 4 years ago
Bernice really knows how to let loose, doesn’t she?
dayle2 about 4 years ago
Ok…did anyone notice that Luann is wearing HEELS to go to a DOG PARK???
Mordock999 Premium Member about 4 years ago
Luann is looking mighty fabulous for a mere trip to the dog park. While Bernie is…, “smart causal?”
So Bernice is taking reading material so she doesn’t get “bored” Eh? More and More I’m thinking that Bernice will wind up being anything but. Now, either the “distraction” will be Pud getting lost, or as I mentioned yesterday, some Guy. I mentioned Jack as a possibility. But Bernice knows Jack from the time she, Nil, Luann, and the big guy went bowling and Jack busted Lu’s foot. And Bern didn’t seem at all impressed with him. And for Jack to suddenly be interested in (Or understanding) anything that Bern is reading, and Bernice suddenly taking a liking to Jack, would be, IMHO, contrived beyond belief.
Nah. It’s gotta be a new Guy. Some new Neo-Nerd who’ll all but ignore the Fab Luann, in zero right in on the “book worm plain-Jane” Bernice. Or it could even be that Skyler guy Lu met at the dog park last year. They dated once and NOTHING. It would be Ironic if the “faceless” Skyler met and fell for Bernice. THAT would drive poor Lu right up the wall.
Ah! WHO knows at THIS point? The one thing I AM fairly sure of? This arc is going into next week. And perhaps beyond. Stay well, My Dear Friends. ;)
AryaAryadiptaSurTabs about 4 years ago
Book by Luann □HOW TO CUDDLE WITH PUDDLE□
TheresaNoll about 4 years ago
Heels to walk a dog in a dog park? Seriously?
Tyge about 4 years ago
YIPPEE! We’re going to the dog park! We’re going to the dog park!" YIPPEE!
Maybe Jack and Max will be there!
jonesbeltone about 4 years ago
Bernice, take notes on Lu Ann’s clothes. She does know how to dress. You do NOT.
Tyge about 4 years ago
Luann did pretty well with her two hours from yeaterday.
Tyge about 4 years ago
Dear Freud, Jung, et al. The human mind will never (CAN never) completely understand itself.
So, as the Psych from M*A*S*H once poetically opined: “Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice! Pull down your pants and slide on the ice.”
comic reader 22 about 4 years ago
I really think this is going to lead to Bernice meeting someone special, just wish Luann would lighten up on her a little bit.
kingbrlee Premium Member about 4 years ago
Bernice has turned into a real fun gal.
Rauderi about 4 years ago
Jung was influential but not someone a modern psychology student should be devoting any real amount of time into.
PeterPirate about 4 years ago
Next week: Bernice meets an acolyte of Sigmund Freud at the dog park. Hilarity ensues.
CreativeChef about 4 years ago
Bernice is one smart lady.
rugeirn about 4 years ago
Hey, she could listen to Jung on audio! https://www.amazon.com/Theory-of-Psychoanalysis-audiobook/dp/B005G23BIK
CreativeChef about 4 years ago
Wonder if they will meet any guys, Luann will be nice and passive and afterwards, wasn’t he nice. Maybe she is changing I hope so
YorkGirl Premium Member about 4 years ago
Lol! Maybe she’ll find someone to help carry those heavy books! Friend of Jack’s?
Cole Rene Premium Member about 4 years ago
How long have these girls beem friends? Looks like they have grown waaay apart. Luann still needs to mature and Bernice acts like an eighty year old. Not much in common any more.
YorkGirl Premium Member about 4 years ago
Unless they run into her brother and the kids!
ForrestOverin about 4 years ago
Nothing says “I consider you good company!” like bringing a book along on your outing.
rshive about 4 years ago
Just light lunchtime reading.
Ukko wilko about 4 years ago
Actually, it’s Analytical Psychology of Young Women, Nineteen to Twenty-Five.
