Leslie is right! Gunther is blind to how manipulative Bets is. Hopefully he will come around. Bets should want to be with Gunther because she cares for him….not because she cares for him getting her “views” and “likes”.
Les tells it like it is. It didn’t take much to convince Gunther to sew those costumes. He lets Betts walk all over him. Studying is more important, and Betts should have accepted the fact that he needs the time to study.
That’s quite the sassy little pose Gunther is making in the third panel. I feel bad for the commenter who claimed there was “a man’s man” underneath Gunther’s awkward exterior, because that stance says otherwise.
Right now, of Les and Bets’ date, we only have Bets’ side of the story.
Just suppose…was it the other way around?
Granted, Les and Bets’ date was a couple years ago our time, maybe a couple weeks their time; nevertheless, Les was still somewhat in his bad boy days. We don’t know.
But I’m wondering, if the truth be told, which is the one who dumped whom – and why?
Rosa once told Gunther that she had to make all the social moves for him. So, he’s got his mold, and he ain’t gettin’ out of it. Do unto him what you will, Bets.
I really like Bets in that she’s felt pretty well-rounded right out the gate. Like, she has a vibrant, go-getter personality, but people are right in saying that she’s pushy/bossy (and then there’s the jealousy thing she had about Luann).
Especially because her pushiness does feel more…“balanced”(?) than being straight up manipulative or forceful. Sure, Gunther has expressed reluctance in things like being involved in her social media, or right now where she’s talked him into sewing them costumes, but ultimately he seems to enjoy himself or at least grow more comfortable with being more social and outgoing by the end of it. I’m sure there needs to be a line drawn somewhere down the road, but I really enjoy Bets as a character and get kinda frustrated that half the plot lines she’s featured in have other characters raising their eyebrows like she’s some sort of wolf-in-sheeps-clothing tyrant.
Bets is quite the catch for the ol’ Gunner. However, she is getting to be a bit too much. What am I saying….she’s always been too much. They would be perfect for each other if she could chill the f out but I don’t see her changing at this point.
Nope, you’re mistaken, Gunther. Your spine was pulverized and it was sad to witness. Dump Bets. You have known she is bossy, demanding, jealous, suspicious, domineering, unreasonable…all the unflattering adjectives. Yes, she was a rare one who is interested in you but she is interested in you for all the wrong reasons which is all in name of self-interest. Bets’s priority is…Bets – and her social media followers. Don’t put up with her because you rather have a girlfriend than being alone. Someday, you will realize it is better to be alone than be miserable in a bad relationship.
Where is is Morty? What got me in this whole story line is that Bets didn’t ask Gunther to sew the outfits, she told him to do it. Not only is that bossy, but it is also impolite. If Bets has true feelings for Gunther she should be supportive to his needs, especially school work.
Les is trying to help Gunther understand how unfair this situation is!? GO LES! He’s a great cousin ♡!I really miss it when Gunther had the “three days beard”. He had a horrible temper, was irritable, victimize and selfish. But he seemed better able to look around and know when someone was taking advantage of him. Now he looks so weak, so manipulable. Gunther really loves Bets♡, so much that he is unable to see flaws in her. Let’s hope this doesn’t affect his grades too much.
Les is right, Gunther. Bets is a pushy jerk who’s only out to impress her unseen internet audience. Hope you still have that attitude when you fail your classes after working on those dumb costumes, only to have her spend the entire dinner on her phone and ignoring you.
Social media influencers with Bets’ following can earn thousands of $ per post. I wonder if she’s sharing any of that with Gunther. She also ought to commit to promoting Tiff’s business, especially TJ as chef. I bet she won’t.
So, Betts has Gunthie sewing costumes. Considering his track record with women, I guess he considers the reward worth it. At least it beats fixing tech stuff in Peru.
OK, I’m changing my position, Gunther should have ( nicely) told Bets he doesn’t have time for her plans. See what happens. A YouTube influencer ( or whatever) probably isn’t his type anyway.
Gunther is comfortable with Bets. The other girls made him nervous and sweaty. He puts up with Bets because Bets “puts out” for Gunther. It is obvious that they share a very active sex life.
Gunther probably has the perfect girlfriend, even if she is pushy. He does love to sew. He loves it a lot, but it’s easier for a boy or man to say his girlfriend made him do it instead of just admitting that’s what he wants to be doing. He might have a hard time finding another girl who not only admires his talent but encourages it and provides an outlet for him to sew any time he wants. It is odd he doesn’t work on spiffing up his own wardrobe…just sayin’.
