If the premise is that a falling tree causes atmospheric vibrations but those are called “sound” only when they are noticed by a living being, does that being have to be human? What about a squirrel? An ant? A nematode?
Egocentric is correct. What else are the vibrations called if there’s nothing around to sense it? The ability to sense those vibrations is called hearing.
Are we living in a computer simulation like The Matrix? How would we know?
Why is there something rather than nothing? How would we know?
Was the entire world created 5 minutes ago, including each of us with all our memories intact? How would we know?
In Edwin Abbott’s Flatland, 2-dimensional beings living on a flat surface understand length and width but have no concept of height. Are we 3-dimensional beings oblivious to a 4th spatial dimension? How would we know?
Did a supreme intelligence create the Universe 13.77 billion years ago, give it a little shove to get it started, then walk away to let it wind down on its own? HWWK?
What if, every time somebody made a decision, the universe split into two separate timelines, identical but for the decision going one way on one timeline and the other way in the other one? HWWK?
Gravitational measurements indicate that the Universe is about 5% what we think of as normal matter and energy, 30% dark matter, and 65% dark energy. Are we physically occupying the same space with dark-matter people, passing effortlessly thru them without noticing, because their equivalent of protons, electrons, and neutrons have no way of interacting electromagnetically with ours? HWWK?
Notice that these questions are qualitatively different from ones like “What was family life like for our ancestors 200,000 years ago?” (past), “Is my perception of red the same as yours?” (present), or “Will I ever be able to self-levitate?” (future). Those are cases where we can at least imagine a line of inquiry, such as the one about “Is there a Contra-Earth in our exact same orbit, only on the far side of the Sun, where we can never see it?”. The answer to that was “Let’s invent space flight and go look.” (We did, and there isn’t.)
But for all those “HWWK?” questions, we wouldn’t even have a clue where to start looking. This drives some people nuts.
“In physics, sound is a vibration that propagates as an acoustic wave, through a transmission medium such as a gas, liquid or solid. In human physiology and psychology, sound is the reception of such waves and their perception by the brain.”— Wikipedia. So the answer to the tree question is yes … and no. “Yes” if you’re talking physics, “No” if you’re talking human physiology.
The falling tree puts waves of energy into the surroundings. It is up to us to sense and interpret them. If the tree falls on your foot you tend to come to conclusions more quickly.
If you add the words “scientific fact” to something these days, it’s pretty much the same as saying “this is a no shi77er” back in the day. Lots of conviction and lots of facts pointing to dubious conclusions.
Read a science fiction story when I was a kid. First trip to the Moon. At a certain distance from the Earth there was a crash and the astronauts looked out and saw the back of the giant stage set.
I think that it’s common for children to close their eyes and believe that if they remain shut long enough, their problems will go away when they reopen.
Amen Ra was depicted as the Sun God, and so traversed the earth every day. The ancient Egyptians thought that when the sun set it disappeared and Ra’s great nemesis Apep depicted in hieroglyphs as a snake) fought with Ra, but the outcome was always the same – the sun rose again. Ra had prevailed. Of course we all know that when the sun sets it doesn’t go away – likewise for the moon – if you don’t see it it doesn’t mean it’s not still there … don’t we?
What is in my head is often not what comes out of my mouth. What comes out of my mouth may be what goes in your ear, but is very likely not what gets to your brain.
willispate about 2 years ago
Fern’s back.
eastern.woods.metal about 2 years ago
And trees make the wind blow
I’ve been telling the grand kids that
Kveldulf about 2 years ago
If the premise is that a falling tree causes atmospheric vibrations but those are called “sound” only when they are noticed by a living being, does that being have to be human? What about a squirrel? An ant? A nematode?
Very anthropocentric.
mr_sherman Premium Member about 2 years ago
Egocentric is correct. What else are the vibrations called if there’s nothing around to sense it? The ability to sense those vibrations is called hearing.
The dude from FL Premium Member about 2 years ago
Why does it have to be heard? If a fire burns down a house and nobody sees it, did the house not burn?
Bilan about 2 years ago
If the moon disappears when you go to sleep, it stands to reason that the tides disappear also. Ergo, you can’t surf when you’re asleep.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 2 years ago
Are we living in a computer simulation like The Matrix? How would we know?
Why is there something rather than nothing? How would we know?
Was the entire world created 5 minutes ago, including each of us with all our memories intact? How would we know?
In Edwin Abbott’s Flatland, 2-dimensional beings living on a flat surface understand length and width but have no concept of height. Are we 3-dimensional beings oblivious to a 4th spatial dimension? How would we know?
Did a supreme intelligence create the Universe 13.77 billion years ago, give it a little shove to get it started, then walk away to let it wind down on its own? HWWK?
What if, every time somebody made a decision, the universe split into two separate timelines, identical but for the decision going one way on one timeline and the other way in the other one? HWWK?
Gravitational measurements indicate that the Universe is about 5% what we think of as normal matter and energy, 30% dark matter, and 65% dark energy. Are we physically occupying the same space with dark-matter people, passing effortlessly thru them without noticing, because their equivalent of protons, electrons, and neutrons have no way of interacting electromagnetically with ours? HWWK?
Notice that these questions are qualitatively different from ones like “What was family life like for our ancestors 200,000 years ago?” (past), “Is my perception of red the same as yours?” (present), or “Will I ever be able to self-levitate?” (future). Those are cases where we can at least imagine a line of inquiry, such as the one about “Is there a Contra-Earth in our exact same orbit, only on the far side of the Sun, where we can never see it?”. The answer to that was “Let’s invent space flight and go look.” (We did, and there isn’t.)