RSH about 4 years ago
I’m going to bet that more persons at the dog park will be dressed like Bern and many will be sitting on a bench reading while the dogs play. Luann will the one who stands out (which may be what she wants).
Sisyphos about 4 years ago
Luann is pretty dressed up for just taking Puddles for a walk. Wink wink.
Bernie obviously needs some “heavy” reading to keep her from getting bored while Luann flirts with whatever guy is the Guy of the Day (Jack?)….
bob-droid12 about 4 years ago
Hey, Jungian psychology is interesting; we wouldn’t have the Persona games without it.
w16521 about 4 years ago
Its pretty obvious Luann and Bernice have become very different people. Time for their friendship to come to an end.
GaryCooper about 4 years ago
High heels for the dog park, Luann?
eladee AKA Wally about 4 years ago
So the spontaneous wild adventure is a trip to the dog park?!?!
GirlGeek Premium Member about 4 years ago
Please end this madness
wantcomicsnow about 4 years ago
So instead of sitting in Luann’s bedroom and Luann talking to Bernice while Bernice reads and ignores her, now they’ll be sitting in the dog park while Luann plays with Puddles and talks to Bernice, and Bernice reads and ignores her.
WOW! Way to change things up, team Evans! /s
kenhense about 4 years ago
We need a zingy plot twist – soon. How about BERNICE meets a guy in the dog park. And Bernice begins inviting him to her room. Luann may not enjoy the thin walls at that point.
locake about 4 years ago
All three of Bernice’s responses could be used when a male finally asks her for sex. First panel is him asking if she wants to do it. Second panel is the same as Luann’s question. Third panel is the guy saying she is pretty and how should they start.
Tyge about 4 years ago
There was a young man of East Anglia / Whose thoughts were a tangle of ganglia. / His mind was a webbing Of Freud and Krafft-Ebing / And all sorts of other new-fanglia.
A psychiatrist fellow named Jung, / Asked his wife out to dinner while young. / But his wife had enjoyed / a luncheon with Freud, / And Jung felt that his ego’d been stung.
(Yeah! There are some clean ones out there.) 8^ )
dougsathome about 4 years ago
That’s a good book, except for all the text.
GreggW Premium Member about 4 years ago
“Man and His Symbols” would be a lighter read.
Johnnyrico about 4 years ago
“Just slip it in there”…. Tee Hee Hee…!
txmystic about 4 years ago
Luann looks good in capri pants
locake about 4 years ago
Just because the dog park is mentioned does not mean we will see the dog park soon. Especially in an end of the week strip. Crepes were mentioned a few days ago, but we have not seen any crepes.
illuminare about 4 years ago
so lets do something fun translates to walking the dog? sheesh. more like luann just wants to cruise Jack or some other guy hence she’s wearing heels instead of common sense sneakers. just leave Bernice to her studies , shes not interested in your type of fun Luann.
Schrodinger's Dog about 4 years ago
Sunday: Brad and Toni feel bored.
jamesamber29 about 4 years ago
Luann both sarcastic and helpful.
limarick about 4 years ago
Anyone who would be bored at a dog park is not my kind of person
Z-bert about 4 years ago
I think it’s time for Bernice to find out that Psychology is not the field for her.
Willow Mt Lyon about 4 years ago
Cute outfit, but those shoes don’t look comfortable to wear while playing with a dog.
Doctor Go about 4 years ago
I often meet Jungian psychology majors in dog parks…
locake about 4 years ago
One does NOT walk a dog at the Dog Park. You let your dog off the leash so they can run around and play with other dogs. The owners usually sit and talk to each other while keeping an eye on their dogs. It is similar to taking small children to the park to play with other kids. The parents sit and talk to each other.
Dr. Caligari about 4 years ago
Eight meet forty.
mpearl about 4 years ago
where have I heard that last line before?
mpearl about 4 years ago
I forget, what does Zane look like, again?
timbob2313 Premium Member about 4 years ago
Luann really does not want to grow up.