And Now we see Gunther get angry. Too bad his anger is not directed at the person he should be angry with – - Bets. If Gunther can’t recognize his true feelings he will continue to let Bets and other people run over him.
Alas, poor Gunther. Feline flagellated men often don’t understand that all women have one. Some lucky men manage to pull their head out and let the other one do some work. I hope Gunther does before too much damage occurs.
Just live in the moment. If Gun is doing well in school and can handle a relationship, then it’s all good. What difference does it make as long as he is having fun? Personally? I am not a Gun fan; however, in this matter it’s all about balance. If the costume making isn’t impacting his grades and he enjoys being with Bets then the point is moot.
Great line, Les. I’m starting to like this guy; he speaks the truth, even knowing he’s not being listened to. And if his cat loves him, that’s a good indicator of character. Cats see through the facades we put up. . .
Divergent views of the same situation. But Gunther is enjoying real benefits. Sewing is not picking cotton or coal mining, and a kitten is no substitute for a real, “physically enthusiastic” woman! Sew, Gunther! You are well compensated.
Going back to last Saturday’s strip, I missed the fact that we saw a confrontation between two quite bossy types. The final confrontation at the TTF2, if it ever happens, should be interesting.
We don’t know what either is thinking. This could be exactly what Gunther wants. She may correctly or incorrectly think it’s what he wants. She may be thinking of him or just herself.
Les knows what Bets is up to; he’s got too much experience with manipulators not to see that this isn’t healthy. Ultimately, it’s Gunther’s decision what he does with his life, including his love life, but hopefully he starts to see what Les is talking about. His relationship with Bets can work out and continue, but it is awfully one-sided right now. He needs to learn how to stick up for his own needs.
Templo S.U.D. over 3 years ago
sooner or later, Gunther’s going to see the light into which Leslie is trying to guide him
AnyFace over 3 years ago
DaJellyBelly over 3 years ago
Leslie should keep his nose out of Gunther’s life choices!
lvlax over 3 years ago
Leslie is right! Gunther is blind to how manipulative Bets is. Hopefully he will come around. Bets should want to be with Gunther because she cares for him….not because she cares for him getting her “views” and “likes”.
Willow Mt Lyon over 3 years ago
Les tells it like it is. It didn’t take much to convince Gunther to sew those costumes. He lets Betts walk all over him. Studying is more important, and Betts should have accepted the fact that he needs the time to study.
BJShipley1 over 3 years ago
That’s quite the sassy little pose Gunther is making in the third panel. I feel bad for the commenter who claimed there was “a man’s man” underneath Gunther’s awkward exterior, because that stance says otherwise.
lvlax over 3 years ago
Looks like Bets has Gunther’s ____ in a jar on her night table. It’s SAD to see!
sallymargret over 3 years ago
Gunther is going to start thinking about it now.
TexTech over 3 years ago
I do generally find Les to be a major jerk. But I must admit, I really like his snark at the end. “I must wallow in my heartbreak.”
Pointspread over 3 years ago
They each have a relationship they enjoy: Les has Punk, Gun has his Holster. Respect each other’s choices.
ronaldspence over 3 years ago
Gunther obviously cares enough about Bets to adjure certain rights and freedoms but that is hopefully a conscious choice..
Cheapskate0 over 3 years ago
Here’s a thought.
Right now, of Les and Bets’ date, we only have Bets’ side of the story.
Just suppose…was it the other way around?
Granted, Les and Bets’ date was a couple years ago our time, maybe a couple weeks their time; nevertheless, Les was still somewhat in his bad boy days. We don’t know.
But I’m wondering, if the truth be told, which is the one who dumped whom – and why?
Joe1962 over 3 years ago
Les is right!!! Gunther lets Bets boss him around.
kenhense over 3 years ago
Gunther knows a lot about everything but himself.
artsyguy65 over 3 years ago
Who are we to judge? Perhaps the BETS/gunther relationship gives both of them exactly what they seek in a partner?
kenhense over 3 years ago
So this dinner will have to be videoed. Two 18th century pirates trying to get down a bowl of radishes & leeks.
JCB over 3 years ago
At the rate this is going, he should just sew her a Wicked Witch costume and make his costume one of her flying monkeys.
