Somethin’ happenin’ here…what it is ain’t exactly clear…it starts when you’re always afraid…step out of line, the men come, and take you away! Stop, children, what’s that sound? Everybody look! What’s goin’ down?
No, the funny question is “Are you a person who would cast your vote for president of the United States for someone who has been convicted of a felony?”
Actually could be many felonies, though I actually doubt they will manage to convict him. When you have enough lawyers (and enough suckers giving you money to buy enough lawyers), then it is really hard to get convicted. The prosecution has to be perfect and the slightest mistake will let the scumbag get away. (Not limited to the the orange puppet. Basically the main “feature” of two-tier justice.)
You have to love Florida. They started a program to reinstall voting rights for certain felons and helped those felons register to vote. DeSantis revoked that law and then had the felons arrested for voter fraud. He then proudly displayed their pictures at a press conference on how HE was fighting the scourge of voter fraud. Luckily, a Judge said “are you out of your mind” and dismissed the charges.
you know what else the founding fathers didn’t envision? free black people or a black president. i’m tired of people talking about the founding fathers like they were infallible. they were a bunch of slave owners fighting england for THEIR freedom. isn’t it ironic?
Meanwhile, the US Constitution says in Article I, Section 6, Clause 1:
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
No cartoonists seems to question that (assuming they’re even aware of it)
“A death rattle of any democracy is when a sitting president uses the state security apparatus to go after political opponents and cover up lies and crimes committed by himself or his family. Biden is doing that now.” – Tulsi Gabbard
Full disclosure: I would not vote for the individual being referenced if I were being held at gunpoint. With that said, this was most likely not an oversight but a deliberate omission by the Founders. If your claim to power is being challenged, and a felony is a bar to taking office, it would presumably not be all that difficult to engineer an arrest and conviction for some minor felony and then say “well, he/she is a felon, guess they can’t take my job even if they could win.”
Those of you who are fans of “Family Guy” – the namesake of “Buddy Cianci Junior High” is a real guy who was mayor of Providence, was forced to resign after a felony conviction, and was barred from running again for five years.
He ran again in 1990, won again, and remained mayor for another 12 years until he was convicted of another felony and forced to resign again.
He ran a third time once he was able … and nearly won.
It’s also an interesting study of how RICO works. He faced roughly 30 different charges, including a RICO charge. He was found “not guilty” of everything except the RICO charge. With that said … no one in Providence – or in the entirety of Rhode Island, for that matter – doubted that he had done everything he was accused of, but “plausible deniability” is nonetheless a thing.
Every job in the U.S. Government requires that the employee take and pass the Civil Service exam. Why don’t we require elected officials to take and pass the same exam?
Picking nits: It’s not “jailed” for a felony (which could be just arrest), but convicted. But apparently the rest (including the implication thereof) is accurate.
In Michigan, as long as you are not locked up in jail or prison (even if you’re out on probation or parole), you can vote in any election. You do have to make sure you’ve registered to vote in your district for more than 30 days for the vote to count, though.
All those who wrote and signed were white men, mostly landowning, and: According to the Gilder Lehrman Institute for American History, “about 25” delegates enslaved people, of the 55 who attended the convention’s proceedings in Philadelphia. The Constitutional Rights Foundation asserts that 17 of the 55 delegates were enslavers and together held about 1,400 enslaved people… Signers of the Constitution, published in 1976 by the National Park Service, notes that 11 other signers “owned or managed slave-operated plantations or large farms,” – Britannica
I truly doubt these men would or could have dreamed there would be a president like the * malignant narcissistic psychopath or a group called, ironically, the “Freedom Caucus” = Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, Darrell Issa, Lauren Babebert, Matt Gaetz, Malicious Talyor Greene, Gym Jordan, Scott Perry, Ronny the drunk, Chip Roy and 42 other gems. A president and his gang trying by hook or by crook, [not] by fair means but foul to overthrow our democratic republic and install a wannabe * small dictator.
Democrats must accept the GOP has morphed into a mob of power-hungry, threat-loving, violent, vitriolic magas who perceive the world and our country thru Qanon psychedelic glasses. And… to add from a friend: “feel the economic boom has passed them by” [my addition] because of wearing the Qanon psychedelic glasses.
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President, ed by Bandy Lee.
Love how the anti-Trumpers are predictably running around with their hair on fire. It’s sad how they never recovered from pinning their hopes on Michael Avenatti aka “The Holy Spririt”. It’s like they’re one comic strip away from a psychotic break.