KEA about 4 years ago
Is Berniece an American cousin of Hermione?
pekelopan Premium Member about 4 years ago
Yesterday Luann said she wanted to have fun. Dog park? Maybe you need to have a dog for that to be fun. I thought they were going to go clubbing. I like Jack and was thinking Luann and Jack would connect. Up to now they like each other but it hasn’t gone into the romance phase. When things started to heat up between Luann and Gunther I thought finally they would get together. But, it went nowhere. Just as Luann always liked Aaron Hill Gunther always liked Luann.
RSH about 4 years ago
Maybe Jack (if he’s there) on seeing Bern’s reading material will start a conversation about animal behavior and psychology.
Otis Rufus Driftwood about 4 years ago
Imagine Luann reading that book title in the last panel sarcastically, and this strip is really funny. Reminds me of this book report in a ‘Calvin and Hobbes’: ‘The Dynamics of Interbeing and Monological Imperatives in ’Dick and Jane’‘: A Study in Psychic Transrelational Gender Modes.’
Joe1962 about 4 years ago
Monday will be week 4 or a new strip.
asrialfeeple about 4 years ago
Luann looks cute. I’m sure Jack will like it.
mistercatworks about 4 years ago
If you don’t bring a dog, a dog park is just a park where you have to watch where you step.
dcoyote about 4 years ago
Uuuugh, can Bernice be even more boring
PhoenixHocking about 4 years ago
Looks like they both could learn from each other.
PhoenixHocking about 4 years ago
Well, Bernice, if you go somewhere expecting to be bored, you’ll probably be bored. But if you go expecting to have fun with Puddles, you just might have some fun with Puddles! I do think Lu’s shoes are a bit over the top, not really good on grass. Still, I’m interested to see what’s going to happen at the dog park. Let me look in my crystal ball: I see…dogs. Maybe mud. Maybe a muddy Bernice. Maybe a muddy Bernice and a very apologetic (and good looking) guy. After that, the crystal kind of goes hazy… Bets, anyone? (no, not her)
Uncle Bob about 4 years ago
I had a buddy in college who used to bail out and go to the library at halftime of our football games. He’s a neurosurgeon now. He drives a Lambo…
MyWord about 4 years ago
Who wears heels to the dog park???
ScretWitch about 4 years ago
Heels to a dog park?
bakana about 4 years ago
She can Study while surrounded by a bunch of Yapping Dogs?
Argythree about 4 years ago
Sunday’s ‘toon: in an unusual move, the arc continues with Luann, Bernice and Puddles at the dog park, and a big, cute but clumsy golden retriever smashes into them while trying to catch a frisbee in the first frame. Second frame: a big, cute but clumsy blond-haired guy helps Luann and Bernice to get up and tries to apologize; Bernice angrily tells Luann to ’go play with your friend’.
Third frame: Bernice sits on a bench and tries to reorganize the bookbag, but the heavy book bag causes the bench to dump Bernice on her head. Unusual fourth frame: Bernice is lying silently on her back, not breathing. Will Luann return in time to save her former best friend’s life again with CPR? Or —
Monday: Toni and Brad announce to Nancy and Frank that they have both been assigned to help fight the Whale wildfire that started outside Los Angeles on August 15…
fix-n-fly about 4 years ago
So – dress like that more often Luann and leave the ‘tude at home and I’ll bet you can get a guy.
TIMH about 4 years ago
Didn’t Luann make a few much more interesting friends a few story arcs ago? Out of old friends, I wish they’d kept Delta, Knute, and Crystal and sent Bernice off to the University of Nebraska.
JasonBall about 4 years ago
Luann’s torso has got the seatbelt effect going on.
Chrystos B Minot Premium Member about 4 years ago
Love this. I can totally relate to both of them! Such a nice ‘odd couple’ chemistry…! Carry on! :-)
Guilty Bystander about 4 years ago
Oh to be Jung again…