Caldonia over 3 years ago
I hate when Evans draws Gunther angry. Dat face. Little fists on his little hips. Might as well be Daffy Duck.
Airman over 3 years ago
Rosa once told Gunther that she had to make all the social moves for him. So, he’s got his mold, and he ain’t gettin’ out of it. Do unto him what you will, Bets.
exarmyofficer over 3 years ago
Now if Rosa reappeared….
blunebottle over 3 years ago
40 points to Les today!
mangapackrat over 3 years ago
I really like Bets in that she’s felt pretty well-rounded right out the gate. Like, she has a vibrant, go-getter personality, but people are right in saying that she’s pushy/bossy (and then there’s the jealousy thing she had about Luann).
Especially because her pushiness does feel more…“balanced”(?) than being straight up manipulative or forceful. Sure, Gunther has expressed reluctance in things like being involved in her social media, or right now where she’s talked him into sewing them costumes, but ultimately he seems to enjoy himself or at least grow more comfortable with being more social and outgoing by the end of it. I’m sure there needs to be a line drawn somewhere down the road, but I really enjoy Bets as a character and get kinda frustrated that half the plot lines she’s featured in have other characters raising their eyebrows like she’s some sort of wolf-in-sheeps-clothing tyrant.
blunebottle over 3 years ago
Where’s Mordy? He gotta have something to say about this.
reedkomicks Premium Member over 3 years ago
She is neither “forcing” him, or “convincing” him. She’s “managing” him. Gun needs a lot of managing, otherwise he nor she would have any fun at all!
Ruth Brown over 3 years ago
Does Gunther know that this date is going to be a media event?
GirlGeek Premium Member over 3 years ago
I agree with Les. You just let her walk all over you
Baarorso over 3 years ago
Face it Gunth-she jawbones you until you give in. Grow a spine for once!
R.W.Singer -SF over 3 years ago
Bets is quite the catch for the ol’ Gunner. However, she is getting to be a bit too much. What am I saying….she’s always been too much. They would be perfect for each other if she could chill the f out but I don’t see her changing at this point.
Brdshtt Premium Member over 3 years ago
Gunther’s thought cogs are getting caught up in his rusty, kinky hair.
capricorn9th over 3 years ago
Nope, you’re mistaken, Gunther. Your spine was pulverized and it was sad to witness. Dump Bets. You have known she is bossy, demanding, jealous, suspicious, domineering, unreasonable…all the unflattering adjectives. Yes, she was a rare one who is interested in you but she is interested in you for all the wrong reasons which is all in name of self-interest. Bets’s priority is…Bets – and her social media followers. Don’t put up with her because you rather have a girlfriend than being alone. Someday, you will realize it is better to be alone than be miserable in a bad relationship.
pekelopan Premium Member over 3 years ago
Where is is Morty? What got me in this whole story line is that Bets didn’t ask Gunther to sew the outfits, she told him to do it. Not only is that bossy, but it is also impolite. If Bets has true feelings for Gunther she should be supportive to his needs, especially school work.
Rhetorical_Question over 3 years ago
Gunther was robbed again! Will Gunther see the light? Nay, Gunther is neophyte
brendancalling over 3 years ago
I appreciate how the only likeable character in this strip is the one who was specifically written as unlikeable.
Rhetorical_Question over 3 years ago
Leslie Knox has not recovered from Tiffany episode where she stated that he was icky
Rhetorical_Question over 3 years ago
Remember https://www.gocomics.com/luann/2021/03/27 ? This special dinner is for the fans.
Aladar30 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Les is trying to help Gunther understand how unfair this situation is!? GO LES! He’s a great cousin ♡!I really miss it when Gunther had the “three days beard”. He had a horrible temper, was irritable, victimize and selfish. But he seemed better able to look around and know when someone was taking advantage of him. Now he looks so weak, so manipulable. Gunther really loves Bets♡, so much that he is unable to see flaws in her. Let’s hope this doesn’t affect his grades too much.
sueb1863 over 3 years ago
Les is right, Gunther. Bets is a pushy jerk who’s only out to impress her unseen internet audience. Hope you still have that attitude when you fail your classes after working on those dumb costumes, only to have her spend the entire dinner on her phone and ignoring you.
drewpamon over 3 years ago
So many dude bros have got advice here for Gunther
ianm over 3 years ago
Remembering the outfit Gunther sewed for Luann – https://www.gocomics.com/luann/2008/10/28 I can’t wait to see what he makes for Bets.
jmworacle over 3 years ago
It’s scary that Les is making sense.