Look, there is obvious racism, classism & even sexism in the legal system which is why felons in many, if not most, states are not allowed to vote. To be fair everyone, as long as they meet age and residence requirements should be allowed to vote AND run for office.
But if a president commits felonies while in office (or before), does that automatically negate any actions he takes afterward, while president? (Hint: No.) Hence the need to find better candidates than the ones we are currently being offered.
“Q: Can a convicted felon serve in elected office?
A: The Constitution allows a convicted felon to be a member of Congress, even if in prison. It’s up to the Senate or House to decide who may serve."
search “felons in elected office” for the article. Whether a convicted president can serve is an open question. Who votes on his fitness to serve is the issue.
I love the part where Biden is “simply persecuting his political rival.” Those folks still can’t figure out why anyone would ever want to shoot that nice guy J.R. Ewing.
Any chance we can leave politics out of this? I subscribe to enjoy the humor and artful images. Both are nearly extinct in publications. Comics are a wonderful thing and I hope they continue to be just that.
How very shameful that the American citizens must discuss whether or not a former failed president with 4 indictments + 91 charges + a conviction for sexual abuse along with a penalty of $5M to be paid to the woman…. and a second lawsuit proving the dang fool doesn’t learn, he chooses to vilify the same woman and thus is soon to be in court for the same thing. Talk about insane… Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results.
In my home country of Germany, only high treason or terrorism would justify such a curtailment of civil rights as not being able to vote – even while imprisoned – and it practically never happens
What I don’t get about that is how the legal grounds for voting are different is different states, when it is about an election of a federal office. It just doesn’t make any sense how American citizens can be more or less empowered from one state to another.
BasilBruce over 1 year ago
Don’t try to explain Trump to him; there will be no survivors.
BE THIS GUY over 1 year ago
It’s all Constitutional
C over 1 year ago
You can’t trump that
Maizing over 1 year ago
In the early 20th century, there was a man who ran for president while incarcerated.
ronaldspence over 1 year ago
Might work for the “Big Guy” too!
Erse IS better over 1 year ago
It depends on what the felony WAS.
Johnny Q Premium Member over 1 year ago
They should let all prisoners vote. (It’s such a tiny power on an individual level…)
Qiset over 1 year ago
Prevents the ones in power from using the law to stop their opponents.
The dude from FL Premium Member over 1 year ago
orange thing has not been convicted. Getting that scumbag into a trial will never happen. It has too many unpaid lawyers
einarbt over 1 year ago
Somewhere, someone is plotting for exactly his outcome. How will an imprisoned president receive foreign dignitaries? Visiting hours?
ChukLitl Premium Member over 1 year ago
I know a town where they jailed the sheriff then reelected him. “At least now we know where to find him.”
Gent over 1 year ago
Eh was not Rat the president himself sometime ago.
Robin Harwood over 1 year ago
Isn’t felonious conduct standard for US Presidents?
orinoco womble over 1 year ago
Somethin’ happenin’ here…what it is ain’t exactly clear…it starts when you’re always afraid…step out of line, the men come, and take you away! Stop, children, what’s that sound? Everybody look! What’s goin’ down?
WaitingMan over 1 year ago
There are states where it is perfectly legal to walk down the street carrying a fully loaded AR-15. KABOOM!
shanen0 over 1 year ago
No, the funny question is “Are you a person who would cast your vote for president of the United States for someone who has been convicted of a felony?”
Actually could be many felonies, though I actually doubt they will manage to convict him. When you have enough lawyers (and enough suckers giving you money to buy enough lawyers), then it is really hard to get convicted. The prosecution has to be perfect and the slightest mistake will let the scumbag get away. (Not limited to the the orange puppet. Basically the main “feature” of two-tier justice.)
[Unnamed Reader - 8bb645] over 1 year ago
When Michael Moore had his TV Nation series, he ran a convicted – but completed his time – felon named Bruno for POTUS.
waknoch over 1 year ago
No, but you can make up infractions that no one else is held to account for.
iggyman over 1 year ago
Let’s not discuss the state if things here today, hope for a change in the future, a new face, a younger face, a better face!
Imagine over 1 year ago
It is time for a younger generation to take over the reigns.
akachman Premium Member over 1 year ago
Pig: most decent people want to know the supposed logic behind this nonsense.
colddonkey over 1 year ago
Okay now name me one honest politician in Washington DC.
Ichabod Ferguson over 1 year ago
You have to love Florida. They started a program to reinstall voting rights for certain felons and helped those felons register to vote. DeSantis revoked that law and then had the felons arrested for voter fraud. He then proudly displayed their pictures at a press conference on how HE was fighting the scourge of voter fraud. Luckily, a Judge said “are you out of your mind” and dismissed the charges.