But for all those “HWWK?” questions, we wouldn’t even have a clue where to start looking. This drives some people nuts.
Cornelius Noodleman about 2 years ago
I like it when no one is in the forest to see me chop a tree down.
abba3 about 2 years ago
Wiley lives vicariously through Danae.
Can't Sleep about 2 years ago
I once stumbled across some twit on YouBoob who was giving a “lecture” explaining that the moon was just an illusion.
LeslieBark about 2 years ago
“In physics, sound is a vibration that propagates as an acoustic wave, through a transmission medium such as a gas, liquid or solid. In human physiology and psychology, sound is the reception of such waves and their perception by the brain.”— Wikipedia. So the answer to the tree question is yes … and no. “Yes” if you’re talking physics, “No” if you’re talking human physiology.
Scorpio Premium Member about 2 years ago
This, children, is where idiot flat earthers get their ideas from.
MichaelAxelFleming about 2 years ago
And the light stays on in the fridge when you shut the door.
cdward about 2 years ago
Wait Danae, means Fern disappears when you sleep, too! And you just can’t trust disappearing people.
Isenthor1978 about 2 years ago
People who question reality always ask the wrong questions.
Eric Klein about 2 years ago
No Danae, that was only when Fern goes to sleep not you.
PraiseofFolly about 2 years ago
Then it only stands to reason that the Moon revolves around HER.
descabro about 2 years ago
When reductio ad absurdams go bad….
WickWire64 about 2 years ago
I can find the answer to that question but I will have to wait and see when and if the cat comes out of that box first
sandpiper about 2 years ago
seems in egocentrism, the question might be “If a tree falls in a forest and I’m not there, does it make a sound?”
dflak about 2 years ago
If you WANT it to be true, Danae, then it IS.
William Bednar Premium Member about 2 years ago
Actually, there are some “physicists” who claim “Quantum Mechanics” demands that the Moon does disappear when you stop looking at it,
1953Baby about 2 years ago
I want the purple hair!!!!!
Redd Panda about 2 years ago
Philosophy… a great way to waste time.
I think, today, I’ll order a tee shirt, with a stupid slogan printed on the front. See who takes the bait.
goboboyd about 2 years ago
The falling tree puts waves of energy into the surroundings. It is up to us to sense and interpret them. If the tree falls on your foot you tend to come to conclusions more quickly.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member about 2 years ago
If you add the words “scientific fact” to something these days, it’s pretty much the same as saying “this is a no shi77er” back in the day. Lots of conviction and lots of facts pointing to dubious conclusions.
KFischer1 about 2 years ago
The moon can only disappear if the entire world goes to sleep at the same time. Otherwise there is always someone awake to see it.
JudyAz about 2 years ago
Kind of like the man who stayed up all night wondering where the sun went…
…until finally it dawned on him.
davidthoms1 about 2 years ago
How almost all conspiracy theories start!
Twelve Badgers in a Suit Premium Member about 2 years ago
Darn, for a few seconds I thought Danae had learnt the right lesson for once. I guess that was silly of me.
Maswartz about 2 years ago
I had a friend in high school who claimed the universe would end after his death and his proof was that we couldn’t disprove it to him.
christelisbetty about 2 years ago
Ok Danae, I will give you the Moon, if you admit the Sun, rises and sets on ME .
FGWaiss about 2 years ago
I’ve decided that solipsism does not exist…so, it doesn’t.
Calvins Brother about 2 years ago
Those aren’t stars, they’re LEDs.
paranormal about 2 years ago
And just what theory will she come up with next???
Binky about 2 years ago
¯\( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)/¯
willie_mctell about 2 years ago
Read a science fiction story when I was a kid. First trip to the Moon. At a certain distance from the Earth there was a crash and the astronauts looked out and saw the back of the giant stage set.
jimboklein about 2 years ago
If a guy is standing alone in the woods where there is no woman around to hear him and he says something, is he still wrong?
Mario500 about 2 years ago
“A-A-AND HERE WE GO…”
(senses an awkward and incongruent response in this cartoon)
kendavis09 about 2 years ago
Yeah, and days in the summer are longer and shorter in the winter cause the Earth’s rotation changes speed. It has to fit in 24 hrs.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 2 years ago
Typical Danae wanting absolute power misunderstands.
bdpoltergeist Premium Member about 2 years ago
ah, the seeds of another scheme by Danae, this could be interesting and fun
Realimaginary1 Premium Member about 2 years ago
I think that it’s common for children to close their eyes and believe that if they remain shut long enough, their problems will go away when they reopen.
bakana about 2 years ago
It’s all a matter of Perspective. And Danae has a very Unique perspective on the world.
Victor the Crab about 2 years ago
The look on Joe’s face. XD
JH&Cats about 2 years ago
Monthly lunar cycle explained by Thurber in the wonderful story, “Many Moons.”
keenanthelibrarian about 2 years ago
Amen Ra was depicted as the Sun God, and so traversed the earth every day. The ancient Egyptians thought that when the sun set it disappeared and Ra’s great nemesis Apep depicted in hieroglyphs as a snake) fought with Ra, but the outcome was always the same – the sun rose again. Ra had prevailed. Of course we all know that when the sun sets it doesn’t go away – likewise for the moon – if you don’t see it it doesn’t mean it’s not still there … don’t we?
dogday Premium Member about 2 years ago
What is in my head is often not what comes out of my mouth. What comes out of my mouth may be what goes in your ear, but is very likely not what gets to your brain.