Decius Premium Member over 3 years ago
Social media influencers with Bets’ following can earn thousands of $ per post. I wonder if she’s sharing any of that with Gunther. She also ought to commit to promoting Tiff’s business, especially TJ as chef. I bet she won’t.
Wubbie over 3 years ago
So, Betts has Gunthie sewing costumes. Considering his track record with women, I guess he considers the reward worth it. At least it beats fixing tech stuff in Peru.
Ontman over 3 years ago
I’m with Les on this one.
Ellis97 over 3 years ago
Gunther just can’t see what’s in front of his face.
EasyEight over 3 years ago
Les is turning into an insightful and tolerable character. Who would have thunk?
Michael G. over 3 years ago
She’s got him in deep check. :-0
WilliamVollmer over 3 years ago
Gunther is right, Les IS jealous of him having a relationship with Bets. Unfortunately, Les is also right, it does look like Bets is using Gunther.
ctolson over 3 years ago
Hate to admit it but Les is right on this one.
katzpawz1a over 3 years ago
He climbed on that barge and floated up de-nile a long, long time ago!!!!
Jim2g over 3 years ago
It’s a shame, don’t let her boss you around
elliel203 over 3 years ago
I agree with Les. Never thought that sentence would enter this space…
Cuckooman Premium Member over 3 years ago
OK, I’m changing my position, Gunther should have ( nicely) told Bets he doesn’t have time for her plans. See what happens. A YouTube influencer ( or whatever) probably isn’t his type anyway.
montylc2001 over 3 years ago
I dunno. It depends on the girl. Or woman. My wife is a little bossy, but the benefits far outweigh the bad.
RSH over 3 years ago
Les asks a question. But instead of answering Gunther gets defensive and tries to 2nd guess. To be continued…. I hope.
Fontessa over 3 years ago
I wish Gunther would sew himself a new shirt.
Decepticomic over 3 years ago
Maybe they’re both right.
dv1093 over 3 years ago
I think Gunther’s best Bet (pun intended) was that gal who took off to Peru.
Airman over 3 years ago
Gunther is comfortable with Bets. The other girls made him nervous and sweaty. He puts up with Bets because Bets “puts out” for Gunther. It is obvious that they share a very active sex life.
Schrodinger's Dog over 3 years ago
Sunday: Shannon hunts Easter eggs !!!
Rich_Pa over 3 years ago
It’s time to write Gunther out of the strip. Tired of him getting upset about everything.
comic reader 22 over 3 years ago
Gunther probably has the perfect girlfriend, even if she is pushy. He does love to sew. He loves it a lot, but it’s easier for a boy or man to say his girlfriend made him do it instead of just admitting that’s what he wants to be doing. He might have a hard time finding another girl who not only admires his talent but encourages it and provides an outlet for him to sew any time he wants. It is odd he doesn’t work on spiffing up his own wardrobe…just sayin’.
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 3 years ago
Not sad if Gunther has her___in a jar on his night table!
locake over 3 years ago
And Now we see Gunther get angry. Too bad his anger is not directed at the person he should be angry with – - Bets. If Gunther can’t recognize his true feelings he will continue to let Bets and other people run over him.
BearHamilton over 3 years ago
Alas, poor Gunther. Feline flagellated men often don’t understand that all women have one. Some lucky men manage to pull their head out and let the other one do some work. I hope Gunther does before too much damage occurs.
Font Lady Premium Member over 3 years ago
Les is owned by a cat.
Rocknaww over 3 years ago
Just live in the moment. If Gun is doing well in school and can handle a relationship, then it’s all good. What difference does it make as long as he is having fun? Personally? I am not a Gun fan; however, in this matter it’s all about balance. If the costume making isn’t impacting his grades and he enjoys being with Bets then the point is moot.
Otis Rufus Driftwood over 3 years ago
The difference between ‘convincing’ and ‘bossing’ is a thin line indeed.
random boredom over 3 years ago
Les has a point. What a character shift from being unlikable bully to a voice of reasons.
Ukko wilko over 3 years ago
Gotta go with Les on this one.
KEA over 3 years ago
Kittens are marginally less demanding than girlfriends
wantcomicsnow over 3 years ago
Oh, good one Les! :D
Cincoflex over 3 years ago
I love that Les is telling the truth as kindly as HE knows how. I just wish Gunther would actually HEAR it.