Ellis97 over 1 year ago
If you’re a crook, can you still become famous and come by honest work?
jbmlaw01 over 1 year ago
Obviously! We elected an extortionist who enriched his family in 2020,
Potamus over 1 year ago
To keep my faith in humanity, I’ll avoid reading any of the comments.
ajr58(1) over 1 year ago
@jbmlaw01 – To paraphrase Rudy Giuliani, we can show that it happened. We just don’t have any evidence.
Ignatz Premium Member over 1 year ago
Some people think that if you’re President, you can COMMIT all the felonies you want to, pardon yourself, and suffer no consequences.
Strangely enough, these same people claim to represent the “Law and Order Party.”
camelhumper over 1 year ago
you know what else the founding fathers didn’t envision? free black people or a black president. i’m tired of people talking about the founding fathers like they were infallible. they were a bunch of slave owners fighting england for THEIR freedom. isn’t it ironic?
Goat from PBS over 1 year ago
All politicians should be in jail for the numerous felonies they commit while in office.
DaBump Premium Member over 1 year ago
But since your fellow felons can’t vote for you, it’s only hypothetical.
jsimpso1 over 1 year ago
Meanwhile, the US Constitution says in Article I, Section 6, Clause 1:
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
No cartoonists seems to question that (assuming they’re even aware of it)
Count Olaf Premium Member over 1 year ago
Felons who have so far dodged conviction can also be president of the United? States.
kevinclark over 1 year ago
You can BE president only if you win the election and that’s not going to happen.
medaman15 over 1 year ago
Insane
sabiyag over 1 year ago
You can serve in Congress, too. Sadly.
VICTOR PROULX over 1 year ago
“A death rattle of any democracy is when a sitting president uses the state security apparatus to go after political opponents and cover up lies and crimes committed by himself or his family. Biden is doing that now.” – Tulsi Gabbard
zwilnik64 over 1 year ago
If you’ve been jailed for a felony, you can still vote. If you’ve been convicted, many states you are disenfranchised.
One goes to jail before you’re tried. One serves their sentence in prison.
garysmigs over 1 year ago
anyone can be falsely accused and falsely convicted and everyone should remember that, especially those supporting capital punishment!
skipper1992 over 1 year ago
Full disclosure: I would not vote for the individual being referenced if I were being held at gunpoint. With that said, this was most likely not an oversight but a deliberate omission by the Founders. If your claim to power is being challenged, and a felony is a bar to taking office, it would presumably not be all that difficult to engineer an arrest and conviction for some minor felony and then say “well, he/she is a felon, guess they can’t take my job even if they could win.”
Those of you who are fans of “Family Guy” – the namesake of “Buddy Cianci Junior High” is a real guy who was mayor of Providence, was forced to resign after a felony conviction, and was barred from running again for five years.
He ran again in 1990, won again, and remained mayor for another 12 years until he was convicted of another felony and forced to resign again.
He ran a third time once he was able … and nearly won.
It’s also an interesting study of how RICO works. He faced roughly 30 different charges, including a RICO charge. He was found “not guilty” of everything except the RICO charge. With that said … no one in Providence – or in the entirety of Rhode Island, for that matter – doubted that he had done everything he was accused of, but “plausible deniability” is nonetheless a thing.
asmbeers over 1 year ago
Taft
DarkHorseSki over 1 year ago
Protests against the deep state will be punished. One of the greatest things Trump did was to expose the deep state.
mindjob over 1 year ago
The best looking candidate wins
old_geek over 1 year ago
Watching all the desperation, the anxiety and hopes for recent events has provided much entertainment.
ShadowMaster over 1 year ago
It certainly blows
jimboklein over 1 year ago
Every job in the U.S. Government requires that the employee take and pass the Civil Service exam. Why don’t we require elected officials to take and pass the same exam?
Semolina Pilchard over 1 year ago
Picking nits: It’s not “jailed” for a felony (which could be just arrest), but convicted. But apparently the rest (including the implication thereof) is accurate.
minty_Joe over 1 year ago
In Michigan, as long as you are not locked up in jail or prison (even if you’re out on probation or parole), you can vote in any election. You do have to make sure you’ve registered to vote in your district for more than 30 days for the vote to count, though.