Mayor Snorkum over 3 years ago
Great line, Les. I’m starting to like this guy; he speaks the truth, even knowing he’s not being listened to. And if his cat loves him, that’s a good indicator of character. Cats see through the facades we put up. . .
YorkGirl Premium Member over 3 years ago
That’s one way to look at it, Gunther! Guess he’s ok with it, but for how long?
CynthiaLeigh over 3 years ago
I’m liking Les more and more.
Tyge over 3 years ago
Les is reading from the BRO CODE! Chapter and verse!
imagenesis over 3 years ago
Gunth, force and convince are almost the same thing buddy! Open your eyes and see the red flags, there are better fish in the sea!
Call me Ishmael over 3 years ago
Divergent views of the same situation. But Gunther is enjoying real benefits. Sewing is not picking cotton or coal mining, and a kitten is no substitute for a real, “physically enthusiastic” woman! Sew, Gunther! You are well compensated.
ajh2i over 3 years ago
Listen to Les!
Tyge over 3 years ago
Going back to last Saturday’s strip, I missed the fact that we saw a confrontation between two quite bossy types. The final confrontation at the TTF2, if it ever happens, should be interesting.
Tyge over 3 years ago
In panel three Gunther provides a perfect example of rationalization.
shamest Premium Member over 3 years ago
Les is rough around the edges. But he is trying to help you, dude. You need to stand up to her because she does not respect you.
DG over 3 years ago
I do have to wonder if this nice dinner for two is for Gunther or her online followers.
LeighBurton over 3 years ago
Les has become much more caring than he used to be!
Kiwiwriter47 over 3 years ago
Well, we shall see, but not next week, I’m sure.
PeterPirate over 3 years ago
I don’t see how this works out well for Bets, especially if she and Gun actually show up at the mansion dressed as pirates.
Maybe Les will clue Gun in about the formal dinner that Tiffany is preparing.
BlitzMcD over 3 years ago
I suddenly have a whole new respect for Les.
JPuzzleWhiz over 3 years ago
“Dump And Dumper”
“♪♫ Going To The Big J, And I Mean Jealous…”
“May The ’Didn’t Force’ Be With You”
bakana over 3 years ago
Les is missing the part where Gunther Loves to Sew.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 3 years ago
Something to be said for both viewpoints.
We don’t know what either is thinking. This could be exactly what Gunther wants. She may correctly or incorrectly think it’s what he wants. She may be thinking of him or just herself.
To Be Determined
Sisyphos over 3 years ago
Leslie has Gunther’s number. Gunny is blinded by his infatuation with a girl who seems (to him) to care for him—and is, BTW, quite attractive, too!
Alas! I once had such hope for Gunny & Bets. Now it is all falling apart….
tkspring over 3 years ago
Trump was a major Covfefe!
DorothyGlenn Premium Member over 3 years ago
I am liking Snarky Les more these days. lol
Don Draper over 3 years ago
Deflection, Gunther?
C’mon, you’re better than that.
PhoenixHocking over 3 years ago
Perhaps the seed has been planted, and maybe Gunther (I refuse to call him “Gun”) will ditch the bossy chick. She’s a user and a loser.
me_the_polish_gull over 3 years ago
Les has a point. You don’t have to do everything your loved one tells you to do. Poor Gunther, knows that, but Bets just manipulated him.
calliarcale over 3 years ago
Les knows what Bets is up to; he’s got too much experience with manipulators not to see that this isn’t healthy. Ultimately, it’s Gunther’s decision what he does with his life, including his love life, but hopefully he starts to see what Les is talking about. His relationship with Bets can work out and continue, but it is awfully one-sided right now. He needs to learn how to stick up for his own needs.
Takagi-san over 3 years ago
I now officially like Les.
Tom Eisenmenger over 3 years ago
My God – I’m beginning to think I actually am beginning to like Les. Someone help me, please!
KelJones over 3 years ago
Never thought I’d agree fully with Les. Poor Gunther is smitten and doesn’t realize Bets is preying on him.
nisedc over 3 years ago
I like Les even more each time he appears. he’s become FUNNY! but I still wonder if he ever paid back that jar of tip money he stole.
Ceeg22 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Les has a cat, that’s better
Alia Noora almost 3 years ago
Les is correct.
kitkat395 7 months ago
bets is so lame