WCraft Premium Member over 1 year ago
Wow – Pastis is feeling ornery today!
elgrecousa Premium Member over 1 year ago
Why is this any different than all the other nonsense going on around us?
librarylady59 over 1 year ago
All those who wrote and signed were white men, mostly landowning, and: According to the Gilder Lehrman Institute for American History, “about 25” delegates enslaved people, of the 55 who attended the convention’s proceedings in Philadelphia. The Constitutional Rights Foundation asserts that 17 of the 55 delegates were enslavers and together held about 1,400 enslaved people… Signers of the Constitution, published in 1976 by the National Park Service, notes that 11 other signers “owned or managed slave-operated plantations or large farms,” – Britannica
I truly doubt these men would or could have dreamed there would be a president like the * malignant narcissistic psychopath or a group called, ironically, the “Freedom Caucus” = Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, Darrell Issa, Lauren Babebert, Matt Gaetz, Malicious Talyor Greene, Gym Jordan, Scott Perry, Ronny the drunk, Chip Roy and 42 other gems. A president and his gang trying by hook or by crook, [not] by fair means but foul to overthrow our democratic republic and install a wannabe * small dictator.
Democrats must accept the GOP has morphed into a mob of power-hungry, threat-loving, violent, vitriolic magas who perceive the world and our country thru Qanon psychedelic glasses. And… to add from a friend: “feel the economic boom has passed them by” [my addition] because of wearing the Qanon psychedelic glasses.
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President, ed by Bandy Lee.Eric S over 1 year ago
NO, actually, you CAN’T. And it WILL be proved in court.
jsimpso1 over 1 year ago
Love how the anti-Trumpers are predictably running around with their hair on fire. It’s sad how they never recovered from pinning their hopes on Michael Avenatti aka “The Holy Spririt”. It’s like they’re one comic strip away from a psychotic break.
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] over 1 year ago
Has Trump paid back everybody he cheated in Atlantic City yet?
rick92040 over 1 year ago
They never thought anyone would ever vote for a felon. A lot of people with very low standers.
justanudderpeeon over 1 year ago
The inconsistency of politics is the only consistent portion of the scheme of things…
OldLib52 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Look, there is obvious racism, classism & even sexism in the legal system which is why felons in many, if not most, states are not allowed to vote. To be fair everyone, as long as they meet age and residence requirements should be allowed to vote AND run for office.
Ray Helvy Premium Member over 1 year ago
But if a president commits felonies while in office (or before), does that automatically negate any actions he takes afterward, while president? (Hint: No.) Hence the need to find better candidates than the ones we are currently being offered.
eddi-TBH over 1 year ago
“Q: Can a convicted felon serve in elected office?
A: The Constitution allows a convicted felon to be a member of Congress, even if in prison. It’s up to the Senate or House to decide who may serve."
search “felons in elected office” for the article. Whether a convicted president can serve is an open question. Who votes on his fitness to serve is the issue.
Lord King Wazmo Premium Member over 1 year ago
I love the part where Biden is “simply persecuting his political rival.” Those folks still can’t figure out why anyone would ever want to shoot that nice guy J.R. Ewing.
Sisyphos over 1 year ago
Gee. When something blows Pig’s mind, it really, literally blows his mind!
blindavocado Premium Member over 1 year ago
I don’t think political persecutions count
M209T over 1 year ago
Any chance we can leave politics out of this? I subscribe to enjoy the humor and artful images. Both are nearly extinct in publications. Comics are a wonderful thing and I hope they continue to be just that.
sisterea over 1 year ago
Indeed
librarylady59 over 1 year ago
How very shameful that the American citizens must discuss whether or not a former failed president with 4 indictments + 91 charges + a conviction for sexual abuse along with a penalty of $5M to be paid to the woman…. and a second lawsuit proving the dang fool doesn’t learn, he chooses to vilify the same woman and thus is soon to be in court for the same thing. Talk about insane… Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results.
Otis Rufus Driftwood over 1 year ago
Something needs to change.
Swirls Before Pine over 1 year ago
I we followed the Constitution, that person would not even on the ballot.
lindz.coop Premium Member over 1 year ago
Vetting for president is simple…where you were born, where you have lived for the past 7 years, your age. Vice president is much harder.
Quinn C over 1 year ago
In my home country of Germany, only high treason or terrorism would justify such a curtailment of civil rights as not being able to vote – even while imprisoned – and it practically never happens
unfair.de over 1 year ago
The one mug should’ve been blue.
unfair.de over 1 year ago
What I don’t get about that is how the legal grounds for voting are different is different states, when it is about an election of a federal office. It just doesn’t make any sense how American citizens can be more or less empowered from one state to another.
ocastaneda4690 about 1 year ago
ba dum ksshh